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Nuclear power in Ireland

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    #92
    archer22
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    Where would the waste from it be dumped?

    In a Coillte forest somewhere at 3am I suppose!


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    archer22 wrote: »
    Where would the waste from it be dumped?

    In a Coillte forest somewhere at 3am I suppose!
    Oddly enough that's a great way to protect a nature reserve from humans.


    We could do what the Brits did and dump it in Beaufort's Dyke, along with the million plus tons of explosives left after WWii and sarin and tabun (both nerve gases) and phosgene, mustard gas and whatever you're having yourself. What could possibly go wrong ?


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    #94
    El_Bee
    Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    There is no chance of a nuclear power station being built in Ireland, so the discussion is irrelevant to reality. But it has prompted the usual claims that Ireland is some sort of third world banana republic, incapable of doing anything right.

    Cost overruns in infrastructural projects is a well known international phenomenon, not something peculiar to this country, nor to this era.

    https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1304/1304.4476.pdf

    Cost escalation and its causes
    On the basis of the first statistically significant study of cost escalation in transport
    infrastructure projects, in a previous article we showed that cost escalation is a
    pervasive phenomenon in transport infrastructure projects across project types,
    geographical location and historical period.

    More specifically we showed the following (all conclusions highly significant and most
    likely conservative):
    • Nine out of ten transport infrastructure projects fall victim to cost escalation
    (N=258).
    • For rail average cost escalation is 45% (N=58, sd=38).
    • For fixed links (bridges and tunnels) average cost escalation is 34% (N=33,
    sd=62).
    • For roads average cost escalation is 20% (N=167, sd=30).
    • For all project types average cost escalation is 28% (N=258, sd=39).
    • Cost escalation exists across 20 nations and five continents; it appears to be a
    global phenomenon (N=258).
    • Cost escalation appears to be more pronounced in developing nations than in
    North America and Europe (N=58, data for rail only).
    • Cost escalation has not decreased over the past 70 years. No learning seems to
    take place (N=111/246).


    Ah that's grand so, no reason to complain ever again.


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    ted1 wrote: »
    That’s a bit of a tale , how many commercial tidal did they ever sell or install?

    None - but they had several contracts to install them. They also had several working prototypes at several locations in Scotland, France and Canada. One of the contracts was €600m from the Canadian government. Its a bit of a mystery why they were shuttered when they were. Literally pulled the plug overnight. I was working with one of their IT on a 3 month job on a Thursday and everyone was made redundant Friday morning.
    As for making foreign companies rich. I’d say they made a loss on open hydro, about 280 million euro worth of losses

    I was talking about their engineers and researchers, not OH themselves.

    https://fora.ie/openhydro-liquidation-2-4257250-Sep2018/[/quote]

    280 million is a drop in the ocean - pardon the pun. We are paying more than that in fines to the EU.

    Their tech works. Some Irish government funding would have gone a long way.


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