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Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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  • #362
    TRC10
    Registered Users Posts: 3,888 ✭✭✭TRC10


    The Byrne ultimatum. Surely


  • #363
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    World Cup 2023 draw is in the morning
    Who do people want?

    Reminder of the draw.
    1 from each band into the 4 pools
    South Africa, New Zealand, England, Wales
    Ireland, Australia, France, Japan
    Scotland, Argentina, Fiji, Italy
    Oceania 1, Europe 1, Americas 1, Asia Pacific 1
    Africa 1, Europe 2, Americas 2, Final Qualifier winner


  • #364
    awec
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    Wales, Fiji and then who cares.


  • #365
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    awec wrote: »
    Wales, Fiji and then who cares.

    At a RWC, I’d give a full strength fiji more chance than Italy.


  • #366
    sydthebeat
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    England, France and Argentina in one pool please :D


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  • #367
    bilston
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    Completely unethused by the 2023 WC at this stage.

    I know they do it far out from the WC all the time, but can anyone explain the logic behind having the WC draw.almost 3 years before the actual tournament?


  • #368
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    bilston wrote: »
    Completely unethused by the 2023 WC at this stage.

    I know they do it far out from the WC all the time, but can anyone explain the logic behind having the WC draw.almost 3 years before the actual tournament?
    Promo. So many of teams in the tournament are already qualified so they can build up the games between these sides in the next few years when they play.
    If we could get more sides competitive and open up more spots so only 8 qualified automatically then it could be better if you held draw later.


  • #369
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,335 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Promo. So many of teams in the tournament are already qualified so they can build up the games between these sides in the next few years when they play.
    If we could get more sides competitive and open up more spots so only 8 qualified automatically then it could be better if you held draw later.

    I guess it's also so they can schedule Autumn games appropriately for the next few seasons.


  • #370
    UAEguy2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭UAEguy2020


    If we could avoid an ultimatum of having either NZL or a really good inform team in a QF for a change that would be great...


  • #371
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    bilston wrote: »
    Completely unethused by the 2023 WC at this stage.

    I know they do it far out from the WC all the time, but can anyone explain the logic behind having the WC draw.almost 3 years before the actual tournament?

    They need the time to sell the tickets.


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  • #372
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,282 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Oddly I don’t think who’s in our group is as important as which group ours is paired up with for quarters. We want to avoid the strongest pot 3 teams obviously but last WC we knew we were getting a very tough quarter regardless of how the group went.
    I’d rather meet Wales in a quarter than have them in the group.


  • #373
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    salmocab wrote: »
    Oddly I don’t think who’s in our group is as important as which group ours is paired up with for quarters. We want to avoid the strongest pot 3 teams obviously but last WC we knew we were getting a very tough quarter regardless of how the group went.
    I’d rather meet Wales in a quarter than have them in the group.

    I'd rather meet Wales in the group than South Africa, New Zealand or England.


  • #374
    Leinstertomas
    Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭Leinstertomas


    Ideally we get Italy as pot 3 and are paired with a group such as Wales, Japan, Fiji.

    Worst case scenario is likely getting put with SA/New Zealand and Argentina, and being paired with group of SA/New Zealand and France.


  • #375
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,742 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    salmocab wrote: »
    Oddly I don’t think who’s in our group is as important as which group ours is paired up with for quarters. We want to avoid the strongest pot 3 teams obviously but last WC we knew we were getting a very tough quarter regardless of how the group went.
    I’d rather meet Wales in a quarter than have them in the group.

    As long as France aren't the second seeds in Wales's group!


  • #376
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,742 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Rugby World Cup Draw at 11.15 and Champions League at 11am...impeccable timing to get headlines...


  • #377
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,282 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    bilston wrote: »
    As long as France aren't the second seeds in Wales's group!

    Well no there a lot of variables but what I’m saying is better to have a big gun in the group and a quarter against say Wales than be in a group with Wales and have a quarter against South Africa.


  • #378
    ionadnapokot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Ireland have had 3 great draws in 2011, 15 and 19.
    If we get Wales and still draw Argentina I think that would be another great draw


  • #379
    Bazzo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    ionadnapokot wrote: »
    Ireland have had 3 great draws in 2011, 15 and 19.
    If we get Wales and still draw Argentina I think that would be another great draw

    I'd argue that 19 was the worst possible draw. A guaranteed quarter final against either the All Blacks or the eventual champions South Africa regardless of whatever else we did.


  • #380
    ionadnapokot
    Registered Users Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Bazzo wrote: »
    I'd argue that 19 was the worst possible draw. A guaranteed quarter final against either the All Blacks or the eventual champions South Africa regardless of whatever else we did.

    At the time of the draw it was a great draw!
    Easy group...
    Then the Erasmus plan then kicked in.


  • #381
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Best case: (Wales, Ireland, Fiji) paired with (England, Japan, Italy)

    Worst case: (New Zealand, Ireland, Argentina) paired with (South Africa, Australia, Scotland)


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  • #382
    UAEguy2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭UAEguy2020


    Knowing Ireland we will be drawn in a group where the winner/runner up will play NZL and the hosts France...you just know it, take it to the bank.


  • #383
    UAEguy2020
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    I honestly would take a group of death if it meant we avoided a scenario where the winner/runner up of the group avoided a 2019 scenario in terms of the QF.


  • #384
    CMcsporty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭CMcsporty


    I have a feeling Ireland will get England


  • #385
    bilston
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    Can we watch the draw anywhere?


  • #386
    [Deleted User]
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    bilston wrote: »
    Can we watch the draw anywhere?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faBi00OBO1M&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=WorldRugby


  • #387
    CMcsporty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭CMcsporty


    https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/pool-draw

    I think Macron is saying that England, Wales and Scotland wont be allowed play unless they agree to a level playing field


  • #388
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,742 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    CMcsporty wrote: »
    https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/2023/pool-draw

    I think Macron is saying that England, Wales and Scotland wont be allowed play unless they agree to a level playing field

    Haha


  • #389
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Start the damned draw before I piss meself!


  • #390
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,742 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Well we aren't getting Italy anyway which was the ideal 3rd seed


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  • #391
    A-Train
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    Here we go hopefully not Pool D.


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