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FBI Thwarted another assassination plot - this time against Joe Biden

  • 23-10-2020 12:23am
    #1
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,593 ✭✭✭✭


    https://www.tmz.com/2020/10/22/joe-biden-targeted-assassination-plot-north-carolina-man-guns-explosives/?fbclid=IwAR2jbjZqj1BwcqYXn8XY-zi3iEj4A2sb_Y7Wfa-78sz_g_veS-YyPE-pefU

    This is coming out now because the FBI is trying to keep the suspect locked up ahead of trial for child pornography charges. In the appeal the FBI said the man (in addition to the child pornography) made significant preparations to assassinate Joe Biden as well as carry out a mass shooting at a shopping mall food court on Black Friday or Christmas Day.
    in docs, obtained by TMZ, the feds say back in May they found Treisman's van filled with guns and explosives ... from an AR-15 style rifle and a Taurus .380 caliber handgun to a canister of the explosive material Tannerite. What's more ... the feds say Treisman had $509k in U.S. currency, books about survival and bomb-making and drawings of swastikas and planes crashing into buildings.

    The feds also say they uncovered driver's licenses from 3 different states. According to docs ... Treisman's Internet searches between March and May 2020 also included information about Biden's home address and night-vision goggles, among other things.

    This is actually the 2nd assassination plot thwarted by the FBI this year alone against Joe Biden. A Maryland man was also arrested for plotting to kidnap, beat, and sodomize Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on National TV

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/maryland-man-arrested-over-plot-to-kidnap-beat-sodomize-and-joe-biden-and-kamala-harris-on-national-tv/

    But I suppose we will never know what their politics were will we :rolleyes:


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  • #2
    RWCNT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Overheal wrote: »
    But I suppose we will never know what their politics were will we :rolleyes:

    BLM/Antifa no doubt.


  • #3
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,122 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    the scary part is that the tannerite was purchased legally.


  • #4
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    There are good people on both sides












    (But seriously, how mental do you have to be to think that you would be able to pull off kidnapping and sodomizing and executing a presidential candidate and his running mate live on national TV!)


  • #5
    Urquell
    Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭Urquell


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    kidnapping and sodomizing and executing a presidential candidate and his running mate live on national TV

    Not going to lie ... if that was Pay-per-view, Id sign right up.


  • #6
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Urquell wrote: »
    Not going to lie ... if that was Pay-per-view, Id sign right up.

    See a counsellor.


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  • #7
    RWCNT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    spook_cook wrote: »
    Like the guy who made a terrorist attack on an ICE centre last year, or the mass shooting attempted assasination of multiple GOP politicians in 2017, I fail to see what your point is.

    Plots of terror come from all political sides and none. That you're attempting to make hay on yours is pretty funny.

    But let me guess, it's only people with different politics to you who are violent. Right? Funny that.

    Yes, but strands of extreme right wing ideology are responsible for a large majority of domestic terrorism in the states. The data supports this - https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states.


  • #8
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Aw a tmz the real source of news you can trust ……


  • #9
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,122 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    Aw a tmz the real source of news you can trust ……

    would you prefer Fox News? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/man-arrested-in-north-carolina-had-van-full-of-guns-explosives-planned-to-assassinate-joe-biden-report


  • #10
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Urquell wrote: »
    Donald Trump wrote:
    kidnapping and sodomizing and executing a presidential candidate and his running mate live on national TV!
    Not going to lie ... if that was Pay-per-view, Id sign right up.


    I don't think I'd go that far.......but I can tell you that some of them would be quite happy to chip in to pay to be pissed on live on TV by hookers in a Moscow hotel


  • #11
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,023 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    See a counsellor.




    Ah leave the poor fella alone. If he'd want to pay to see any form of sexytime with DT then who are you to judge him! :pac:


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  • #12
    RWCNT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    spook_cook wrote: »
    Cool, in this context nothing after a "but" is usually worth reading so I'll leave it there.

    :D:D

    In other words, I'm telling you something you don't want to hear so you're sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "La, la, la".

    Really odd behaviour to jump into a thread about what appears to be a far right terrorist to pull some "whataboutery" to deflect from the terrorist's political motivations, and now you don't want to hear about any evidence of these positions being associated with the majority of domestic terrorism in the country in question. Seems as though you have some sympathies with those positions.


  • #13
    CtevenSrowder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    Overheal wrote: »
    https://www.tmz.com/2020/10/22/joe-biden-targeted-assassination-plot-north-carolina-man-guns-explosives/?fbclid=IwAR2jbjZqj1BwcqYXn8XY-zi3iEj4A2sb_Y7Wfa-78sz_g_veS-YyPE-pefU

    This is coming out now because the FBI is trying to keep the suspect locked up ahead of trial for child pornography charges. In the appeal the FBI said the man (in addition to the child pornography) made significant preparations to assassinate Joe Biden as well as carry out a mass shooting at a shopping mall food court on Black Friday or Christmas Day.



    This is actually the 2nd assassination plot thwarted by the FBI this year alone against Joe Biden. A Maryland man was also arrested for plotting to kidnap, beat, and sodomize Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on National TV

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/maryland-man-arrested-over-plot-to-kidnap-beat-sodomize-and-joe-biden-and-kamala-harris-on-national-tv/

    But I suppose we will never know what their politics were will we :rolleyes:

    Well the last thread you started about kidnapping, the people's politics seemed more aligned with anti-fa, or anarchy, then what you were initially hoping for. Maybe this time these terrorists will be more to your liking: white and right-wing.


  • #14
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    spook_cook wrote: »
    Plots of terror come from all political sides and none. That you're attempting to make hay on yours is pretty funny.

    But let me guess, it's only people with different politics to you who are violent. Right? Funny that.

    Reminds of this tweet:

    https://twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/1230573658768379910


  • #15
    RWCNT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


      spook_cook wrote: »
      I guess making up stuff in your head is a fun activity.

      You tell me then. There's clearly something motivating your need to chip in and bring up corresponding violence motivated by another political position, and refusing to engage with evidence that the opposite position is responsible for the majority of domestic terrorism in the country being discussed. What is that?

      CtevenSrowder wrote: »
      Well the last thread you started about kidnapping, the people's politics seemed more aligned with anti-fa, or anarchy, then what you were initially hoping for. Maybe this time these terrorists will be more to your liking: white and right-wing.

      No, they also appeared to be a far right group. Being anti-police or anti-government isn't exclusive to "anti-fa". There are far right groups like the Boogaloo Bois (laugh every time I see that name) that consider themselves anarchists in an extreme libertarian sense. The accused ring-leader Adam Fox's boss described him as "anti-police, anti-government. He was afraid if he didn’t stand up for the Second Amendment and his rights that the country is going to go communism and socialism".


    • #16
      excludedbin
      Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭excludedbin


      Gotta love Boards where right wingers can do no wrong and left wingers can do no right.
      spook_cook wrote: »
      Sorry for pointing out the terrorism on the other political side.
      Good because it's not relevant to the subject of this thread and people like you only bring it up because you just can't condemn right wing violence without mealy-mouthed equivocations.

      No, don't start mewling about "people like you", you know damn well what I mean by it.
      a loon acting on his own mad theories
      Except they're not just "his own", are they? They're mad theories that're shared with gusto in right wing circles online; on this very bloody site even. Or, to use a more accurate term, right wing terrorists are being radicalised online in right wing echo chambers.

      Islamist terrorism is proof positive that all Muslims are slavering maniacs but every single instance of right wing terror (never mind that Islamism is a conservative ideology...) has to be taken in isolation. They're all lone wolves with mental problems because right wingers can never, ever be expected to take some goddamn responsibility for the violence their ideology breeds.


    • #17
      fly_agaric
      Registered Users Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


      spook_cook wrote: »
      Should a loon acting on his own mad theories...

      Have to say I loled. That is often a muslim response to acts of violence by Islamic extremists, just isolated loonies acting on their own madness ah well! Nothing to do with some underlying issues in our religion. It is fairly bogus & a response that is often derided by the right/conservatives in the US or UK but I suppose a handy one to pull out of the bag in extremis.


    • #18
      CtevenSrowder
      Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


      RWCNT wrote: »

        No, they also appeared to be a far right group. Being anti-police or anti-government isn't exclusive to "anti-fa". There are far right groups like the Boogaloo Bois (laugh every time I see that name) that consider themselves anarchists in an extreme libertarian sense. The accused ring-leader Adam Fox's boss described him as "anti-police, anti-government. He was afraid if he didn’t stand up for the Second Amendment and his rights that the country is going to go communism and socialism".

        If they are 'anarchists in an extreme libertarian sense' then they aren't right-wing, whether that be far-right or not.


      • #19
        randd1
        Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭randd1


        Donald Trump wrote: »
        (But seriously, how mental do you have to be to think that you would be able to pull off kidnapping and sodomizing and executing a presidential candidate and his running mate live on national TV!)

        I suspect, though I have no actual proof, that abiding by a rational reality is not that persons strongest attribute.

        That being said, what is scary is that he would have been able to make the plans, get the equipment and tried to carry them out had he not been found out.

        What's even scarier is that their would be plenty in the US willing to make excuses for him, or actually cheer him on, had he gotten to the point of trying.


      • #20
        CtevenSrowder
        Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


        randd1 wrote: »
        I suspect, though I have no actual proof, that abiding by a rational reality is not that persons strongest attribute.

        That being said, what is scary is that he would have been able to make the plans, get the equipment and tried to carry them out had he not been found out.

        What's even scarier is that their would be plenty in the US willing to make excuses for him, or actually cheer him on, had he gotten to the point of trying.

        You think a guy shooting up a shopping centre on Christmas day would've had 'plenty' of people cheering him on? I think you are talking nonsense.


      • #21
        RWCNT
        Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


        CtevenSrowder wrote: »
        If they are 'anarchists in an extreme libertarian sense' then they aren't right-wing, whether that be far-right or not.

        I said "consider themselves". I don't agree that they are anarchists, but some choose to describe themselves as such. Are you not familiar with the concept of the libertarian right?
        spook_cook wrote: »
        What motivates me? Sorry but seeing such a lazy, poorly linked story of some loon targeting a US politician with a big nod-and-a-wink that it's Drumpf's fault is begging for it.

        Sorry for pointing out the terrorism on the other political side. Doesn't fit. If Drumpf etc own this, do Bernie and AOC and others own the violence they've inspired?

        Is the majority of terror from "right" wing sources? Sure, fine? Am I gonna read a study in order to debate with it? No, fk that.

        Should a loon acting on his own mad theories impact how I or you, should vote? You'd need your head re-attached if your answer is anything but a firm No.

        Thanks for explaining. I don't see the "wink and a nod" here, neither the OP or the two articles linked mentions Trump. You are right though, there are often attempts to link these sorts of antics with Trump which can be incorrect. He doesn't help himself with his "stand back, stand by" type comments, god bless him.

        I agree that the antics of extremists should have no impact on who we vote for or identify politically - I don't see the antics of extremists as having anything to do with normal people on either side. This is why I find it puzzling that anyone feels the need to bring up the "both sides" talking point when we're talking about violent extremists, it comes across as defensive, which I see no need for as the extremes are not representative of that political perspective.


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      • #22
        randd1
        Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭randd1


        CtevenSrowder wrote: »
        You think a guy shooting up a shopping centre on Christmas day would've had 'plenty' of people cheering him on? I think you are talking nonsense.

        You’re completely naive or willfully ignorant if you don’t think there are plenty in America who would cheer him on.


      • #23
        CtevenSrowder
        Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


        RWCNT wrote: »
        I said "consider themselves". I don't agree that they are anarchists, but some choose to describe themselves as such. Are you not familiar with the concept of the libertarian right?

        Why do you not see them as such? Would it be because it is more convenient to few them as being on the right? The Department of Homeland security doesn't few them as being on the right.

        https://twitter.com/dhsgov/status/1274404688276754434?lang=en


      • #24
        CtevenSrowder
        Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


        randd1 wrote: »
        You’re completely naive or willfully ignorant if you don’t think there are plenty in America who would cheer him on.

        Yes I can picture it now. People across America waving their Flag, singing the Star Spangled Banner, cheering on their latest hero who has just shot up a food market on Christmas Day. I think it's you who is ignorant.


      • #25
        Overheal
        Registered Users Posts: 81,593 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


        CtevenSrowder wrote: »
        Well the last thread you started about kidnapping, the people's politics seemed more aligned with anti-fa, or anarchy, then what you were initially hoping for. Maybe this time these terrorists will be more to your liking: white and right-wing.

        Haven’t seen any Antifa demonstrations going after Gov Whitmer so I don’t follow you.


      • #26
        Overheal
        Registered Users Posts: 81,593 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


        Outlaw Pete wrote: »
        Reminds of this tweet:

        https://twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/1230573658768379910

        Ah yes that mass shooter who was inspired by all that violent rhetoric of Bernies. :rolleyes:


      • #27
        Overheal
        Registered Users Posts: 81,593 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


        CtevenSrowder wrote: »
        Why do you not see them as such? Would it be because it is more convenient to few them as being on the right? The Department of Homeland security doesn't few them as being on the right.

        https://twitter.com/dhsgov/status/1274404688276754434?lang=en

        What an unusual tweet from a US agency. Has the hallmarks of Trumps control over social media. Reminds me how he manipulated the NOAA to tweeting support of Sharpiegate:

        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-hurricane-idUSKBN23N06K


      • #28
        CtevenSrowder
        Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


        Overheal wrote: »
        What an unusual tweet from a US agency. Has the hallmarks of Trumps control over social media. Reminds me how he manipulated the NOAA to tweeting support of Sharpiegate:

        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-hurricane-idUSKBN23N06K

        Why, because they corrected the record? Again, you just want these people to fit into a certain, politically convenient box for yourself.


      • #29
        Overheal
        Registered Users Posts: 81,593 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


        CtevenSrowder wrote: »
        Why, because they corrected the record? Again, you just want these people to fit into a certain, politically convenient box for yourself.

        Because it’s highly irregular for a US agency to tweet jabs at news outlets for political reporting. They are meant to be nonpartisan agencies.


      • #30
        fly_agaric
        Registered Users Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


        spook_cook wrote: »
        This is a particularly stupid thing to come out on an Irish board. Ask your parents about "not all Irish" during the madness unleashed a few decades ago. Ask your relatives who lived in the UK.

        Tarring a whole group with whatever bs your shoving is long a sign of an arshole or moron.

        You're protesting a bit much with your calling poster(s) "arseholes" and "morons" I think.

        You piped up to offer your own both-sides opinions on US politics about "the guy who made a terrorist attack on an ICE centre last year, or the mass shooting attempted assasination of multiple GOP politicians in 2017" etc

        Irish republicanism as an ideology definitely had a problem with legitimising/excusing violence in the name of the cause back then.
        My parents thought the same.
        That is not tarring all Irish people with the brush of being terrorist sympathisers, [nor was my comment tarring "all muslims" with being terrorist sympathisers].


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      • #31
        CtevenSrowder
        Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


        Overheal wrote: »
        Because it’s highly irregular for a US agency to tweet jabs at news outlets for political reporting. They are meant to be nonpartisan agencies.

        It's incorrect political reporting. And their isn't anything partisan about what they said. In fact it is correct, Americans trust in their media is around 40%, and a large problem is due to the inaccuracy and bias in reporting across the political divide.


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