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What was your first GNU/Linux install?

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  • #62
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    To be fair, it wasn't a printer problem, it was the scanner (it's an all in one Canon MG2940 printer/scanner). It was the old print document ->sign document ->scan document ->email document shenanigans that drives me nuts.



    xsane should be renamed insane.



    Also, patience wasn't in supply this morning, so that possibly has a bearing on how things went.


  • #63
    Worztron
    Registered Users Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    ...


    Sadly, there are many examples. I think Munich was one of the highest profile flops. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/08/linux-on-the-desktop-pioneer-munich-now-considering-a-switch-back-to-windows/


    Hi Tom. A good take on the Munich debacle by Quidsup.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • #64
    Worztron
    Registered Users Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    It's not just a case of monopoly, there are many other factors.



    (going OT here, but I think it is relevant, maybe split off into a new thread?)


    I have tried over the years to use Linux as a desktop replacement for Windows in the office, with very little success.


    It's all good and well using it in a home environment, it works well, but try using Linux on the desktop in a corporate environment. You have multiple factors to consider - legacy apps, hardware, software interoperability, file sharing and the spawn of the demon, printing. And possibly the biggest factor of all is training. You can get your desktop support staff no problem, all MS certified, but try getting any of them with experience of Linux on the desktop in a corporate environment. It's all good an well with your secure, shiny new Linux desktop, but when (not if) something goes wrong, the old reboot won't always work.



    The bottom line is, unless you are limited to web-based apps, with little or no need for esoteric exercises such as scanning and printing, legacy apps and bespoke apps then you are fine. Otherwise, Linux on the desktop in a corporate environment still isn't there yet.

    Alas, many places are walled in with proprietary software - a direct result of the M$ monopoly.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • #65
    Worztron
    Registered Users Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭Worztron


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Good points there, I never successfully printed anything using Linux and that's with a printer that has a Linux driver available!!! Never managed to map my network drive either...

    Hi CoBo55. I've always used HP printers and rarely have issues. Printers in general are the devils machine anyway. ;-)

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • #66
    Worztron
    Registered Users Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Classic case of it here at home today. :D


    I have Linux on the laptop for herself, she wanted to a bit of printing and scanning. After about an hour of fiddling and whole range of very colourful expletives I gave up, stuck a memory stick into the laptop and got her to do everything on my Windows laptop.



    Task was then completed in 5 minutes.

    The manufacturers are largely to blame for driver issues on Linux.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



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  • #67
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,987 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Buying any hardware, you need to do your homework to ensure it will do what you want and is supported by the manufacturer.


  • #68
    rayzercork
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭rayzercork


    if you want to look for linux comaptible printers check here and see if your model is listed..

    https://www.openprinting.org/printers


  • #69
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    My HP Deskjet printer is plug and play in Linux. I use Simple Scan for my scanning needs. No issues whatsoever. Maybe I'm just lucky!


  • #70
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    My HP Deskjet printer is plug and play in Linux. I use Simple Scan for my scanning needs. No issues whatsoever. Maybe I'm just lucky!

    Yeah i have a Brother printer/scanner that just works in Fedora


  • #71
    Worztron
    Registered Users Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭Worztron


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    My HP Deskjet printer is plug and play in Linux. I use Simple Scan for my scanning needs. No issues whatsoever. Maybe I'm just lucky!

    Same here.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



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  • #72
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,987 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    My HP Deskjet printer is plug and play in Linux. I use Simple Scan for my scanning needs. No issues whatsoever. Maybe I'm just lucky!

    I consider this the norm these days.


  • #73
    Manach
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,663 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    For Unix, it was a Solaris 2.5?.
    For Red/Centos, version 5.9.


  • #74
    CoBo55
    Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Buying any hardware, you need to do your homework to ensure it will do what you want and is supported by the manufacturer.

    I did, the driver is on their site (Brother) but nada from ze ole printer.


  • #75
    spannerotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭spannerotoole


    red hat 9.

    Proud Debian user now.


  • #76
    L.Jenkins
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    spannerotoole wrote: »
    red hat 9.

    Proud Debian user now.

    Mine was RH5. Long gone are the days when it wasn't a primarily commercial OS. Now I use Fedora. The only other OS I'll use is Linux Mint.


  • #77
    niallb
    Registered Users Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭niallb


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    I did, the driver is on their site (Brother) but nada from ze ole printer.

    I've been very pleased with the Brother printer drivers.
    They are 32bit, so you'll need to install 32bit compatibility libraries on any modern Linux.

    apt install libc6-i386 lib32gcc1 could be enough on Ubuntu depending on the printer model, but that's the most likely reason those drivers aren't printing.


  • #78
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,987 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    I did, the driver is on their site (Brother) but nada from ze ole printer.

    Manufacturer not providing modern support for older hardware?

    Seems to be the way the majority behave ...


  • #79
    DeconSheridan
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭DeconSheridan


    Suse Linux


  • #80
    sunbeam
    Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭sunbeam


    The now defunct Linux Mint LXDE back in 2010. I can't remember the actual version. I'm currently using Xubuntu 18.04 but will probably move back to Mint XFCE in a year or two.

    Edited to add I ran a laptop with a dead hard drive off a Knoppix cd for a while back in 2003, but never actually installed it on anything.


  • #81
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Always buy PCL6 compatible printers and you'll never have issues. Used them on every niche OS going.

    Mandrake 7 was the first distro I used but I'd used IRIX 6.5 before and also BeOS which has some operational similarities. Used to prefer Redhat/rpm based systems but now use Ubuntu LTS for anything for ease of use, or what little ease of use remains since systemd came in


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  • #82
    lardarse
    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭lardarse


    SunOS 3.5 on sun2 and sun3

    installing from 1/4 inch and QIC-150 tapes back in 89

    Used to work for sun as a hardware engineer.


  • #83
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Probably Ubuntu 12.04, although I'm really not sure anymore.


  • #84
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    lardarse wrote: »
    SunOS 3.5 on sun2 and sun3

    installing from 1/4 inch and QIC-150 tapes back in 89

    Used to work for sun as a hardware engineer.


    Respect.


    Hang on, they were proprietary! They are not GNU. :pac:


  • #85
    lardarse
    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭lardarse


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Respect.


    Hang on, they were proprietary! They are not GNU. :pac:

    Whoops sorry didn`t read the thread correctly.

    Great days working as a Sun Engineer though. Shame how the mighty have fallen, Oracle really tore the heart out of them. I`m still working on solaris on my normal day job, so still keep my hand in :)


  • #86
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    lardarse wrote: »
    Whoops sorry didn`t read the thread correctly.

    Great days working as a Sun Engineer though. Shame how the mighty have fallen, Oracle really tore the heart out of them. I`m still working on solaris on my normal day job, so still keep my hand in :)

    You lucky duck! :D


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