Chemtrails ?

King Mob wrote: »

There are hundreds of these groups.

Are you going to suggest that no one believes or suggests the ridiculous version of the conspiracy?

Of course there are people who believe that

Doesnt make that list anymore accurate

I repeat

you dont need

1: Every airline and airforce in the world involved

2: By extension every government in the world involved

3: Every jet aircraft on the planet fitted with chemical sprayers involved

4: Every pilot and crew member ivolved

To be able to produce chemtrails

King Mob wrote: »

Yes you do if you are to produce them at the scale, spread and regularity that the vast majority chemtrail believers claim they are produced.

The conspiracy as presented requires huge amounts of people involved including huge swaths of those in charge.

Can you present a version of the theory that doesn't require these things or point to some one who does present such a theory?

Version ? Some of Your own linkies dont even require what you or others stating

Just look at the chemtrail ct that states it's added to the jet fuel ... You don't need millions and millions of people to pull that one out of the hat

King Mob wrote: »

All of the links I posted reference a theory that requires huge amounts of people involved.
If one does not, please explain which ones.


I have addressed that version here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100265425&postcount=50

So then if it's possible to do this conspiracy without the requires, lets take it one by one.
1. Every airline and airforce in the world involved

How do they prevent airlines and airforces all around the world from finding out about it?
If armchair detectives can find evidence for this conspiracy, then experts currently working in the industry and for an airforce can discover the same evidence. They could find even better and more conclusive evidence.

If they can't stop people from finding out about it, then why don't airlines or airforces who are not in on it, not do something about it? Why wouldn't they divulge this information?
Even then, what would prevent some person in said organisations from going rogue and divulging that information and evidence themselves?

You referenced posts that you think require all of the points I challenged ... Which is not the case

Plus you keep pulling numbers out of a head, millions and tens of thousands of people that needs to be involved ... That's what I call arm chair detective

King Mob wrote: »

Can you point to an example?

Why don't you adress point by point why you think

1: Every airline and airforce in the world involved

2: By extension every government in the world involved

3: Every jet aircraft on the planet fitted with chemical sprayers involved edit : this seems plausible why else have a nozzle other then fuel dumping

4: Every pilot and crew member ivolved

In this conspiracy theory

None of your sources you posted claimed as such ... If so I missed it and maybe you can be so kind to quote from these links what you think is relevant to the 4 points

You agreed with the poster that this is accurate so I would like to see how that is accurate

Also could you point out in more detail how this would involve millions and millions of people and trillions of dollars ?

weisses wrote: »

Why don't you adress point by point why you think

1: Every airline and airforce in the world involved

I have attempted to do so here:

King Mob wrote: »

So then if it's possible to do this conspiracy without the requires, lets take it one by one.
1. Every airline and airforce in the world involved

How do they prevent airlines and airforces all around the world from finding out about it?
If armchair detectives can find evidence for this conspiracy, then experts currently working in the industry and for an airforce can discover the same evidence. They could find even better and more conclusive evidence.

If they can't stop people from finding out about it, then why don't airlines or airforces who are not in on it, not do something about it? Why wouldn't they divulge this information?
Even then, what would prevent some person in said organisations from going rogue and divulging that information and evidence themselves?

weisses wrote: »

None of your sources you posted claimed as such ... If so I missed it and maybe you can be so kind to quote from these links what you think is relevant to the 4 points

You agreed with the poster that this is accurate so I would like to see how that is accurate

1. http://www.globalresearch.ca/chemtrails-the-consequences-of-toxic-metals-and-chemical-aerosols-on-human-health/19047

For more than a decade, first the United States and then Canada’s citizens have been subjected to a 24/7/365 day aerosol assault over our heads made of a toxic brew of poisonous heavy metals, chemicals, and other dangerous ingredients. None of this was reported by any mainstream media. The US Department of Defense [DOD] and military have been systematically blanketing all our skies with what are known as Chemtrails (also known as Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering).
...

Chemtrails do not dissipate. Rather, planes (fitted with special nozzles) release aerosols “lines” in the sky that do not evaporate. Multiple planes are deployed, flying parallel (or often “checkerboard” patterns) overhead;
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Military and commercial planes are involved in more than 60 secret operations. Last year, when I flew across the country, I saw a United Airlines jet (flying below us at about 37,000 feet) spraying a black aerosol that went for miles and miles across the sky. This clandestine program now includes aerosol-spraying planes in North America, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand [all NATO countries].

As the bits I have highlighted show, the first link details that the conspiracy is at least a decade old and was known about by the government, department of defense and military. It also outlines how commerical companies are involved. And it says that it is going on 24/7/365 in multiple countries.
And it specifies that it requires nozzles and specialise equipment in planes.

It also details further more people who'd have to be involved, such as the various doctors and medical companies who are covering up or not responding to how chemtrails are making everyone sick.

2. http://yournewswire.com/nasa-admit-to-spraying-americans-with-poisonous-chemtrails/

NASA’s own personnel have admitted that lithium, along with other chemicals, are intentionally being placed into our environment regularly.
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In fact, many nations are participating in our unwitting, forced vaccination, and the dumping of any number of attenuated viruses, chemical concoctions and other ‘chemtrails’ on our heads with dogged frequency.


Meanwhile, should the over-medicated start to actually figure out what is being done to them, the government has imposed gag orders on the National Weather Service (NWS) and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) who might easily refute the ridiculous claims of NASA.

Notably, every single person who works for NASA, the NWS or NOAA are paid with tax payer dollars.This means that we are paying to be medicated and poisoned.
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Spraying lithium into our skies, along with countless other bacteria, viruses, prions, parasites, fungi, carcinogens, toxins, hormone-altering drugs, anti-flora and anti-fauna, as well as gene-altering micro-dust is nothing more than bio-warfare against the world’s citizenry. You can call them chemtrails or something else, the effect is the same.

Same again, ticks all the boxes.

3. http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/the-government-coordinated-chemtrail-conspiracy-continues-unabated/

These folks are by and large completely unaware that their skies are literally being saturated, sometimes 24/7, with chemtrail chemicals.
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How is it that these chemicals being spewed by airliners, which are equipped to lay down such aerosolized chemical cocktails, go undetected by so many?

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And, there can be only one answer. The Federal Government has willfully engaged in a premeditated conspiracy to deceive the public. This conspiracy to both deceive and spray chemicals anywhere the government wishes has been going on for decades.

So I could go on. It would be easier for you to either address my points directly, or otherwise explain which of my links contain versions of the conspiracy that don't require the things on the list.

weisses wrote: »

Yes and now compare the parts you highlighted to the claim that was made

Many is not all

Where does it states all cabin crew is involved ? or All countries on Earth, All airlines etc etc

Ok then. Lets take this one at a time:
1. Every airline and airforce in the world involved

How do they prevent airlines and airforces all around the world from finding out about it?
If armchair detectives can find evidence for this conspiracy, then experts currently working in the industry and for an airforce can discover the same evidence. They could find even better and more conclusive evidence.

If they can't stop people from finding out about it, then why don't airlines or airforces who are not in on it, not do something about it? Why wouldn't they divulge this information?
Even then, what would prevent some person in said organisations from going rogue and divulging that information and evidence themselves?

If you can't provide a sensible alternative explanation for this, then it holds that for the conspiracy presented to be possible, it requires that all airlines and airforces are involved.
Can you provide such an alternative explanation?

Dohnjoe wrote: »

These long-lasting contrails (a contrail will last from a few seconds to a few hours) are produced over every country in the world and by every type of commercial airliner

That's because the longer lasting contrails are dependent on certain atmospheric conditions

Assuming the theory that governments are spraying people to be true, then every government in the world is spraying it's inhabitants, from every type of airliner in the world, for decades, during peace-time and war

That's a huge conspiracy involving an astronomical amount of people

You don't have to tell me that .. I'm no chemtrailer .

They can just add it to the jet fuel ... As some theories claim is done

It's only god's lines of coke...

If they really want to drug or add chemicals water would be no1 choice so as that's done already they don't need planes to do it.

Hi
I know that this is an old thread but I couldn't help ask if people today believe Chemtrails are real?
There is a lot of thing's happening since this thread started like all the geoengineering, HAARP and yes Chemtrails too. There's nothing Natural happening now regarding the weather. It's ALL fake! Look at South America, Mexico etc etc..All the hurricanes, Volcanoes All those poor people left to the mercy of FEMA which they've been working On for year's (that's another story!).

Scientists and other's in that field have been trying to come up with a solution for the Climate Change. They are blocking Off the Sun. Look here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/03/24/worlds-largest-artificial-sun-shines-brightly-first-time/

That is Not our Real Sun or Moon. Yet they show us this Sun now when people have already twigged so to speak but yet we are really none the wiser about it.
The weather is becoming predictable. The mornings start Off with a blue sky and before 10:15am you can see lot's of dull greyish clouds which are very very low down. Then the rest of the sky look's like a grey Blanket but what is actually strange is when you do catch a Glimpse of the blue sky then it's quickly covered up by cloud's. They can also brighten up the clouds!! It's very strange indeed.
As for Chemtrails I very much believe it!! There's quite a good few picture's of these plane's full of chemicals to be sprayed. Here: Just Google Inside the planes that chemitrail. Another Important thing worth looking into is Agenda 21! You can find Agenda 21 anywhere on Google. One of the plan's of Agenda 21 is DEPOPULATION of 95% of people!! Please Read it for yourselves! I mean who gets to play God and say which 5% will live! Also don't forget that Hanson Robotics will have Robots taking the place of humans also by doing humans work etc..Buckle up because were in for sometime!

xTanyax wrote: »

Hi
I know that this is an old thread but I couldn't help ask if people today believe Chemtrails are real?
There is a lot of thing's happening since this thread started like all the geoengineering, HAARP and yes Chemtrails too. There's nothing Natural happening now regarding the weather. It's ALL fake! Look at South America, Mexico etc etc..All the hurricanes, Volcanoes All those poor people left to the mercy of FEMA which they've been working On for year's (that's another story!).

Scientists and other's in that field have been trying to come up with a solution for the Climate Change. They are blocking Off the Sun. Look here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/03/24/worlds-largest-artificial-sun-shines-brightly-first-time/

That is Not our Real Sun or Moon. Yet they show us this Sun now when people have already twigged so to speak but yet we are really none the wiser about it.
The weather is becoming predictable. The mornings start Off with a blue sky and before 10:15am you can see lot's of dull greyish clouds which are very very low down. Then the rest of the sky look's like a grey Blanket but what is actually strange is when you do catch a Glimpse of the blue sky then it's quickly covered up by cloud's. They can also brighten up the clouds!! It's very strange indeed.
As for Chemtrails I very much believe it!! There's quite a good few picture's of these plane's full of chemicals to be sprayed. Here: Just Google Inside the planes that chemitrail. Another Important thing worth looking into is Agenda 21! You can find Agenda 21 anywhere on Google. One of the plan's of Agenda 21 is DEPOPULATION of 95% of people!! Please Read it for yourselves! I mean who gets to play God and say which 5% will live! Also don't forget that Hanson Robotics will have Robots taking the place of humans also by doing humans work etc..Buckle up because were in for sometime!

Haarp has been closed down for years now and couldn't possibly by used to control the weather or volcanos.

Agenda 21 does not say anything about depopulation. I say this with confidence because I have actually read it for myself. I don't think you have.

Could you provide some examples of these planes that contain the chemicals to be sprayed?
Several have been posted before, but they turned out to be nothing of the sort as the person never actually bothered to confirm them.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

It would all depend on the position of the plane, the position of the sun and the position of the person.

It would also depend on the distance between the aircraft thats causing the shadow and the cloud level on which the shadow is cast, greater distsnces will appear to have much longer lead times again depending on already mentioned factors, angle of sun etc

pfurey101 wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/Scramblemagazine/posts/2054986924527831

Hopefully can see this and some will change their minds!

Ya think? ... The type of mind that believes nonsense without good reason cannot be reasoned with, even in the face of concrete evidence, much less good reasoning...

el diablo wrote: »

Yes.

Before who delete's it?