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11-09-2019, 14:05   #61
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Not huge money. I'm sure the OP could afford to spring for it himself.

My point is, there is a page and a half of replies here saying why it can't be done, health and safety, what if theres a fire etc etc etc.

It can be done, with no fire hazard aspect, and for not a lot of money.
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Maybe you should read page one of this thread, specifically post No. 15 and then Post No. 20 which mentioned thumb turns as an options and a suitable option. Maybe you missed those posts
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11-09-2019, 14:13   #62
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Not huge money. I'm sure the OP could afford to spring for it himself.

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How much is "not huge money". 7k is not huge money to some people.
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11-09-2019, 22:18   #63
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i lived in a house share ,every bedroom door had a lock,
Even if you trust the tenants there ,its best to lock the door when you go out.
There may be a tradesman there when you go out,during the day
to paint , or do minor repairs .
There,s no way you can monitor every person who goe,s into the house
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Do you want someone who maybe is not sober coming back from the pub, going into your room,when you are not there .
without permission ,rents are high,
having basic security on your room and your possessions is the least you should get as a tenant .
A carpenter can put a lock on 1 door in a few minute,s ,
it will not cost much .
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11-09-2019, 22:26   #64
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In apartments all doors are fire rated and you won't be able to kick them in.

People have died in houses due to locked doors. A little bit of insecurity is better than burning.

I know then locks and how few different key combinations that they have. If someone working in your home wanted to open the door that lock won't stop them. So while you might think that it's safely locked up it's not.
Fire in my apartment block a few years ago, most the doors were kicked in, it was happening while I was there. Even if people left their apartment and locked it after them they were kicked in. I left mine unlocked in case of that.
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11-09-2019, 22:43   #65
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So my suggestion is put in door lock,s ,ones that only can be locked from the outside
using a standard basta lock, no keyhole on the inside,
in case of fire there,s no need to look for a key.
And then a simple sliding bolt lock can be installed on the inside of the door,
so the tenant can lock the door from the inside if they want before they
go to sleep.
So there is no risk of a delay if theres a fire in the house .
no need to look for a key in the unlikely chance there might be a fire ,
when the tenants are all asleep .
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11-09-2019, 23:02   #66
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Yes. I’ve seen teenagers go to their rooms, lock the door from the inside, pop in head phones or turn on music and not even hear the smoke alarm on the landing.
That’s not accidental locking then.

When I was a teenager, my bedroom key was confiscated. Anyone renting a house to a family with teenagers - that’s the most likely scenario.

In an all-adult house-sharing situation, you’d be mighty unlucky to die in a fire because you accidentally locked your bedroom door.
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I, as a landlord would not provide locks for bedroom doors.
I believe they are a great fire hazard should they be mistakenly locked at night.
Even thumb locks or have you adjusted your opinion when that was raised as an option.

What about an internal bolt but a key for external when leaving (i.e. very similar to a thumblock scenario) ?

With regards to cost it seems fair that the tenant pays if it is their concern.

Fire Safety is obviously a concern but there a plenty of residential houses that all have the typical lock and handle on them.

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How much is "not huge money". 7k is not huge money to some people.
Well if a lock costs 7K...

The real cost would be the installation not the lock but could be taken from the deposit or added as an additional cost temporarily. If the landlord likes their tenant and wants to keep them then they should consider it a cost of doing business. Obviously if renting to multiple tenants then the landlord should consider safety of their tenant (and so many in this thread are when regarding fire regulations), especially from other tenants, paramount and either agree to the lock or agree to ending the lease early with no issues if a lock is required due to safety concerns. (Don't get wound up landlords!)

EDIT: OP, talk to your landlord about the options and your concerns about privacy while away and see what they are willing to accommodate, maybe get some prices and if you can afford upfront: perfect.

Edit 2: A night latch (used before thumb locks etc. became popular) seems to be the perfect option here, easy to open from inside and lockable from outside. They are not expensive, 15EUR to 50EUR, and are relatively easy to install so the labour might be easy enough.

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Even thumb locks or have you adjusted your opinion when that was raised as an option.
I have never adjusted my opinion. If you search my posts over the years, I have always stated that no key locks go in. Thumb locks are fine and i've stated that in previous posts.

My profession and living comes from Fire Safety Inspections in Dublin, so I can 100% confirm that my opinions on lockable doors to bedrooms has not changed in 20 years!

My initial reply was because the OP wanted key lock both sides.
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