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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Ted.

    Your coat.

    Get out.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Ted_YNWA wrote: »
    Erin Brockovich

    Erin soups?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Erin Moran. Remember her?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    New Home wrote: »
    Hedgehog?

    Correcto - you’re up NH


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    An easy one.

    Daisy is to Margaret as Heather is to...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    New Home wrote: »
    An easy one.

    Daisy is to Margaret as Heather is to...

    Camilla?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    No.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,046 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Erica

    Yay a question I know the answer to!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    You're up, looksee. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,046 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The same person was responsible for the Democrat donkey and the Republican elephant, who was it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    looksee wrote: »
    Erica

    Yay a question I know the answer to!

    What’s the context/background on this question, out of curiosity? I’m lost with it. Good to know for the future.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Both names derived from the same flowers, with different origins. From etymonline:
    daisy (n.)

    common wildflower of Europe, growing in pastures and on mountainsides and cultivated in gardens, c. 1300, daiseie, from Old English dægesege, from dæges eage "day's eye;" see day (n.) + eye (n.). So called because the petals open at dawn and close at dusk. In Medieval Latin it was solis oculus "sun's eye." The use of dais eye for "the sun" is attested from early 15c.

    Applied to similar plants in America, Australia, New Zealand. As a female proper name said to have been originally a pet form of Margaret (q.v.). Slang sense of "anything pretty, charming, or excellent" is by 1757.
    Margaret

    fem. proper name (c. 1300), from Old French Margaret (French Marguerite), from Late Latin Margarita, female name, literally "pearl," from Greek margaritēs (lithos) "pearl," which is of unknown origin.

    OED writes, "probably adopted from some Oriental language" [OED]. Beekes writes, "An oriental loanword, mostly assumed to be from Iranian" and cites Middle Persian marvarit "pearl." He adds, "The older view" derives it from Sanskrit manjari "pearl; flowering bead," "but the late and rare occurrence of both the Skt. and Greek form is no support for a direct identification." He also reports a suggested origin in Iranian *mrga-ahri-ita- "born from the shell of a bird" = "oyster."

    Arabic marjan probably is from Greek, via Syraic marganitha. In Germanic languages the word was widely perverted by folk-etymology, for example Old English meregrot, which has been altered as if it meant literally "sea-pebble." The word was used figuratively in Middle English for "that which is precious or excellent, a priceless quality or attribute." Derk margaryte was "a corrupted conscience."
    heather (n.)

    early 14c., hathir, from Old English *hæddre, Scottish or northern England dialect name for Calluna vulgaris, probably altered by heath, but real connection to that word is unlikely [Liberman, OED]. Perhaps originally Celtic. As a fem. proper name little used in U.S. before 1935, but a top-15 name for girls born there 1971-1989.
    Erica

    fem. proper name, feminine form of Eric. The plant genus is Modern Latin, from Greek ereike "tree heather," which resembles words for "heather" in Celtic and Balto-Slavic, all of which were perhaps borrowed from a common source (see brier (n.2)).


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,046 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Lol, when you read the descriptions it all seems a bit obscure and specialised, but this was one case where as soon as I saw the question I didn't have to even think about it, the answer was so obvious. Wish I could do the same with a few more! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,046 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    looksee wrote: »
    The same person was responsible for the Democrat donkey and the Republican elephant, who was it?

    Has my question got lost or does no-one know the answer?

    Bit of a clue, well known cartoonist (well I've heard of him so he must be relatively well known :D )


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    I remembered the story behind the donkey symbol, but had forgotten the name of the creator. Had to Google it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,046 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Ok, we don't seem to be getting any answers, so the person who popularised them was political cartoonist Thomas Nast, though the animals in question do seem to have been somewhat linked prior to that.

    I will come up with another question...


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,046 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    What is a Jennet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    looksee wrote: »
    What is a Jennet?

    A cross between a horse and a donkey.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    A jennet is a female donkey, AFAIK. A cross between a donkey and a horse is either a mule or a hinny, depending on which of the species the parents are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,233 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    looksee wrote: »
    What is a Jennet?

    An New Zealand woman called Janet?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,046 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    New Home has it, a Jennet is a female donkey - and also what she said about Hinnys :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    looksee wrote: »
    New Home has it, a Jennet is a female donkey.

    That's what Wikipedia says. My community in rural Ireland said differently.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,346 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Maybe a jennet is also a female hinny?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,046 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Would you go with the donkey sanctuary?
    https://www.thedonkeysanctuary.org.uk/what-we-do/knowledge-and-advice/about-donkeys

    Or Science Daily
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/hinny.htm
    tho' admittedly they quote Wikipedia :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    looksee wrote: »
    Would you go with the donkey sanctuary?
    https://www.thedonkeysanctuary.org.uk/what-we-do/knowledge-and-advice/about-donkeys

    Or Science Daily
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/hinny.htm
    tho' admittedly they quote Wikipedia :D

    Ok. I'll tell my neighbours :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,633 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    I'll check my sources at Goat-topia.
    A horse/donkey cross is a Horkey and a Donkey/horse cross is a Donse

    It must be true.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    In Donegal, we just call them all sheep.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    There seems to be a Hiberno-English issue here. Other culchies concur with me.

    And I picked this up online. It seems to be from an American of part Irish heritage:

    " No, what i meant was that the Irish call the cross a Jennet."


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,770 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Jennet would be a cross between a horse/donkey in my experience in Kerry alright


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,046 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    And midges get called midgets, and builders call lintels lentils, but however I will bow to the weight of evidence :D and ask another question...I do seem to have a gift for questions with ambiguous answers though!

    What is a Theorbo - a general idea will do, you don't have to get technical! Hint, think music.


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