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Weekend photos

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,317 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Where was I :)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,668 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    The Ice House in Ballina???

    ETA - having reviewed my own photos from The Ice House, I've changed my mind:D Somewhere a bit downstream from the Ice House maybe? I still think it's the Moy in Ballina.....
    fergal.b wrote: »
    Where was I :)

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,317 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    The Ice House in Ballina???

    Yep :) Lovely little spot to stay in and a stunning part of the country.






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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,317 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Today we had our Powerboat AGM floating down the Royal canal not at the speed we are used to :D but a very enjoyable trip all the same.

    We are always open to new members with all types of boats and jet skies and if you are new to your boat it's a great comfort to have a back up boats and a helping hands there if you need them till you get used to your boat, if interested you can get in contact with us here https://www.facebook.com/groups/133673356708207/ or http://powerboat.iwai.ie



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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,026 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Not a photo from the weekend but possibly one of the greatest sailing photos ever

    http://matth.du.free.fr/bato/Silk2.gif


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭Alkers


    neris wrote: »
    Not a photo from the weekend but possibly one of the greatest sailing photos ever

    http://matth.du.free.fr/bato/Silk2.gif

    Any background?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,668 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    As regards the broach picture before....

    http://sipson.me.uk/2010/08/silk-ii/

    There seems to have been a video of it at some point, but I can't find it if it still exists. I'd love to see it!

    Brilliant picture!!!



    From last Sunday's DL racing.... it was like the Med!

    (Credit for the pic to one of our crew, who manages to take great shots every week without fail!)


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,026 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Any background?

    Was cowes week in 1996 that was taken. Boat had their forehatch open and water got into the boat buried the bow and went ar5e up. Was meant to be blowing about 40knots of breeze that day. Boat was a BH41 being skippered by gordon maguire.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,897 ✭✭✭Vexorg


    The weather in Dun Laoghaire was very medlike, but the lack of wind on the downwind legs murdered us, we ended up using a code 2 hi tech head sail, as our furling headsail was slightly shredded when we arrived down the previous Sunday. It unfurled somehow over the sat night sun morning.

    Watching the other boats flying spinnakers, disappear into the distance and many of the other boats at the back of the fleet retiring around us then just as it started to feel like we were moving backwards, we decided we were going to move class next year out of the non spinnaker class. It turns out that flying a spinnaker is allowed, so we are going to spend Saturday training so we can fly a spinnaker in the race on Sunday, seeing those pictures of Silk ii leaves me a little nervous :), not that we will have those conditions.

    Would love to see the video, various discussions refers to what happened to Silk ii as a pitchpole but don't explain the term. Found it; Pitchpoling occurs when the bow buries itself in the wave ahead while the wave behind lifts the aft section up and over.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,026 ✭✭✭✭neris


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    From last Sunday's DL racing.... it was like the Med!

    (Credit for the pic to one of our crew, who manages to take great shots every week without fail!)

    Thats alot of kites we only had 4 spinnakers in howth on sunday. White sails has become to big and a cop out

    On the pitchpole youtube "figaro pitchpole" its a great video taken in the last year or two. (Found it). Theres also a great shot of a mumm with half the boat buried in a wave and the stern lifting out of the water will try find a link


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,026 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Registered Users Posts: 28,668 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    neris wrote: »
    God almighty, the suspense watching that, just waiting for it to happen :eek:

    How in God's name did the two boys stay on board!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,668 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Vexorg wrote: »
    The weather in Dun Laoghaire was very medlike, but the lack of wind on the downwind legs murdered us, we ended up using a code 2 hi tech head sail, as our furling headsail was slightly shredded when we arrived down the previous Sunday. It unfurled somehow over the sat night sun morning.

    Watching the other boats flying spinnakers, disappear into the distance and many of the other boats at the back of the fleet retiring around us then just as it started to feel like we were moving backwards, we decided we were going to move class next year out of the non spinnaker class. It turns out that flying a spinnaker is allowed, so we are going to spend Saturday training so we can fly a spinnaker in the race on Sunday, seeing those pictures of Silk ii leaves me a little nervous :), not that we will have those conditions.

    Would love to see the video, various discussions refers to what happened to Silk ii as a pitchpole but don't explain the term. Found it; Pitchpoling occurs when the bow buries itself in the wave ahead while the wave behind lifts the aft section up and over.

    Gwan gwan gwan, you know you want to, you can do it :D

    Nothing more dispiriting that seeing boats flying kites disappearing into the distance - which is why I would never race white sails! (as much as the spinny strikes fear into me a lot of the time :D)

    The first Sunday this Turkey Shoot was an exception in my experience - my memory of winter sailing in Dublin Bay is of calm, settled conditions - far more so than during the summer!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,897 ✭✭✭Vexorg


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Gwan gwan gwan, you know you want to, you can do it :D

    Nothing more dispiriting that seeing boats flying kites disappearing into the distance - which is why I would never race white sails! (as much as the spinny strikes fear into me a lot of the time :D)

    The first Sunday this Turkey Shoot was an exception in my experience - my memory of winter sailing in Dublin Bay is of calm, settled conditions - far more so than during the summer!

    Excited and nervous, decision made so its happening, just need to get the sails out if the attic, and not break the boat and we will be out there on Sunday.

    The choice of white sails was down to the fact that half the crew were non sailors, it was a gentle introduction to both sailing and racing.

    Good to know the first Sunday was not typical, at least the wind was dropping over the course of the race.

    Really looking forward to next week, although its too early to call, looks like we will be glad of the spinnaker winds looking light again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    Vexorg wrote: »
    Excited and nervous, decision made so its happening, just need to get the sails out if the attic, and not break the boat and we will be out there on Sunday.
    IMO the most common reason for having a hairy time under a spinaker is when the downhaul is not properly managed - if it is not controlled / made fast properly in a blow it can allow the outboard end of the pole to rise, thereby lifiting and changing the spinny's centre of effort which makes steering very difficult and usually leads to a broach. The most common beginner's error is to get the sheet or the guy the wrong side of the forestay. Get those right and it will be a doddle!


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,668 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    And also, as was pointed out to me by a pro we were doing training with. .... the faster you go on arun, the lower your apparent wind, the safer and more in control you are. I'm sure he was right, but hard to persuade yourself of that when careering along at about 15kts :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    And also, as was pointed out to me by a pro we were doing training with. .... the faster you go on arun, the lower your apparent wind, the safer and more in control you are. I'm sure he was right, but hard to persuade yourself of that when careering along at about 15kts :eek:

    Well and good til your inexperienced sheet trimmer ****s a brick and doesn't release on the gusts!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,026 ✭✭✭✭neris


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    And also, as was pointed out to me by a pro we were doing training with. .... the faster you go on arun, the lower your apparent wind, the safer and more in control you are. I'm sure he was right, but hard to persuade yourself of that when careering along at about 15kts :eek:

    The sailing at 15 knots and been in control is fine its the gybing or taking down part where it gets really exciting. Did a chinese gybe at 17 knots on a 38footer, all i,ll say is thank god it had a sturdy mast head rig and no runners involved and strong stanchions to hang onto while looking down at the new leward side


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,026 ✭✭✭✭neris


    IMO the most common reason for having a hairy time under a spinaker is when the downhaul is not properly managed - if it is not controlled / made fast properly in a blow it can allow the outboard end of the pole to rise, thereby lifiting and changing the spinny's centre of effort which makes steering very difficult and usually leads to a broach. The most common beginner's error is to get the sheet or the guy the wrong side of the forestay. Get those right and it will be a doddle!

    The tweaker on the guy not being on is another one which creates a nice roll leading to all sorts of out of control mishaps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    neris wrote: »
    ....... thank god it had a sturdy mast head rig and no runners involved and strong stanchions to hang onto while looking down at the new leward side
    I once had a fractional rig boat with runners. Never, ever, again. The are a nuisance, a distraction and an abomination and the person on the runners always gets under the feet of the helm. Rant over, caused by bad memories.:)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,026 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Found this on youtube from the days when men were men and masts were fickle pieces of aluminium kept up by miles of rope and rods



    some good shots of the irish boats and the old pointy mcwilliams sail logo aswell


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,026 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Should have posted these last year. Unfortunatly I didnt get a load of pics along the way as I drove most of the way down and after the alps it was boring. Might not be a boat in a few of the actual pics but I can assure there was a boat attached to the car.

    I bought a smallish sail boat down in Italy near the end of 2012 and kept it there till last June. For the trip back we took the ferry on the Monday down to cherbourg and took a pitstop along the way to pick up a trailer in France on Wednesday morning. The boat didnt come with a road trailer so I had to order one and ended up using a company in France (was 1/2 the price of an Italian company, was near Grenoble and south of Lyon) so we picked that up about on wednesday about 11am 600km away from where the boat was moored and drove over the alps into Italy. We stayed with the guy I bought the boat off.

    The boat was moored in a place called Lerici about 70km north of pisa. We had to get the boat from there to boat yard a few miles away which was a trip on the med and then up a river to the yard (a fast flowing riveR aswell). At this stage we had the dodgiest most unreliable outboard going and no wind. Engine to full throttle and she didnt conk out till we were 20 meters away from the boat yard dock thankfully.

    After a few hours of pulling the rig apart etc on the dock we were told we werent getting lifted that night and would be next morning so we headed off to the local mcdonalds drive thru only to get a call on the way out to tell us to get back to the boat yard we were getting lifted in 20 minutes. This was about 830 at night. By 1030 that night the rig was out and the boat was on the trailer. One more problem though. The support arms on the trailer had been lowered so much that they were in the ground and we couldnt move the trailer. The hack saw came out only to break after 2 strokes. There had been a guy hanging around the yard we thought was a bit of an odd ball but turned out to be the owner of another boat in the yard who gave us his angle grinder. Few minutes later and a few centimetres less of galvanised steel we were able to eat a cold mcdonalds and head back to bed.

    The next day (friday) was just a matter of tidying up the boat, getting it ready for the road , adding the odd bottle of wine or 10. By early evening we were able to get the boat out of the yard and back to the house of the previous owner. After a nice dinner with him and been given a bottle of olive oil from his own olives we hit the sack for a 7am departure to catch the ferry from France on Monday.

    The drive out of Italy was uneventful until we hit the Mont Blanc tunnel. I had been expecting it to cost somewhere in the region of €200 however as the height of the boat was over 3 meters we ended up in the tunnel down €350. (this wasnt the kind of place where you could negotiate or back up and take an easy alternative route).

    We had an uneventful rest of saturday in France and got checked in to a motorway Ibis for a few beers and a nice sleep. We headed back out Sunday up through some lovely country side(think chateau's and grapes) but by sunday after noon we,d hit the Paris outskirts and having two sat navs on the go is not recommended. We may have the accolade of being the 1st Irish yacht through Versailles. We hit a hotel outside Cherbourg that night and then Monday was just a matter of adding more wine before the ferry back to Rosslare. Back in Dublin on Tuesday afternoon and after a bit of elbow grease were on the start line for a race on Saturday afternoon.


    The trailer among the olives after its drive down from France
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    Friday morning after being lifted the night before. Yes they are jumper struts at the top. Some of us still like old Dinosaurs. The water behind is the Magra River. I bought the boat on the other side of the river in miserable weather 8 months before
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    Approaching Mt Blanc from the Italian side and at the time 350 quid richer
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    The French side after Mt Blanc. (I dont think this is the Mont Blanc glacier on the french side)
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    This looked like a nice aul pad. Use to belong to some bloke called Louis apparently, Id say he could have got a good few quid for it from an Irish developer 10 years ago ;)
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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,668 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Jaysus, The MB tunnel fairly puts the East Link/M50 tolls in perspective :eek:

    Great story, look forward to seeing you on the water again this year (and maybe on shore as well sometime :D)


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,317 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    So much better than taking a trip down to Cork to pick up boat :)
    Great story, thanks for sharing.







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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,026 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Sorry for the quality scanners not working. its a photo of a photo. Was going through old printed photos at home last night and came across this from the autumn leagues in howth in 2002 or 2003. Bit of a difference in size

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    neris wrote: »
    this is porn
    That is the stuff of legend.
    35 years ago, my father told me bedtime stories about those boats. :)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    What is the logic of having two headsails up on some of those boats?

    edit, just read some of the specs!
    S A J Class yacht is roughly 140 ft long, has a mast height of about 170ft and takes a crew of 30 to push these 150 ton yachts around the track.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Stheno wrote: »
    What is the logic of having two headsails up on some of those boats?
    Basically because they were allowed to.. more sail area = more speed. :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-class_yacht


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,026 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Lots of happy kids out in Howth this morning when they hrard racing was been cancelled for the day


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