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Letting out whole house or individual rooms

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    #32
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    LJ12345 wrote: »
    There’s rent a room leases and entire property leases. The rule in the uk is if you do not have the right to all 4 corners of the property then you’re not leasing the entire house and the landlord has access to the areas kept for themselves. I haven’t seen any mention of anything surrounding the rules on this in Ireland, anyone any insight?

    This is not the UK. We left in 1922.


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    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    I was at an RTB adjudication where that very thing happened.

    How did they justify it when the rules of the RTA could not be met. The Owner is entitled to enter the house, stay in the house and do as he pleases in house going against a large amount of the RTA. How often was the owner staying in the house?

    I would assume immediately after the adjunction the “tenant” was given notice as the owner required the room back for his own use.


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    #34
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Remy Ambitious Stocking wrote: »
    How did they justify it when the rules of the RTA could not be met. The Owner is entitled to enter the house, stay in the house and do as he pleases in house going against a large amount of the RTA.

    I would assume immediately after the adjunction the “tenant” was given notice as the owner required the room back for his own use.

    The finding was that the tenant was a tenant of that room with shared services.
    What happened after that was the owner had to stay living with the tenant.


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    LJ12345
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭LJ12345


    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    This is not the UK. We left in 1922.

    Very constructive thanks


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    #36
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    LJ12345 wrote: »
    Very constructive thanks

    You are welcome.


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    curious minds
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭curious minds


    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    I was at an RTB adjudication where that very thing happened.

    Where is this adjudication? any name? so we can read the report and figure out the grounds on which RTB made the adjudication


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    #38
    dennyk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭dennyk


    Keep in mind there are different rules and criteria for the Rent-a-Room tax relief scheme and for determining whether a rental is a license or a tenancy; a license agreement can still exist in certain circumstances even if the rental in question doesn't qualify for the Rent-a-Room scheme by Revenue's standards. The landlord keeping a room for his own regular use may be enough for the RTB to deem the arrangement a license agreement even if it is not the landlord's primary residence and therefore doesn't qualify for Rent-a-Room tax relief.


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    #39
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    curious minds wrote: »
    Where is this adjudication? any name? so we can read the report and figure out the grounds on which RTB made the adjudication

    Only Determination Orders are published in respect of adjudications, which are private in any case.


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    LJ12345
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭LJ12345


    Useful information for this thread. 3rd point on the types of licensee arrangements

    Link: https://onestopshop.rtb.ie/beginning-a-tenancy/types-of-tenancies-and-agreements/licences/


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