2013 Reg Number

I didn't go through all posts in this thread, but from what I can see some people seem to think that displaying year on numberplate is a reason for the same cars having different value depending on year.
That's not true.

Most countries in Europe don't display year on numberplate, but car manufacture year is always one of the most important factors when it comes to second hand car price.
F.e. two exactly the same cars (the same model, the same spec) but one 2008 other 2009.
Surely 2009 will be worth much more than 2008, even though it's not displayed on numberplate, and only the owner knows how old is his car.

I can see one significent difference though comparing f.e. Ireland to Poland.
In Poland it's not the first registartion date which matters, but manufacture date. That's the date indicated in car documents (reg cert).
So new car sales is spreaded over the year quite evenly, but price goes down throughout the year.
For example the same brand new car at dealers will be the most expesinve in Januray, and price will go down subsequently throughout the year.
At the end of the year there are always sales.
And eventually whatever 2012 stock they won't be able to sell in 2012, they will put on big sales at the begining of 2013.
So you can buy brand new 2012 car in 2013 for much cheaper than 2013.

I think that's the better idea than like in Ireland having dealers to wait until 2013 to register car manufactured in 2012 registered with 131 plate and sell it for full price.

Back in 08 I was buying a new S-Max, and the salesman told me that if I chose the green (by far my favourite colour of those available, although it was a pretty dull green...), he'd give me €1500 less for it if I ever came back to trade it in than he'd give for a black, grey or silver one.

Why? Because some people think green cars are unlucky. I haven't a superstitious bone in my body, but other people's superstitions about green make it rational for me to avoid buying a green car new.

Similarly, any idiot can verify exactly how old a car is, so a December car is verifiably only a month older than a car from the following January, but the widespread insane belief that it loses a years value in a month means it really does lose a years value in a month.

The regs is other countries don't make any sense!

Backfire wrote: »

I assume people that have grown up in a particular country have little issues with their registration system in terms of understanding it.

No, the current Irish system is far, far clearer that the old Irish system I grew up with.

Because people can understand it, they can actually remember bits like "It was definitely a 10-D reg".

A string of apparently random letters and numbers like the british one (or our old one) is harder to memorize, even partially.

Backfire wrote: »

Thanks for your understanding and calm reply (I did sound like I 'knew it all' and exerting anger for no reason...maybe its because I am poor )

But on topic...
When you say issue 14 plates late in the year, do you mean for use BEFORE January 1st?
Also you state that cars with '132' plates will have little difference in value to the '131' plates, that may be so...but this is Ireland. I would not be surprised if you do see significant differences, mainly implemented deliberately by dealers (nationwide).

The vanity associated with number plates has profound impacts on car sales and deals, do not expect that to disappear overnight due to the implementation of this new number plate system.

Yes exactly issue 14 1 plates in July 2013 in Ireland

after all they will issue them in August in the uk

Sobanek wrote: »

Well, it's almost as accurate as the system here.

WPR 65KU - W stands for Masovian Voivodeship, while the PR stands for "Powiat" - in this case Pruszkowski.

Here you're only missing the PR bit, but I guess that's because they don't have that here!

(I can imagine the same system here ) DRN 00001 as an example - Dublin, Rathfarnham - No. 1

You missed the point.
I live in Mayo but I have LK reg. (just because vehicle first owner in Ireland lived in LK area.
My neighbour has D reg. Other neighbour has G. Next one is OY.
We all live in Mayo, and we have all sort of reg plates - so when I drive to Dublin, no one will know that I've actually driven from Mayo.

In Poland when I have WPR reg it means that I live there.
Obviously it's not 100% guarantee, as car might belong to company or bank (in case of leasing) and reg will indicate place where company or bank is located, not where I live.
But in fact in vast majority of cases, reg shows where owner is from. So if I drive to some holiday resort and will be looking for B'n'B and owner will see WPR plate (from capital city) they will surely quote me higher price ;P

awec wrote: »

What I don't get is whether it's 131 or 132 it's still a 2013 car and it's still going to devalue as a 2013 car come 2014. The year of the car is still on the plate.

Is a 132 car going to be worth more than a 131 car in future? Not likely. Is anyone really going to wait until the second half of the year when it's not really going to make a difference?

There shouldn't be a difference in the pre-owned value of a 131 and 132 car in the future but the vanity of the Irish people will make this so.

awec wrote: »

If they want to fix the vanity issue the only solution is to remove the year from the license plate altogether.

A 132 car is still a 13 car.

Yes I agree with you, but this will never happen as having the year on the number plate is a profound catalyst for new car sales.

Backfire wrote: »

There shouldn't be a difference in the pre-owned value of a 131 and 132 car in the future but the vanity of the Irish people will make this so.

We need a Savanarola in the Dail!

To be far I think this may have the opposite effect on car sales.
I can see it going two ways;

1/ People do not buy new cars as often because the will get half the amount of time for it being 'new'. 6 months with 131 vs 12 months with 13.

2/ People still buy there new cars in 131 instead of 132 because the 141 number will be a year newer.

We will have to wait and see how it all pans out.

Can we just not have private plates, cheap tax, no VRT, no commercial conversion. Wait no we cant this is Ireland where everything car related is stupid.