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31-07-2020, 15:39   #31
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Probably right

I'm far from an expert

Do they make them as cheap as possible here?

Not in interest to keep prices high?

You hear stories of timber frames like below going up for nothing in EU countries and we paying 300k for 3 bed 100sqm block houses here

Truth in those stories?

http://www.frame-house.eu/index.php/eng/projects
That 300K includes a lot more than just the wall blocks.
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31-07-2020, 15:40   #32
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How are all the Log Cabin banjos all over the country selling these cabins to live in. ? Seems silly to allow them to sell them knowing they are not up to living spec regulations.
You can sell most things even if they are not legally allowed to be used by a person who buys it. A prime example is the electric scooters. Illegal to use on public property but it can be used on private land. So they sell them with no issues.

Very similar here you can sell them and what people do with them as they please because it is the owners responsibility.

Tons of attic conversions around the country with people sleeping in them but they are not legally habitable rooms
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31-07-2020, 15:47   #33
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Don'tregulations stop all that?

Too complex?

If we made them less complex we could build them?

Like diesel and petrol engines of today, only an auto giant like VW can afford to make diesel engines because of emission regualtions , small manufacturers have no chance
Yip, we could get rid of building regulations, planning and all that nonsense and you could knock together your own little shanty out of pallets wherever you liked.
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31-07-2020, 16:40   #34
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Good point

Does seem mad

I know of a few cabins around and they are " home offices " with no planning
Home office's and garden rooms are just sheds. Sheds are exempt from a lot of regulations. Once you live in it then it's a house, and houses have a lot of regulations to make them safe and of good quality.

You can absolutely build a timber house that meets regs, but you won't build it cheaper than block because that's what most of our builders specialise in.
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31-07-2020, 18:04   #35
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Yip, we could get rid of building regulations, planning and all that nonsense and you could knock together your own little shanty out of pallets wherever you liked.
Some are doing it

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/br...dublin/4441772
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what about mobile homes? people live in them sometimes all year around on sites, they cant be up to building regs..
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Holiday home? Pretty sure you can't live year round in Eagan's Field
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31-07-2020, 19:12   #38
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How are all the Log Cabin banjos all over the country selling these cabins to live in. ? Seems silly to allow them to sell them knowing they are not up to living spec regulations.
They are selling them as garden sheds. Nothing more, nothing less.
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31-07-2020, 19:14   #39
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If text in that ad stating
“CASH BUYERS ONLY”

Which basically means it’s illegal and complied with no standards and no mortgage can be obtained on it. Great example.
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31-07-2020, 19:27   #40
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Have been ill in hospital so have not been online for a while but thanks
This debate has been running for years here on boards

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This kind of building should be encouraged, not discouraged. As long as the spec is good and conforms to building regs I don't see the issue at all, given that people need housing and due to Covid cannot afford mad rents now.
The problem is that they don't conform with building regulations. By the time they brought one up to regulations it would be cheaper or as cheap to build it in block.
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31-07-2020, 20:28   #41
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youre pointing to a 48 sq m (517 sq ft) structure for sale at €235,000 as an example of cheap construction

thats €454 per sq ft

and you only get a 10 year warrant for that money


someone has huge windows LOL
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31-07-2020, 23:43   #42
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It's asked here regularly alie.

Have a read through the previous 1,646 posts although I'll warn you in advance, most are variations on the answers above.
Thanks so much, im kind of put off now.
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"CASH BUYERS ONLY", because a bank won't give you a mortgage on it.
"BER: Exempt", as I'm guessing it's not a house?

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Hi folks , thinking of building a log cabin or concrete shed in back garden
A concrete shed may be an option for you. But build it for dual use; a house for him now, a man shed when he moves out Do you have to go though your house to access your back garden?
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Thanks so much, im kind of put off now.
Two of my friends have done it in normal estates in Dublin. No issues at all. No planning necessary. Check with your neighbours if overlooked but chances are they won’t care. One of the log cabins my mate lives in is there for 12 years.

Never mind the boot lickers on boards. They will insist you ask the “government” for permission to fart.

Best of luck with it.
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They are selling them as garden sheds. Nothing more, nothing less.

That's not true
Shows plans of each cabin
2 bedroom
3 bedroom
bathroom
Kitchen
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