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New platform for Limerick junction

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    #32
    dowlingm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Appears it has been, here are the plans http://193.178.30.68/idocswebDPSS/ViewFiles.aspx?docid=548594&format=jpeg http://193.178.30.68/idocswebDPSS/ViewFiles.aspx?docid=548598&format=jpeg

    These links are for Thurles. Oddly, the application for LJ (18600453) is marked "incomplete" with no scanned files.


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    #33
    dowlingm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    That's why the whole station should be moved north of its existing location but will never happen.
    Too long a walk to the racetrack though :D


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    #34
    Del.Monte
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    dowlingm wrote: »
    Too long a walk to the racetrack though :D

    Not to mention the "Bit & Bridle".

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    #35
    Ireland trains
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    Footbridge has been installed
    Any news on opening dare


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    #36
    Shn99
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    June according to staff there


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    #37
    Ireland trains
    Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭Ireland trains


    Was at limerick junction yesterday ans platform progressing well.
    On a side note i was very impressed with the train to heuston (coming from Cork). Fast,comfortable and on time.
    Train was packed half one with just about all seats full with people standing. First class basically empty


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    #38
    dowlingm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Global Rail Services write up
    https://www.theglobalinfrastructuregroup.com/news/global-rail-services-installing-new-platform-and-footbridge-at-limerick-junction-station/


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    #39
    Jamie2k9
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    Without looking into times in more detail, 4.8 mins savings looks a little optimistic in my opinion. Yes train will not need to slow down for 1.5-2 miles longer nor will the 15mph be applicable on approach. I am not convinced, I would have said 3-3.5 mins max.


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    #40
    Ireland trains
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    It will save around 4 minutes.
    15:00 heuston-Cork calls at Thurles, Charleville and Mallow. 3 stops, 2h, 25m.
    16:00 Heuston-Cork calls at Thurles, Limerick junction and mallow. 3 stops again but it takes 2h, 29m, an extra 4 min.
    Although some services may only have an extra 3 minutes.
    Also is there a reason why most Cork-Dublin trains take slighlty longer than trains in the other direction.
    I'd say there will be a timetable change in september to benefit from the new platform and line improvment works over the last 2 years. Maby bring average j.t. to 2h,20-25m
    06:15 express must be due a change as it has stayed 2h, 15m for 4 years even though there was line improvment works for all of those years.
    Finally that the spare MK4 set could be used as an extra service to Cork in the peak time.


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    #41
    Isambard
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    the biggest saving will be when there is disruption and trains no longer baulk each other waiting for platform access. I'd imagine this can be quite a saving.


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    #42
    thomond2006
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    Why is the footbridge positioned so far down the platform? It's not ideal for passengers who are entering and exiting the station.


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    #43
    Del.Monte
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Why is the footbridge positioned so far down the platform? It's not ideal for passengers who are entering and exiting the station.

    Surely you don't imagine that passengers were taken into consideration when planning the new platform and footbridge?

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    #44
    Isambard
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    Limerick Junction is primarily an interchange station I imagine that has influenced the footbridge position


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    #45
    Del.Monte
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    Isambard wrote: »
    Limerick Junction is primarily an interchange station I imagine that has influenced the footbridge position

    Tell that to all the passengers from Tipperary.

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    #46
    Jamie2k9
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Why is the footbridge positioned so far down the platform? It's not ideal for passengers who are entering and exiting the station.

    They would have had to close the station.


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    #47
    Isambard
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    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Tell that to all the passengers from Tipperary.

    what all of them? how long do I have?


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    #48
    thomond2006
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    They would have had to close the station.

    Really?

    Why couldn't the footbridge be placed at the other side of the platform, closer to the station entrance?


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    #49
    Ireland trains
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    The new platform is not directly parallel. Its further north(?) So the bridge has to be further up the existing platform.
    Is it due to open this month


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    #50
    Isambard
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    Ireland trains wrote: »
    The new platform is not directly parallel. Its further north(?) So the bridge has to be further up the existing platform.
    Is it due to open this month

    Yes indeed and in the most convenient place for passengers from down trains transferring to the Limerick shuttle. It's no good saving time by installing a new platform only to wait extra minutes for passengers to traipse along the up platform to get to the bay.


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    #51
    Jamie2k9
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Really?

    Why couldn't the footbridge be placed at the other side of the platform, closer to the station entrance?

    Close to the station entrance would most likely require closure of the station, platforms are narrow. You will see that some of the bay platform (plt 3) is taken out of service during the works.

    When the platform opens, I would hope that IE will ensure the Limerick shuttle operators at platform 3 i.e next to bridge and not further in like currently except when Waterford service is there.


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    #52
    tabbey
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    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Tell that to all the passengers from Tipperary.

    Most of the passengers heading to Tipperary town probably arrange a friend/ relative to pick them up from Lk Jn.

    Even walking would be just as quick for much of the town.


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    #53
    grimbergen
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    Any update on the opening date for this?

    Incidentally, did Heuston-Thurles yesterday in (I think) 63 minutes. Certainly the fastest I've known it in a long time. Is that the benefit of the upgrade works?


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    #54
    thomond2006
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    This must be opening soon?


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    #55
    Jamie2k9
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    This must be opening soon?

    I heard early/mid September at the latest but might be late August if the lifts are fitted out.


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    #56
    haulier
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    Is the new LJ platform being brought into use next weekend ?


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    #57
    dowlingm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    haulier wrote: »
    Is the new LJ platform being brought into use next weekend ?
    it seems so:
    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Dont-be-late-Departures-times-for-trains-at-some-Cork-stations-are-to-change-by-three-minutes-60f0f8da-b641-4efb-9fca-498ef68330e1-ds


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    #58
    Jamie2k9
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    Very poor from IE, up to 6 minutes and they have failed to publish notices 7 days in advance.


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    #59
    thomond2006
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    That seemed to come out of nowhere alright.


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    #60
    h.gricer
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    thomond2006 wrote: »

    Why couldn't the footbridge be placed at the other side of the platform, closer to the station entrance?
    And why couldn't the place be just left the way it was, a totally unique station that worked well for over a hundred years with 4 platforms serving 4 trains at the same time to Waterford, Limerick Cork and Dublin all on the level with no footbridges or lifts need, it has to be said, the king has no clothes, this whole project is totally daft and ridiculous and a waste of money. Constructing a windswept down platform, further across from Limerick trains, the current arrangement works perfect, step off 1 train and on to another, then my cynical goes into overdrive with this whole daft project, is there a hidden agenda, lifting all the sidings, constructing a platform that's not needed and constructing empty carparks at the south end, there's definitely no flexible for the return of rail freight at Limerick Junction in the future.
    Regards
    h.gricer


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    #61
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Very poor from IE, up to 6 minutes and they have failed to publish notices 7 days in advance.

    I hope it's only a temporary measure. Or else the net benefit of this improvement for Kerry passengers is three more minutes hanging in Mallow. :rolleyes:


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