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05-02-2020, 14:38   #31
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August 2018

Developer going to Court over Kildare housing flood issues

The developer of a large new Kildare housing project has said that it has begun court proceedings over the scheme.

McGarrell Reilly said today (August 3) it has initiated judicial review proceedings against Meath County Council in respect of the Millerstown housing development in Kilcock.

A spokesperson for McGarrell Reilly said this follows “protracted discussions with the council which have failed to reach a resolution.”

The Leader understands the company is taking a different interpretation of an Bord Pleanala text to Meath County Council.

The background to the dispute is understood to concern compliance with flood risk.

The company said: “Flood works on McGarrell Reilly’s lands have been certified as complete and we have received confirmations that the Millerstown properties are protected from flood risk. Additional flood management works on third party lands outside the development, requested by the council, do not offer any additional protection to the Millerstown development.”

The spokesperson concluded: “During this process of discussion with the council, we provided caretaker agreements for purchasers to allow them to take possession of their properties until the issue is resolved.”


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Ah, yes, but many housing estates still need flood prevention works in place, especially meath and kildare because of the bogs. And considering kilcock, maynooth, leixlip, etc all have the grand canal running through them they all need measures in place.

Ledwill park is also right beside the grand canal and has flood barrows on connaught street which are there since before that estate was even thought of.

In maynooth almost every estate has flood prevention.

No problem getting insurance for millerstown, just like theres no problem getting insurance for meadowbrook in maynooth - because the OPW has put preventions in place.
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Where did you hear that about the flood works?
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05-02-2020, 14:48   #32
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August 2018

Developer going to Court over Kildare housing flood issues

The developer of a large new Kildare housing project has said that it has begun court proceedings over the scheme.

McGarrell Reilly said today (August 3) it has initiated judicial review proceedings against Meath County Council in respect of the Millerstown housing development in Kilcock.

A spokesperson for McGarrell Reilly said this follows “protracted discussions with the council which have failed to reach a resolution.”

The Leader understands the company is taking a different interpretation of an Bord Pleanala text to Meath County Council.

The background to the dispute is understood to concern compliance with flood risk.

The company said: “Flood works on McGarrell Reilly’s lands have been certified as complete and we have received confirmations that the Millerstown properties are protected from flood risk. Additional flood management works on third party lands outside the development, requested by the council, do not offer any additional protection to the Millerstown development.”

The spokesperson concluded: “During this process of discussion with the council, we provided caretaker agreements for purchasers to allow them to take possession of their properties until the issue is resolved.”
Thank you for that, I think that article was behind a paywall when I tried to go onto it previously.

I would still be satisfied personally that the estate has had enough flood protections, we can argue until the cows come home as everyone has their own opinions on what they will and will not accept, I'm just thrilled to be in my 20s and purchased our first home in an area I'd thought we'd never be able to afford! Especially during a housing crises!

Happy to call kilcock my new home!
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Welcome to Kilcock none the less and congrats on the house too :-)

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Thank you for that, I think that article was behind a paywall when I tried to go onto it previously.

I would still be satisfied personally that the estate has had enough flood protections, we can argue until the cows come home as everyone has their own opinions on what they will and will not accept, I'm just thrilled to be in my 20s and purchased our first home in an area I'd thought we'd never be able to afford! Especially during a housing crises!

Happy to call kilcock my new home!

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Welcome to Kilcock none the less and congrats on the house too :-)
Thank you!
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Where did you hear that about the flood works?
It's before the courts. He says it isn't his problem anymore an maybe he's right.
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There are tonnes of Maynoothians in Millerstown obviously they've grown up seeing flood prevention working and aren't phased by it.



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I'm from maynooth too, my parents bought back in the late 80s and can remember the flooding around meadowbrook (Ive been unfortunately ousted out of buying in Maynooth) millerstown gets quite boggy when it rains heavily - quite boggy, but whatever works the developer did seem to do the job as the houses are elevated over the flood Barrow.
They seem to be elevating the estate up and up, the insurers didnt have any issue with giving us insurance, I advised of previous flooding but they were satisfied with the works carried out and we have flood cover.

Maybe it was different a while back, I reckon the estate had to prove itself. I can check with my parents but I think meadowbrook had the same issues.

Royal canal/grand canal, always getting those two mixed up!
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Thank you for that, I think that article was behind a paywall when I tried to go onto it previously.

I would still be satisfied personally that the estate has had enough flood protections, we can argue until the cows come home as everyone has their own opinions on what they will and will not accept, I'm just thrilled to be in my 20s and purchased our first home in an area I'd thought we'd never be able to afford! Especially during a housing crises!

Happy to call kilcock my new home!

Kilcock is a great place to live and the build quality in Millerstown is top class.
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There are tonnes of Maynoothians in Millerstown obviously they've grown up seeing flood prevention working and aren't phased by it.
I’m shocked at the amount of maynoothians that are here, and so many “oh so and so lives there” from people I know!
I think it’s because most of us can not afford Maynooth it’s insanity! And no thanks on that traffic
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The bogs are no where near the towns of Maynooth or Kilcock. The bogs are in donadea and the surrounding areas.

Secondly its the royal canal that flows through Kilcock, Maynoooth and Leixlip and this has never flooded in any of these towns from my memory. The grand canal goes through sallins, robertstown etc. Ledwill is beside the royal canal but is on a much higher gradient and also the royal canal has never flooded. Where as the rye river has.

I had a deposit down on a house in Millerstown and there were issues with insurance hence the delay in residents moving in. Further work was carried out by the developer.

Im from Maynooth the only place where I have seen flooding is meadowbrook which was built over 20years ago. Its not up the OPW to install flood preventions. Its the developer who looks after this.
The reason for the hold up was NOTHING TO DO with insurance
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Thank you for that, I think that article was behind a paywall when I tried to go onto it previously.

I would still be satisfied personally that the estate has had enough flood protections, we can argue until the cows come home as everyone has their own opinions on what they will and will not accept, I'm just thrilled to be in my 20s and purchased our first home in an area I'd thought we'd never be able to afford! Especially during a housing crises!

Happy to call kilcock my new home!
That article was referring to the original floodworks which were carried out by Sean Reilly. They were arguing that the additional upstream works didn’t need to be completed BEFORE signing off the estate. That was the argument. Not that they were refusing to do flood works.
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It's before the courts. He says it isn't his problem anymore an maybe he's right.
It’s not before the courts. The matter has been closed and all applicable works completed by the developer.
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Hi everyone,

New user here so forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong place.

Due to move into Millerstown soon but can't draw down until we get our home insurance including flood cover which is proving difficult. We have friends in the estate who moved in with flood insurance but unfortunately, we haven't been able to get it. We're at the back of the estate.
Can anyone advise on which insurance companies to try?

Thanks in advance!
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Hi everyone,

New user here so forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong place.

Due to move into Millerstown soon but can't draw down until we get our home insurance including flood cover which is proving difficult. We have friends in the estate who moved in with flood insurance but unfortunately, we haven't been able to get it. We're at the back of the estate.
Can anyone advise on which insurance companies to try?

Thanks in advance!
Got ours with aviva with flood cover no problem, we went through a broker
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Just wanted to note that no nosey neighbours have posted anything in months.

Just putting this here as a little benchmark.

Looking forward to welcoming you all back during rainy season again :-)

Also looking forward to really heavy rainfall to prove that the estate is still as safe as it always was and as it was designed to be ;-)
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You're only feeding into it by posting stuff like that.

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Just wanted to note that no nosey neighbours have posted anything in months.

Just putting this here as a little benchmark.

Looking forward to welcoming you all back during rainy season again :-)

Also looking forward to really heavy rainfall to prove that the estate is still as safe as it always was and as it was designed to be ;-)
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Quick question folks, when people moved in, did you have to get an engineer out to hook up broadband?
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