Dead bodies left on trolleys in corridors.

It'd be interesting yo find out whose bodies are blocking up the system.
People the victim of crime, who cannot be released for burial yet?
People without known relatives to pay for the funeral or at least organise it?

Its been a mild winter, not much talk about vomiting bugs or superbugs to markedly increase the death rate amongst the old and infirm, so how come Waterford has ran out of space now?

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Admittedly I have no insider information on how a hospital "works" nor do I claim to be an expert on same, but I'm pretty certain how it's not supposed to work.


Coffins having to be kept closed due to body's decomposition from deaths that occured in a hospital in a supposedly first world country surely must not be the norm, please tell me I know that much about them?

My beef is not with the body being left out but with the comments about privatization, getting rid of unions, firing all the admins and management and then linking fecking putin in the thread like he's some hero. He's a multi billionaire who's more corrupt than all our politicians put together.

Are people really that thick that they think privatization of our health service will benefit the nation as a whole? you think 80 year old Mary down the road with bad hips and dementia will get good treatment when she hasn't 2 cents to rub together
Go to America and report back how good their level of care is when cash is added into the equation when it comes to health

omega man wrote: »

It should be run like any well run large complex organistion, as in with a functioning management system with responsible managers and accountable senior management.

What is your point exactly? Just because it’s not a profit making business doesn’t mean it can’t be managed efficiently like one.

Large complex organisation like Google or Amazon? they grow over time with more income to feed it. the health service is infinite in size, the nation takes no responsibility in their health, people eat too much, drink too much, smoke too much, no exercise, the health service can't keep up.

Drugs and advances in treatment extend life but doesn't necessarily improve the quality of it so with a aging and poor health nation they end up on long waiting lists. Hospitals have gotten so much busier in the past 10 years it's so hard to keep up

Rows Grower wrote: »

I have an idea how one particular hospital works having visited it recently with an elderly friend.

We entered the new facility in Kenmare, no receptionist was working at the new reception. There was a photocopied piece of A4 that directed us where to sit and wait.

After a short time the surgeon came out of his office and collected any letters of appointment he had not already collected.

I spoke to him afterwards and asked about the lack of receptionist and secretary, he told me it's been that way for years. He does the whole lot on his own.

I'm not even making this up, when we went back a couple of weeks later for the surgical procedure it was the exact same situation. He operated on my friend and when leaving him out collected the other appointment letters.

I spoke to him again afterwards when dropping back a gift and he told me there was a brand new hospital ward upstairs with state of the art equipment none of which had been used because they had no staff.

So they've gotten rid of the "useless" administration staff and left the doctors and nurses to get on with it. Isn't that exactly what people who want rid of the dead weight think should happen????

Satellite clinics for dealing with the drunks and junkies would free up room and resources.

dhaughton99 wrote: »

The 3 weeks of stories from maternity hospitals on liveline. Now that was shocking.

I didn't hear those but I can imagine.

KilOit wrote: »

My beef is not with the body being left out but with the comments about privatization, getting rid of unions, firing all the admins and management and then linking fecking putin in the thread like he's some hero. He's a multi billionaire who's more corrupt than all our politicians put together.

Are people really that thick that they think privatization of our health service will benefit the nation as a whole? you think 80 year old Mary down the road with bad hips and dementia will get good treatment when she hasn't 2 cents to rub together
Go to America and report back how good their level of care is when cash is added into the equation when it comes to health

Indeed. That said money hasn't really been an issue in the Irish health service for years, just the way it is allocated

The problem is that whenever the government tries to get cost under control, or exercise some restraint, the nurses, doctors, take industrial action and the public generally backs them.

Not only management, but health professionals have been creaming the system for years - at the expense of the public and their younger colleagues. The system won't improve until there's an honest conversion in Ireland about the worth of healthcare workers and that it's simply not sustainable for them to continue to essentially get away with naming their price.

Where there's no accountability, there is little that can be improved. If every task has a direct chain of command with responsibility falling on specific individuals, then things can get better.

Rows Grower wrote: »

I have an idea how one particular hospital works having visited it recently with an elderly friend.

We entered the new facility in Kenmare, no receptionist was working at the new reception. There was a photocopied piece of A4 that directed us where to sit and wait.

After a short time the surgeon came out of his office and collected any letters of appointment he had not already collected.

I spoke to him afterwards and asked about the lack of receptionist and secretary, he told me it's been that way for years. He does the whole lot on his own.

I'm not even making this up, when we went back a couple of weeks later for the surgical procedure it was the exact same situation. He operated on my friend and when leaving him out collected the other appointment letters.

I spoke to him again afterwards when dropping back a gift and he told me there was a brand new hospital ward upstairs with state of the art equipment none of which had been used because they had no staff.

That's because it's in Kenmare, it exists because JHR propped up previous governments, despite there being no justification or demand for it to be built and the equipment being there, but sure it worked because it got both the heir and his dopey sidekick elected later.

RandomName2 wrote: »

IT'S OKAY EVERYONE!

EVERYONE!

The HSE has announced that in University Hospital Waterford where bodies are decomposing and leaking onto the floor, that there is a new morgue planned.

Towards the end of 2019 work is expected to start, with a provisional timetable of 20 months to get it finished, provided that there's no delays.

So thats.. 3 years of rotting bodies in UHW. Hang in there, lads!

If a temporary solution is not in place by close of business tomorrow Harris should resign.

Rows Grower wrote: »

I have an idea how one particular hospital works having visited it recently with an elderly friend.

We entered the new facility in Kenmare, no receptionist was working at the new reception. There was a photocopied piece of A4 that directed us where to sit and wait.

After a short time the surgeon came out of his office and collected any letters of appointment he had not already collected.

I spoke to him afterwards and asked about the lack of receptionist and secretary, he told me it's been that way for years. He does the whole lot on his own.

I'm not even making this up, when we went back a couple of weeks later for the surgical procedure it was the exact same situation. He operated on my friend and when leaving him out collected the other appointment letters.

I spoke to him again afterwards when dropping back a gift and he told me there was a brand new hospital ward upstairs with state of the art equipment none of which had been used because they had no staff.

I have had two recent dealings with the hospital in waterford . both disaster's from the word go .
brother in law died suddenly early one morning recently , no one available to do PM so it was 3 days before it was done so this issue is a bit hard to listen too
second one . my mother was diagnosed with cancer in january and was sent to see a specialist , but actually only saw the assistant . We said she could go private but we were assured she would get the very same treatment as a public patient . We now know for sure that's b...sh.t . It was A complete f...up. lost files , wrong medication given but luckily spotted by chemist , waiting for follow up appointments but they were never made because some body was on holidays and no one to fill in .
Waterford hospital is like a mini version of the HSE , a complete mess right from top to bottom
somebody in a post earlier that a hospital cannot not be run like a business , well maybe take a look at the one's run like so and see how efficient they are