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16-12-2020, 01:15   #61
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You were still required to 'import' it at the actual time ..of import. Revenue dont give a monkeys in that regard.
Yes, at the actual time of import it is "quality used spares'" and when it becomes a "mechanically propelled vehicle" it then becomes a VRT/registration matter.
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Yes, at the actual time of import it is "quality used spares'" and when it becomes a "mechanically propelled vehicle" it then becomes a VRT/registration matter.
to you yes, but to Revenue, the date of Import is the date it crossed the border. There is no provision for non-working cars.
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Its not a great unknown. The revenue clearly have stated that if you present a car from a 'third country' you must have a clearance certificate and its been like that for years. From 01/01/21 the UK is a 'third country'. We have known for months that this has being coming so why are we complaining? Its not 'unjust' to change the goalposts. Blame the Brits, they voted for it, its their fault!
To be fair, it is an unknown as the Brexit situation hasn't been resolved and indeed the revenue video said "may require". To note, I didn't complain in my post, I do think that the lack of clarity coming from revenue is concerning however.

For those of us less educated, could you please explain how I can obtain a clearance certificate now for my classic that has recently entered the country prior to Brexit?
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For those of us less educated, could you please explain how I can obtain a clearance certificate now for my classic that has recently entered the country prior to Brexit?
From where and when did you import it?
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From where and when did you import it?
Northern Ireland, early December.
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Yes, at the actual time of import it is "quality used spares'" and when it becomes a "mechanically propelled vehicle" it then becomes a VRT/registration matter.
Not in the eyes of Revenue.
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For those of us less educated, could you please explain how I can obtain a clearance certificate now for my classic that has recently entered the country prior to Brexit?
Phone up NCTS/go online, make appointment, turn up on the appointed day, pay them the €€€€

But you'll not be doing that this side of Brexit though: waiting lists all over the country.
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Not in the eyes of Revenue.
I await my visit from the Revenue then asking me to pay VAT & VRT on my boxes of "quality used spares."

It's not going to happen, if it did, then they'd let me register the fecking thing!

It's not Schrödinger's car, that magically becomes a car just because the Revenue peeks inside the box.
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and if they produce evidence of it coming into the Country as a car a number of months or years previously?

Revenue give you 30 days to re-register it, the fact that you cannot do so is of no importance to them, there is no provision for such a situation.

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That evidence is unavailable to them as even if they followed me all the way from the North, the only evidence they would have would be a body shell on a trailer, an unattached chassis and numerous boxes of quality used spares.

It's been apart that long, I've long forgotten how it all goes back together or where everything is.

I will of course update as and when anything progresses in this case.
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in your particular case maybe but as general advice, Revenue allow 30 days for registration and there is no provision for cars that cannot be registered due to being non-runners.
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Northern Ireland, early December.
You dont need a tax clearance cert assuming you have already made an appointment with the VRT and you got a date before Brexit.
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You dont need a tax clearance cert assuming you have already made an appointment with the VRT and you got a date before Brexit.
Thanks for response, appointment applied for early December (think the 2nd) with 6th Jan date given after waiting a week or so - I.e. not before Brexit and I applied as early as I could. This was exactly my point though, revenue have been unable to confirm whether or not I need a customs clearance cert so its still an unknown about what VRT will be demanding to register hence I'd like to know how I get a customs clearance cert showing its customs compliant!
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Thanks for response, appointment applied for early December (think the 2nd) with 6th Jan date given after waiting a week or so - I.e. not before Brexit and I applied as early as I could. This was exactly my point though, revenue have been unable to confirm whether or not I need a customs clearance cert so its still an unknown about what VRT will be demanding to register hence I'd like to know how I get a customs clearance cert showing its customs compliant!
Thinking a little outside the box could a commissioner of oaths help in this situation to verify your car was in the country before dec 31st 2020.
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Thanks for response, appointment applied for early December (think the 2nd) with 6th Jan date given after waiting a week or so - I.e. not before Brexit and I applied as early as I could. This was exactly my point though, revenue have been unable to confirm whether or not I need a customs clearance cert so its still an unknown about what VRT will be demanding to register hence I'd like to know how I get a customs clearance cert showing its customs compliant!
excuse my ignorance but I would have thought a Customs clearance cert would be issued after Customs determine what VAT and Excise duty should be due and after it has been paid....ie not required before Brexit.
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