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Project 2022

  • 07-05-2020 10:28pm
    #1
    MrMusician18
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    I'm wondering if anyone here has any idea how Trinity's Project 2022 is coming along? I'm doing some tracing and trying to track down C19 censuses. I know they were destroyed in 1922 but if there were any copies of the 1831, 41, 51 census around they'd fill in a lot of my gaps.

    Also did anyone know if any accessible, physical copies of marriages exist in Werburgh St that haven't been uploaded yet?

    Thanks!


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  • #2
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    We have some other threads here and in the History forum if you do a search, but essentially no. They've been short on detail.

    I seriously doubt there's any caches of significant census material not uncovered.

    Details for what exists for Werburgh St can be found on the RCBL parish register list.
    https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf

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  • #3
    KildareFan
    Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭KildareFan


    <I'm wondering if anyone here has any idea how Trinity's Project 2022 is coming along? I'm doing some tracing and trying to track down C19 censuses. I know they were destroyed in 1922 but if there were any copies of the 1831, 41, 51 census around they'd fill in a lot of my gaps.>

    You're probably already aware that any surviving copies of census records are on the NAI census site - just click on the year box. It would be a miracle if any other census records survive unless someone was walking past a skip when the Archives were turfing out the paper copies in the 1910s.


  • #4
    Earnest
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭Earnest


    KildareFan wrote: »
    <I'm wondering if anyone here has any idea how Trinity's Project 2022 is coming along? I'm doing some tracing and trying to track down C19 censuses. I know they were destroyed in 1922 but if there were any copies of the 1831, 41, 51 census around they'd fill in a lot of my gaps.>

    You're probably already aware that any surviving copies of census records are on the NAI census site - just click on the year box. It would be a miracle if any other census records survive unless someone was walking past a skip when the Archives were turfing out the paper copies in the 1910s.

    But the 1831, 41, 51 could be in the burned and shrivelled-up remnants. I'd be surprised if much of these could be reconstructed by 2022. However, there are some transcribed extracts in north Tipperary in NLI manuscripts which have been useful to me.


  • #5
    Waitsian
    Registered Users Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Waitsian


    There's a tonne of 19th Century census substitutes out there, a ridiculous amount. What would be great is if they were all on one website, or at the very least the paper records were in one building. We all know about the most common ones i.e. Griffiths, Tithe Applottments, church records etc but what about Estate Records or School rolls for example? That's just the tip of the iceberg. You can't recreate census records that were destroyed but they could compile any and all substitutes into a one stop shop. That would be worth doing. Is the will there? Or the money? Not for me to say.


  • #6
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,545 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Constructing a newbie-friendly record set from all the various estate papers would require a substantial amount of time and effort by - at the very least - experienced amateurs, if not professional genealogists.


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  • #7
    droimlis
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭droimlis


    mod9maple wrote: »
    There's a tonne of 19th Century census substitutes out there, a ridiculous amount. What would be great is if they were all on one website, or at the very least the paper records were in one building. We all know about the most common ones i.e. Griffiths, Tithe Applottments, church records etc but what about Estate Records or School rolls for example? That's just the tip of the iceberg. You can't recreate census records that were destroyed but they could compile any and all substitutes into a one stop shop. That would be worth doing. Is the will there? Or the money? Not for me to say.

    I thought the project was reconstructing records from copies which at the time would have been given to other Institutions around the world? could it be possible that those census records exist in a British library or the Vatican library? ....probably not as I'm sure we would have heard about them by now if they were


  • #8
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    It is about finding resources in other libraries but I seriously doubt there'll be any census records.

    I've mentioned before I know Strokestown has copies of their 1841/51 census returns because the local post office borrowed the originals and copied when the OAP came in, to assist with local applications.

    The coordination that would be required to source, collate and digitise estate records (in multiple different repositories) or school records (in the attics of past principals/county archive/old cupboards in the school) is just not there. The will or the money either.

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  • #9
    ath262
    Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭ath262


    I think most of the records in other archives, e.g. London etc, relating to the Irish census returns will consist of reports and statistics, some of these were published and others available already on Dippam/EPPI


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