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Husky mauls child

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭ppink


    Hooked wrote: »
    The Sun running with "second" attack from this breed! THE LAST ATTACK AND TITLE OF THIS THREAD IS INCORRECT. As is Frank's quote by the paper.

    .

    His quote in the independent is incorrect?

    It is kind of hard ot know with newspapers and I dont read red tops but then again they all seem to be looking for devil dog stories at times!


  • Registered Users Posts: 746 ✭✭✭calfmuscle


    Young children should never be left alone with dogs. Ever.

    I wonder if the ISPCA should look at introducing some kind of information pack to give to dog owners when they buy their license.

    I hope the children are recovering well!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    second attack by "this breed" - he doesn't have a clue about dogs. Did he send away corn flakes tokens to get that job?

    its a shame another child was hurt and another dog has been put down.

    there may be an up side in that unlearned people without the proper facilities will stop buying these "types" of dogs


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,821 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    calfmuscle wrote: »
    I wonder if the ISPCA should look at introducing some kind of information pack to give to dog owners when they buy their license.

    A huge number of owners never buy a license & even if they did, many wouldn't read or follow advice.

    The ISPCA need to focus on responsible ownership & determining the real reason for an attack rather than the easy cop out of blaming the dog.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Hooked


    ppink wrote: »
    His quote in the independent is incorrect?

    It is kind of hard ot know with newspapers and I dont read red tops but then again they all seem to be looking for devil dog stories at times!

    His quote in todays Sun is incorrect! It's been edited by a mod so I assume I'm not allowed quote it. Apologies Mods.

    I feel really strongly on this everyone. I've had comments and people crossing the road after the Limerick attack (not helped by the fact I live in the city). My dog is loved, exercised, trained and cared for by myself and my partner.

    He's a lot of work at times. Out every day at 7am, trained at lunch daily, out again every evening at 6. We cover almost a marathon a week with him. EACH! We love the breed and the rewards of owning such a well trained, well behaved dog. This is not about the attack on the child reported today. My heart goes out to the kid and the family.

    This is about accurate reporting on the breed. And what's involved in owning and caring for such a high energy dog. Nail on the head Discodog...

    The ISPCA need to focus on responsible ownership & determining the real reason for an attack rather than the easy cop out of blaming the dog.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,821 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Hooked wrote: »
    I feel really strongly on this everyone. I've had comments and people crossing the road after the Limerick attack (not helped by the fact I live in the city). My dog is loved, exercised, trained and cared for by myself and my partner.
    .

    Then get your voice heard. Contact Morning Focus at Clare FM before Tues am & make your point to Coote.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I am still waiting to hear about the injury's sustained by the first child. Normally when there is a dog attack you hear what exactly happened. Was it bumps bruises and scrapes ? ?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Discodog wrote: »
    Then get your voice heard. Contact Morning Focus at Clare FM before Tues am & make your point to Coote.

    I would if i could get time. I am first going to make a complaint to the ISPCA about frank coote mixing up his breeds. He is a dog warden, all he has to do is know about breeds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,429 ✭✭✭✭star-pants


    Just a note guys, we cannot quote articles etc. you can however provide a link to an online source.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭Hooked


    star-pants wrote: »
    Just a note guys, we cannot quote articles etc. you can however provide a link to an online source.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/irishsun/irishsunnews/4273622/Second-kid-is-mauled-by-vicious-husky.html

    The first child (in Limerick) was not attacked by a Siberian Husky. The papers and the dog warden need to brush up on their breed info.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Kash


    Discodog wrote: »
    A huge number of owners never buy a license & even if they did, many wouldn't read or follow advice.

    The ISPCA need to focus on responsible ownership & determining the real reason for an attack rather than the easy cop out of blaming the dog.

    This is so true!

    And there is so much that could be done to educate the public on responsible dog ownership - and it wouldn't have to be difficult, or boring, or expensive. Why not put training tips on the dog treat bags? Include a free doggy pedometer with the dog food? Or even an indication of how far they should be walked based on their weight/breed etc? It might not make people do it, but at least it would increase public awareness that a dog needs stimulation and exercise. They could get the dog food companies to sponsor it.

    And that is without ever going into a proper national campaign to educate dog owners in a similar way to the public info ads they do for BBQs in the Summer etc. They could even use the dog license money to pay for it?

    Instead we get fear mongering and wardens who can't tell their arse from their elbow. Grrr.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭BunShopVoyeur


    60 stitches.


  • Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭Smeefa


    I dont have any experience of working Sled dogs and I do firmly believe that bad behavior is a result of an under stimulated badly trained dog, but I was wondering if there has been any reported cases of Rage Syndrome in this line of genetics?

    It popped into my head when I saw the second case, I know the odds are minuscule but i thought I'd just put it out there. The fact that the two incidents are so geographically close, I think both reports said that the dogs had never previously been agressive and we dont even know for certain what exact breeds the dogs were, could there be a chance that they are from the same line of badly bred "wolfy lookin" dogs?

    I mean the amount of "Husky types" on sale around Ireland at the moment, and the high rate of genetically passed diseases present in the breed, I wouldn't be surprised if the amount of inbreeding here has severely affected the breed psychologically?


    But then again, it's probably just the same sad outcome that I and a lot of people were expecting:
    High energy, high intelligence dog minus adequate exercise and stimulation = horror stories for everyone involved.
    Except for the tabloids.
    They love this shít.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/hero-neighbour-rescues-toddler-as-pet-dog-goes-beserk-3072116.html

    God im shoocked I have a 6 year old samoyed husky myself.
    Anyone know are they on the dangerous dogs list?

    As said before, no such thing as a dangerous dogs list. But surely if you own the animal, you should know this...:rolleyes:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In relation to the attacks that occurred recently, it breaks my heart to read these stories for a couple of reasons.

    1) The press just make an absolute boll*x of the facts, they spout utter garbage and use ridiculous images to illustrate their points.

    2) It's the owners fault. All of it is the owners fault. If you own the dog, you're responsible for that dog, you shouldn't be leaving a dog with a kid ever.

    I've an 8 month old American Akita (but everyone in Ireland just says "what an amazing looking husky you have"), I was interviewed for over 2 hours by the breeder (in the UK) about why I wanted an Akita and what my intentions were. The reason I went to the UK was because there were not enough good breeders (barely count them on one hand) in Ireland with available pups whom I'd trust buying a dog from. So now I am fortunate enough to have an unbelievable dog with a great temperament but I'll tell you what, I'll never leave him alone with a kid or even someone he doesn't know because I'm responsible for anything he may do and I don't want to end up in court, and I don't want him destroyed.

    My point is this; If owners were responsible, this wouldn't happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭chris_ie


    Its all a bit ridiculous. Its an awful thing to happen and I feel for anyone that it happens to but to react and treat all breeds that attack someone as vicious blood thirsty animals is ridiculous. Plenty cases of human on human crime, should all we all just stay in doors away from each other?

    Dont own a dog yet myself, maybe some point in the future, but we have 2 cats. I'd even make sure that I was there if small kids were around the cats!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    Suppose every attack by a husky or husky type looking dog will be reported now with the same hysteria in the red top rags. Wonder should we all start sending in our stories now, a husky looked at me the wrong way other day and stuck his middle finger up at me behind his owners back, what a disgrace he should be put down.

    No ill respect meant for the kids who were attacked, don't like to hear of anyone attacked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭ducksmalone


    I heard the interview with the parent of the poor child,i was driving and had to pull over as i was shocked at the interview,my heart goes out to the poor girl and her family:(

    Lets mention some of what is quoted in the article.....

    Deep teeth wounds to head and upper body

    She has up to 60 stitches in the back of her head and under her arm and behind her ear," Mr O'Donoghue said

    I recall in his Radio interview,the Dad saying,he had seen a pig killed before but on this occasion he had never seen the quantity of blood anywhere,thats roughly what he said.:(

    so for the people who wanted to phone and encouraged others to phone clarefm to defend the breed and to the people who thanked posts....... im not sure what i think of you,and to the people who are attacking the Warden........ words fail me,seriously,they do:(
    TALK ABOUT POOR TIMING:rolleyes: what do you think the parent of the child would say to you if you met him face to face when you defend the breed vs the injuries his daughter suffered? serious question,well?

    i guess you guys are more about preserving the nature and breed of the dog rather than concerning yourselves with the real issue,which is,the utter devastation,hurt and heartbreak this dog has the potential to cause to a child or human being.:(

    i really do hope lessons are learned from this,i really do.

    signed,
    a sad poster:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    I think I'll send the papers a story about a perfectly trained, well-behaved husky that is of no danger to anyone.

    Fuck it, I'll just send them in The Philosopher And The Wolf. Even a wolf can be taught to behave perfectly to heel in public with the right training.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭ducksmalone


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    I think I'll send the papers a story about a perfectly trained, well-behaved husky that is of no danger to anyone.

    Fuck it, I'll just send them in The Philosopher And The Wolf. Even a wolf can be taught to behave perfectly to heel in public with the right training.
    yeah you do that Joe,send it to the father of the mauled child,it might not go down well but hey,you will have got your message accross what ever that is:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    TALK ABOUT POOR TIMING:rolleyes: what do you think the parent of the child would say to you if you met him face to face when you defend the breed vs the injuries his daughter suffered? serious question,well?

    Nobody is doubting the seriousness of the injuries, and nobody in their right mind would have anything but serious sympathy and concern for the poor children in these cases. But it is not the breed that attacked, it is two individual dogs. It is, in the majority of cases, the fault of the owners that these dogs are not sufficiently excersized and trained, not to mention supervised.

    The problem with these dogs is that people see them as highly attractive to look at, a status symbol if you will, and pay little or no attention to what goes along with owning them. You can't simply buy a husky and keep it in the garden or around the house, what is the point of it anyway?

    That said, I don't want to keep speculating because I don't know anything about the two dogs or families in this case, and they are going through enough as it is. But to criticise an entire breed of dog for this is every bit as bad.
    i guess you guys are more about preserving the nature and breed of the dog rather than concerning yourselves

    Balance and the truth is all most people are after here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭chris_ie


    what do you think the parent of the child would say to you if you met him face to face when you defend the breed vs the injuries his daughter suffered? serious question,well?

    This is pretty much what I mentioned above, and many others have. There is no doubt it was a horrible thing to happen and no-one in here thinks otherwise or is trying to blame the child. But you're pretty much saying that all Husky's are like that. When that is not the case. As I said, humans kill humans, does that mean you are the same as a murderer?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    yeah you do that Joe,send it to the father of the mauled child,it might not go down well but hey,you will have got your message accross what ever that is:rolleyes:

    I'd send it to the owner of the dogs and every other dog owner in Ireland if I could afford it, but I feel it may be too late. The problem is people don't research these things before diving in and getting the dogs.

    Out of interest, what would you like to happen to all other Huskies, Malamutes, Akita's etc in the country?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    so for the people who wanted to phone and encouraged others to phone clarefm to defend the breed and to the people who thanked posts....... im not sure what i think of you
    I have to say, neither do I! I mean I don't know what to make about educated people who would reserve judgement against a whole breed of animal due to the actions of one. What kind of person does that? Honestly??

    Take people: I know of an Irish chap who actually killed someone. Not injured. Not maimed. Killed! How can anyone defend Irish people after that? They are violent, brutal killers. It's in their DNA. It's there nature. You can't change that.


    /end sarcasm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    I heard the interview with the parent of the poor child,i was driving and had to pull over as i was shocked at the interview,my heart goes out to the poor girl and her family:(

    Lets mention some of what is quoted in the article.....

    Deep teeth wounds to head and upper body

    She has up to 60 stitches in the back of her head and under her arm and behind her ear," Mr O'Donoghue said

    I recall in his Radio interview,the Dad saying,he had seen a pig killed before but on this occasion he had never seen the quantity of blood anywhere,thats roughly what he said.:(

    so for the people who wanted to phone and encouraged others to phone clarefm to defend the breed and to the people who thanked posts....... im not sure what i think of you,and to the people who are attacking the Warden........ words fail me,seriously,they do:(
    TALK ABOUT POOR TIMING:rolleyes: what do you think the parent of the child would say to you if you met him face to face when you defend the breed vs the injuries his daughter suffered? serious question,well?

    i guess you guys are more about preserving the nature and breed of the dog rather than concerning yourselves with the real issue,which is,the utter devastation,hurt and heartbreak this dog has the potential to cause to a child or human being.:(

    i really do hope lessons are learned from this,i really do.

    signed,
    a sad poster:(

    Nobody here wants to see a child attacked. What would you like to happen all huskys all over Ireland put down? What about other breeds that happen to look a bit like Siberian huskys should we put those down too? What happens when all the huskies are gone and a Labrador attacks and maims a child we'l put those down too. And keep on going until we have no dogs in Ireland because ALL breeds are able to attack, yes larger breeds are physically able to do more damage but I'd bet a jack russell sized dog could still do a fair amount of damage to a small child.

    There was a poll done on here maybe a year or two ago, I'm not going to bother looking for it but I remember the basic outcome of it, that people who were attacked by dogs were not just attacked by the usual breeds that get the blame (Rottweilers, dobermans, pit bulls, staffies etc..) they were attacked by Labradors, collies, jack Russell's, westies and golden retrievers. It shows that any breed of dog is capable of attacking and doing damage, but nobody's interested in hearing of golden retrievers attacking, it doesn't sell papers, 'demon husky violently turning' along with a photo of a husky with a blue eye sells papers. We still don't even know were both dogs even Siberian huskys, think it was reported that the first one was a malamute.

    These sort of attacks will never stop until people stop blaming the dog 'turning' and start looking at whte real reason why this happened. How was the dog treated, was it healthy (the first attack in limerick it was reported that the dog had an untreated ear infection), how often was it exercised, where was it housed and how much interaction had it with the family, was it a reputable breeder the dog came from and what sort of an upbringing had it, was it sufficiently socialised as a pup. But it's much easier to say the dog 'turned' sadly and immediately destroy it, the dogs are dead now so nobody will ever know why they attacked so they'l never learn.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 6,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    Discodog wrote: »
    Meanwhile the Pounds & rescues can expect an influx of "Huskies" so basically anything with pointed ears.

    I've had a Sheltie pup in my house for 4 days and have already been asked twice if he's a husky, he hasn't even left the house yet!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭ducksmalone


    I've had a Sheltie pup in my house for 4 days and have already been asked twice if he's a husky, he hasn't even left the house yet!
    so? whats the point? that the 2 people you met didnt know what breed of pup you had?

    to be frank with you,your watering the issue here and this post adds nothing to the issue being discussed here.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 6,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cherry Blossom


    i guess you guys are more about preserving the nature and breed of the dog rather than concerning yourselves with the real issue,which is,the utter devastation,hurt and heartbreak this dog has the potential to cause to a child or human being.:(

    i really do hope lessons are learned from this,i really do.

    Every single dog in existance no matter what it's breed or intended purpose will become frustrated and mentally unstable if it's needs are not met, name any breed and I'll find you a news story where one has mauled a child. Actually to save me the trouble just type *breed* mauls child into google.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    to be frank with you,your watering the issue here and this post adds nothing to the issue being discussed here.

    Snap.

    And you've yet to reply to the responses to your posts above...


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