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Ahern Resigns.

  • 24-03-2012 10:27pm
    #1
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Typical of the coward.
    Jumps ship before he's pushed.
    What do you think?


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  • #2
    unit 1
    Registered Users Posts: 548 ✭✭✭unit 1


    Not the least bit surprised. Now if only the rest of the i'mFF would follow.


  • #3
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,468 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I would assume by resigning he gets to keep some sort of entitlements somewhere along the way rather than having them removed if sacked...

    Sure that's the same that nearly every politician does, resign keep the perks before you get culled.


  • #4
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    He stresses that this is a political decision, and not in any way an admission of wrongdoing.

    The article reiterates his rejection of the Tribunal's findings, and confirms he is considering options for vindicating his good name.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0324/mahon.html

    He had every opportunity, countless times, at the tribunal to set the record straight ..... not once did he convince the tribunal that he was telling the truth. That is some achievement IMO. Now he is considering his options. How about emigration?


  • #5
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,660 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    personally i believe its all a New and Improved FF ploy. A few years back, they were all backslapping bertie and before the **** started stirring, they loved him. Now they believe publicly getting rid of him will convince the rest of us that FF arent really corrupt - only Bertie was. And the worst thing is people will fall for it.


  • #6
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    the wouldn't of sacked him


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  • #7
    john reilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭john reilly


    so he got a few pound along the way. i certainly wouldnt have turned it down.


  • #8
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    john reilly wrote: »
    so he got a few pound along the way.

    not according to Bertie, "I am not a crook" Ahern.:D


  • #9
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    A smart move from a smart man.
    The greatest trick the Devil ever played was convincing us he doesn't exist.


    FF will turn the scandal on it head and milk his departure for what its worth and the gullible amongst us will fall for it too.


  • #10
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    What do you think?

    I think that will open the door for renewed focus on the part of Mahon that talked about some ministers attempts to collapse the tribunal.

    There could be more damage there yet.


  • #11
    Kristopherus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    The FF executive don't have to accept his resignation. If Martin wishes to retain what little credibility he has, he should be dragging Smartass Bertie through the keyhole of the meeting room in order to deliver the meeting's sacking of him.:(


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  • #12
    southsiderosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    MOD NOTE:

    There is a fine line between righteous outrage and mindless ranting. There isn't a lot of tolerance for the latter in this forum, so if you can't keep it civil - i.e. you can't post without resorting to calling Ahern a cnut, turd, bastard, etc - then you are posting in the wrong forum.

    Consider this a general warning - there will not be any more on this thread.


  • #13
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Kristopherus wrote: »
    The FF executive don't have to accept his resignation. If Martin wishes to retain what little credibility he has, he should be dragging Smartass Bertie through the keyhole of the meeting room in order to deliver the meeting's sacking of him.:(

    Yes indeed, they should rubber stamp it so Ahern does not have the last word. Martin is weak though and tainted with Ahern's legacy, so it will suit him to do nothing.


  • #14
    Continuity Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭Continuity Wolfe Tone


    Ah thats disappointing, I wanted to see the carnage the attempt to throw him out would cause.

    I think he is right in the sense that it would cause division so this is probably the best thing to happen for FF - although I suspect they had all this planned in advance.


  • #15
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    as Joe Higgans said FF should disband


  • #16
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,458 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    laoch na mona wrote: »
    as Joe Higgans said FF should disband

    Poor Joe Higgins and his socialist party should disband - he just has to be kept remind that Fianna Fáil has a mandate in opposition, having secured 17.5% of the first preference vote during the last election.

    It is a far cry from the 0.6% that Higgins and his socialist comrades secured. :)


  • #17
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,282 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    Poor Joe Higgins and his socialist party should disband - he just has to be kept remind that Fianna Fáil has a mandate in opposition, having secured 17.5% of the first preference vote during the last election.

    It is a far cry from the 0.6% that Higgins and his socialist comrades secured. :)

    Completely true, but yet a prime example of statistical bollixology.


  • #18
    southsiderosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    MOD NOTE:

    This thread is on Ahern, so let's not get sidetracked. There is more than enough grist for the mill with the thread topic!


  • #19
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    Poor Joe Higgins and his socialist party should disband - he just has to be kept remind that Fianna Fáil has a mandate in opposition, having secured 17.5% of the first preference vote during the last election.

    It is a far cry from the 0.6% that Higgins and his socialist comrades secured. :)

    FF and it's ilk would be better reminded to keep the smug smilies behind their own closed doors.


  • #20
    shancoduff
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭shancoduff


    Very cute move of him to resign without suffering the further disgrace of being a former leader that got kicked out, and have the audacity to say he's doing it for the party. I'd say he got PR advice, and they told him that this was the best way of damage limitation.


  • #21
    Continuity Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭Continuity Wolfe Tone


    gambiaman wrote: »
    FF and it's ilk would be better reminded to keep the smug smilies behind their own closed doors.
    Sunday Times has FF on 10% in the wake of the mahon report.


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  • #22
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Continuity Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Sunday Times has FF on 10% in the wake of the mahon report.

    I'm pleased the reported level of thickness has declined 7.5%.

    Still way too high.


  • #23
    SeanW
    Registered Users Posts: 8,723 ✭✭✭SeanW


    About 5 years too late.


  • #24
    Foghladh
    Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭Foghladh


    charlemont wrote: »
    A smart move from a smart man.
    The greatest trick the Devil ever played was convincing us he doesn't exist.


    FF will turn the scandal on it head and milk his departure for what its worth and the gullible amongst us will fall for it too.


    Given that the Devil doesn't actually exist I don't know what that does for your analogy


  • #25
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Totally meaningless. Ahern knew he was out, he just left before he was evicted so that he might try and maintain some claim on his own dignity.

    The National Executive will still pass some (equally meaningless) gesture condemning Ahern next week, I am certain.

    I really believe and hope that Fianna Fail will come back from the events of the past twelve months.
    But if its leadership are only ever interested in playing to the indignant critics who will always find some reason to vent their wrath, it will never recover. Time to stop with the meaningless gestures. They're just fodder for the perpetually furious.

    There are events in this country that are causing people to actually lose sleep at night, lose their homes, and lose their sense of personal security. Much of these are, in part, because of Fianna Fail. That's what Fianna Fail need to re-examine. I really don't think anybody is losing sleep over Bertie. If they are, they must have precious little to worry about.

    It's time to get over Bertie.


  • #26
    Firegaurd
    Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭Firegaurd


    Ok do FF actually think people believe that they are so ashamed of Bertie that they were going to expell him.

    Three weeks ago they were applauding him at their Ard Heis. Did they actually need the tribunal report to confirm that he was lying to the tribunal.

    The dogs in the street knew his stories were laughable. If they had any moral fibre they would have expelled him when he resigned as Taoiseach.

    What difference does it make to anybody anyway if he is still a member of FF. He should be investigated by the Revenue commissioners and the gardai and any suspected wrong doings should be followed through.


  • #27
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    later12 wrote: »
    Totally meaningless. Ahern knew he was out, he just left before he was evicted so that he might try and maintain some claim on his own dignity.

    The National Executive will still pass some (equally meaningless) gesture condemning Ahern next week, I am certain.

    I really believe and hope that Fianna Fail will come back from the events of the past twelve months.
    But if its leadership are only ever interested in playing to the indignant critics who will always find some reason to vent their wrath, it will never recover. Time to stop with the meaningless gestures. They're just fodder for the perpetually furious.

    There are events in this country that are causing people to actually lose sleep at night, lose their homes, and lose their sense of personal security. Much of these are, in part, because of Fianna Fail. That's what Fianna Fail need to re-examine. I really don't think anybody is losing sleep over Bertie. If they are, they must have precious little to worry about.

    It's time to get over Bertie.

    Party pap.

    As long as gurriers like him still strut about grabbing 3k a week plus from the public purse while citizens of this country lose sleep then there is plenty to be furious about.
    Justice and accountability needs to be seen to be done before any ridiculuous "rebirth" of your organisation.

    Country first.


  • #28
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,458 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Firegaurd wrote: »
    Three weeks ago they were applauding him at their Ard Heis.

    That is absolute rubbish.

    I agree with you in regards the investigation though - where the money actually came from should be identified. Furthermore he has a tax bill that needs paying.


  • #29
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,553 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    You can't fire me, I quit.


  • #30
    lucozader
    Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭lucozader


    Ahern is shocked at the corruption that has been unvealed in Fianna Fail. He is disgusted with Fianna Fail and its corrupt ways. He is leaving because he does not want to be associated with such a rotten and corrupt party.


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  • #31
    SeanW
    Registered Users Posts: 8,723 ✭✭✭SeanW


    lucozader wrote: »
    Ahern is shocked at the corruption that has been unvealed in Fianna Fail. He is disgusted with Fianna Fail and its corrupt ways. He is leaving because he does not want to be associated with such a rotten and corrupt party.
    Thanks, you gave me a good laugh
    :D


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