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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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    #5642
    Ficheall
    Registered Users Posts: 9,018 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Yes, that confused me too. I thought they were mandatory already but without legislation.
    What is there actually "legislation" for though, in relation to any of the restrictions? A lot of it seems to be requests and advisories..


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    #5643
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 85,006 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Galadriel wrote: »
    I have stayed in two hotels recently and you could only get food with your meal, the same as the rest of the bars currently open.

    I would expect food with any meal :p do you mean alcohol

    I think some have been more laxed
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    #5644
    SummerTime14
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭SummerTime14


    Galadriel wrote: »
    I have stayed in two hotels recently and you could only get food with your meal, the same as the rest of the bars currently open.

    I certainly hope you got food with your meal :-)


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    #5645
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭prunudo


    The best way for shops to police mandatory face coverings is to offer 10% discount to all wearers. Be quick enough to get people to be compliant.


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    #5646
    Pentecost
    Registered Users Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    I'm struggling to understand what they are going to do if, most likely when, there are further outbreaks when schools are open? Why will the risks be lower then?


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    #5647
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Pentecost wrote: »
    I'm struggling to understand what they are going to do if, most likely when, there are further outbreaks when schools are open? Why will the risks be lower then?

    They well not be...


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    #5648
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,742 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    NPHET running the country again

    Government didn't have the balls to go against them

    This shıte.
    It also makes me laugh when lads post hashtag notmygovernment and "It's like a police state".

    You lads wouldn't know what a police state was if it bit you on the balls.


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    #5649
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Masks mandatory in shops from Monday


    About fcuking time

    This Government couldn't be more "shure it'll be grand" if it was dressed as a leprechaun, drinking Guinness in a big field


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    #5650
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    I thought masks were already mandatory in shops? I must admit when I went into my local shops that are small, rural shops, I was dipping in to get some bits and back out again, I was less than 5 minutes and I kept moving and I didn't put on a mask. When it comes to the local shop where I'm only dipping in and out, I don't see a reason or a need to where a mask.


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    #5651
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,433 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I thought masks were already mandatory in shops? I must admit when I went into my local shops that are small, rural shops, I was dipping in to get some bits and back out again, I was less than 5 minutes and I kept moving and I didn't put on a mask. When it comes to the local shop where I'm only dipping in and out, I don't see a reason or a need to where a mask.

    Makes no odds. You're going in nonetheless .


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    #5652
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Big time

    There's more people moaning on and offline about "but the pubs!1!" than there is about how Schools can safely return

    Nation of alcos. Always have and will be

    You know it’s a lot cheaper to buy alcohol outside of pubs, in supermarkets etc?


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    #5653
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I thought masks were already mandatory in shops? I must admit when I went into my local shops that are small, rural shops, I was dipping in to get some bits and back out again, I was less than 5 minutes and I kept moving and I didn't put on a mask. When it comes to the local shop where I'm only dipping in and out, I don't see a reason or a need to where a mask.

    Cause you dont breathe, sneeze, cough, speak or sing in those 5 mins?


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    #5654
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    bennyineire wrote: »
    What are you basing this on though ?

    Chickenlittleitis


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    #5655
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    MOR316 wrote: »
    "We are encouraging people to meet outside"
    "This virus thrives when people meet"

    Good God :D:D:D


    It does though :confused:


    A good few people I know are only meeting others outdoors


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    #5656
    podgeandrodge
    Registered Users Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    They well not be...

    Nobody knows, can only guess. I'm guessing increased cases, with my Boards epidemiology degree, I don't believe that opening schools will not result in some extra cases, as with opening anything else.

    I'm disappointed that we are playing it so more carefully than other EU countries, I hope that we aren't just 'slowing' down inevitable transmission as some folks suggest. I had hoped the curve was sufficiently flattened to take some chances once tracing kept things under control.

    Disappointed that with 5m people in the country only 1.5 million downloaded the app though.


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    #5657
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,632 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    They’re after confusing everyone now, this is a shambles


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    #5658
    [Deleted User]
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    I thought masks were already mandatory in shops? I must admit when I went into my local shops that are small, rural shops, I was dipping in to get some bits and back out again, I was less than 5 minutes and I kept moving and I didn't put on a mask. When it comes to the local shop where I'm only dipping in and out, I don't see a reason or a need to where a mask.

    I know what you mean, but to be honest every little shop is local to someone and if everyone takes that attitude we will not get the benefits that come with collective compliance. Little lapses mount up and they're all avoidable.


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    #5659
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    expectationlost wrote: »
    schools aren't opening for 3 weeks

    Ah sure the virus will probably be gone by then.


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    #5660
    grind gremlin
    Registered Users Posts: 419 ✭✭grind gremlin


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Nobody knows, can only guess. I'm guessing increased cases, with my Boards epidemiology degree, I don't believe that opening schools will not result in some extra cases, as with opening anything else.

    I'm disappointed that we are playing it so more carefully than other EU countries, I hope that we aren't just 'slowing' down inevitable transmission as some folks suggest. I had hoped the curve was sufficiently flattened to take some chances once tracing kept things under control.

    Disappointed that with 5m people in the country only 1.5 million downloaded the app though.

    We are playing it like this because our health system is a shambles.


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    #5661
    podgeandrodge
    Registered Users Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    'We're all in this together' gets a bit tired when certain decisions are taken that don't have much credibility attached.
    Yes, I'm still complaining about pub/restaurants closing at 11pm rather than maybe 12. Loada bollix!


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    #5662
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Are SF (or any of the opposition parties) calling for things to be opened up quicker?

    When your enemy(rival) is making a mockery of themselves, best not to interrupt.


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    #5663
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    It would make the headlines around the world.

    Diageo should refuse to supply the Dail Bar until all pubs are reopened.


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    #5664
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Arghus wrote: »
    There seems to be a lot of shock and bewilderment at today's announcement, which I don't really understand. Surely it was fairly signposted that pubs reopening was unlikely to go ahead.


    A huge amount of people are completely in denial about this situation, including the sugarcoaters in this thread

    Sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la! la! la!" is the behavior of a child

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    #5665
    Pentecost
    Registered Users Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Nobody knows, can only guess. I'm guessing increased cases, with my Boards epidemiology degree, I don't believe that opening schools will not result in some extra cases, as with opening anything else.

    I'm disappointed that we are playing it so more carefully than other EU countries, I hope that we aren't just 'slowing' down inevitable transmission as some folks suggest. I had hoped the curve was sufficiently flattened to take some chances once tracing kept things under control.

    Disappointed that with 5m people in the country only 1.5 million downloaded the app though.

    If they insist schools have to be the priority then how can any of the current restrictions be lifted while the schools are open? It doesn't make sense to me, genuinely, unless the plan is to keep things shut until next summer but they can't or won't say that.


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    #5666
    harr
    Registered Users Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭harr


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I thought masks were already mandatory in shops? I must admit when I went into my local shops that are small, rural shops, I was dipping in to get some bits and back out again, I was less than 5 minutes and I kept moving and I didn't put on a mask. When it comes to the local shop where I'm only dipping in and out, I don't see a reason or a need to where a mask.

    The government advisory was to wear masks two weeks ago while they drafted up the legal stuff, that normally takes a few weeks the same as masks on all public transport it’s was only advised at first till it became legal.
    So for this Monday the 10th the wearing of masks is legally enforceable in all shop and shopping centres .
    So that means if you are in shop for 5 minutes or 5 hours a mask has to be worn and like the public transport I am sure they will be doing spot checks.


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    #5667
    thelad95
    Registered Users Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Nobody knows, can only guess. I'm guessing increased cases, with my Boards epidemiology degree, I don't believe that opening schools will not result in some extra cases, as with opening anything else.

    I'm disappointed that we are playing it so more carefully than other EU countries, I hope that we aren't just 'slowing' down inevitable transmission as some folks suggest. I had hoped the curve was sufficiently flattened to take some chances once tracing kept things under control.

    Disappointed that with 5m people in the country only 1.5 million downloaded the app though.

    I personally am happy that we live in a country where there hasn't been utter recklessness with people's lives. A lot of people seem to hold Sweden up as some paragon of how they got on with it. Yet they have thousands more deaths than their Scandinavian neighbours while they will face a similar economic downturn to most of Europe. So what exactly was all that for? Literally to the detriment of thousands of lives.

    Meanwhile the very countries that opened pubs in May and invited Tourists in en masse (Spain and Greece) are having a serious uptick in inflections.

    Ultimately none of us are experts in epidemiology and we are all spoofers. Even our elected government are spoofers. None of us have any right to stamp on the opinions of people who have devoted years of their lives to epidemiology.


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    #5668
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    prunudo wrote: »
    The best way for shops to police mandatory face coverings is to offer 10% discount to all wearers. Be quick enough to get people to be compliant.


    That's a great idea actually

    More savvy businesses will go 20% and get some positive free PR on Socail Media, local press etc

    I can see this happening with businesses who really need people back in their doors and who already had strong enough margins that they can take a 10-20% hit


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    #5669
    Speak Now
    Registered Users Posts: 8,505 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Gibraltar, Monaco and San Marino being on and off of green lists shows what clowns are running this country.


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    #5670
    thelad95
    Registered Users Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    harr wrote: »
    The government advisory was to wear masks two weeks ago while they drafted up the legal stuff, that normally takes a few weeks the same as masks on all public transport it’s was only advised at first till it became legal.
    So for this Monday the 10th the wearing of masks is legally enforceable in all shop and shopping centres .
    So that means if you are in shop for 5 minutes or 5 hours a mask has to be worn and like the public transport I am sure they will be doing spot checks.

    Who exactly is going to police this? Probably an increased Garda presence at first with some ridiculous operation name stamped on it but then what after that?


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    #5671
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    That's a great idea actually

    More savvy businesses will go 20% and get some positive free PR on Socail Media, local press etc

    I can see this happening with businesses who really need people back in their doors and who already had strong enough margins that they can take a 10-20% hit

    Not many businesses have 10 to 20% margins that they can play with


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