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Pattern change could herald a return to very cold weather

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  • #62
    Birdnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    The rest of the month looks like a bit of a snooze-fest now with steele grey skies and SC sheets giving days of nothingness in the way of discernible "weather":( - Will seem even more "dull" given the December we just had:(


  • #63
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Can't recall who said it but there is some theory about a cold start to winter tending to be followed by an average even short winter overall.


  • #64
    je55ie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭je55ie


    Anyone got anything positive to add about a cold reload happening, last few posts have been depressing to read! :(


  • #65
    Birdnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    jessie37 wrote: »
    Anyone got anything positive to add about a cold reload happening, last few posts have been depressing to read! :(

    At least you don't have the Flu coming on:(


  • #66
    200motels
    Registered Users Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭200motels


    jessie37 wrote: »
    Anyone got anything positive to add about a cold reload happening, last few posts have been depressing to read! :(
    No, just looking at various models and it's dull dull for the next 4 or 5 days, after that who knows it's too far out. I'm not an expert of the models just read MT'S daily forecasts at the top of the forum and you won't go wrong as to how the next week or so will go.


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  • #67
    je55ie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭je55ie


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    At least you don't have the Flu coming on:(

    Thats true :D


  • #68
    Pangea
    Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Mobhi1 wrote: »
    At this stage it looks like we're back to normal winter for the rest of the period, unfortunately. It's not like in December where any breeze off the sea or any showers that came gave snow - it seems more like normal where we're constantly looking for any little change that might "possibly" give us something.

    We are also looking for big changes, if a big change came it would mean another big freeze then any breeze off the sea or any showers that comes would give snow ;)

    Is there still a lot of uncertainty regarding the models? Is the next few weeks and February looking rather cold?


  • #69
    je55ie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭je55ie


    200motels wrote: »
    No, just looking at various models and it's dull dull for the next 4 or 5 days, after that who knows it's too far out. I'm not an expert of the models just read MT'S daily forecasts at the top of the forum and you won't go wrong as to how the next week or so will go.

    Thanks, I have been following MT was just hoping someone might spot something since that might liven up this thread... ah well


  • #70
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    The UKMO forecast upto February 15th is fairly good, no return to the cold weather that we saw last month.


  • #71
    Harps
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    Not even a hint of anything on the gfs right out to 384h, this high seems set to stick around for the rest of the month


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  • #72
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Hmmmm. If it gets any more boring, there's a danger that we might end up with Ireland's weather being described at Climate :D

    Always used to be the case that what happens here got described as weather, as in "shore, Ireland doesn't have a climate, it has weather". Beginning to look like that might be about to change for a while at least:D:D

    The only good thing about it is that I might get chance to get up on the roof to take the weather station down to sort out the rainfall recorder that's been stuck since before Christmas, but it's been too (wet, cold, windy, snowy, icy, add to suit) to think about climbing on ladders to get at the thing, especially with a mean dose of the flu as well.

    Means I can also have a go at the anemometer and wind direction unit to sort out the tail mods that were done before it went up, and maybe even make it higher to get it out of the roof effect that's very noticable on occasions.

    Steve

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #73
    Speak Now
    Registered Users Posts: 8,504 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Love the cold snowy weather but this high pressure is looking ace.
    After the last week this is going to be glorious :)


  • #74
    skipz
    Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭skipz


    Its all well and good for people who work indoors to be looking for snow and freezing conditions, but after the run up to christmas i hope it doesnt come around until next winter.

    Getting work is tuff as it is and another cold spell will boll0x me right up!



  • #75
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,637 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    mike65 wrote: »
    Can't recall who said it but there is some theory about a cold start to winter tending to be followed by an average even short winter overall.

    It was Philip Eden who said it. According to him the stats' show that winters which start off cold remaining so for the duration of the season are the exception rather the norm.

    Perhaps next year will prove to be the exception;)


  • #76
    Tornando9
    Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭Tornando9


    mike65 wrote: »
    Can't recall who said it but there is some theory about a cold start to winter tending to be followed by an average even short winter overall.

    From the New Scientist.

    What goes on in November is meant to tell you much about the dark months. If you get snow in November the winter will be mild for "the winter has cast its calf"



    Another old saying according to an elderly relative 87 yrs old.

    "November ice that will bear a duck, Winter will be full of rain and muck"


  • #77
    Mobhi1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Mobhi1


    nacho libre wrote: »
    It was Philip Eden who said it. According to him the stats' show that winters which start off cold remaining so for the duration of the season are the exception rather the norm.

    Perhaps next year will prove to be the exception;)

    This winter starting off cold was an exception in itself!


  • #78
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I'd just as soon take an old saying on trust as any new fangled modeling marlarky.


  • #79
    4Sheets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭4Sheets


    ..Winter will be full of rain and muck

    Maybe in some a parts of Kerry but not so far


  • #80
    pistolpetes11
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Glimmer of hope in the latest runs ?

    Left my machine in work and can't post the charts !

    Darkman what's your view on the situation as she stands ?

    There has been a complete lack of charts and chart discussion lately , what's going down .

    Su sort it out , give us something even if it's a "no there's not a hope lads" ! Some fancy chats and Synoptics are sorely needed in here !


  • #81
    Harps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    Gfs has the high further west which opens the door for cold in England but still nothing much for us

    gfs-1-132.png?18


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  • #82
    dexter647
    Registered Users Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭dexter647


    pistolpetes11 wrote: »
    Glimmer of hope in the latest runs ?

    Left my machine in work and can't post the charts !

    Darkman what's your view on the situation as she stands ?

    There has been a complete lack of charts and chart discussion lately , what's going down .

    Su sort it out , give us something even if it's a "no there's not a hope lads" ! Some fancy chats and Synoptics are sorely needed in here !

    I couldn't agree more...in these dark times we need hope and if there ever was a time for ramping it's now:D....


  • #83
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    Yeah give us hope, any chance we will get back to double digit positive temperatures anytime soon?


  • #84
    pistolpetes11
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Harps wrote: »
    Gfs has the high further west which opens the door for cold in England but still nothing much for us

    gfs-1-132.png?18

    Was just over on the Chelsea boards forum for my troubles and there was doom and gloom talk over there ! Sorted that out and said I would mosey back over here to the weather forum and the person with the last post was min and I let a little sigh :p thinking must be bad news so !

    But harps that chart is a trend and the trend is our friend , hopefully it keeps moving away to allow us back in the cold, as the charts can't get the position on this high nailed down all is not lost!

    I await black briar to come in and say it's a brutal chart !:p


  • #85
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    pistolpetes11 wrote: »
    Was just over on the Chelsea boards forum for my troubles and there was doom and gloom talk over there ! Sorted that out and said I would mosey back over here to the weather forum and the person with the last post was min and I let a little sigh :p thinking must be bad news so !

    But harps that chart is a trend and the trend is our friend , hopefully it keeps moving away to allow us back in the cold, as the charts can't get the position on this high nailed down all is not lost!

    I await black briar to come in and say it's a brutal chart !:p

    :pac:

    Hey, you know me, I'm just a warm person who supports United :p


  • #86
    pistolpetes11
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Min wrote: »
    :pac:

    Hey, you know me, I'm just a warm person who supports United :p

    It just keeps getting worse for you ! Bring on the cold I say !


  • #87
    Flan_Da_Man125
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Flan_Da_Man125


    finally some glimmer of hope!! i was getting really tired nothing happening! :mad:
    high needs to keep moving west in order to allow cold air into ireland ya??


  • #88
    Musicman2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭Musicman2000


    pistolpetes11 wrote: »
    Was just over on the Chelsea boards forum for my troubles and there was doom and gloom talk over there ! Sorted that out and said I would mosey back over here to the weather forum and the person with the last post was min and I let a little sigh :p thinking must be bad news so !

    But harps that chart is a trend and the trend is our friend , hopefully it keeps moving away to allow us back in the cold, as the charts can't get the position on this high nailed down all is not lost!

    I await black briar to come in and say it's a brutal chart !:p

    The problem is lads the jet is up north so it wont allow the high ridge towards greenland, and thats what we really need to get a decent cold blast. I would take that chart with a pich of salt, and most of the cold uppers are really for England:(


  • #89
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,637 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Musicman2000 wrote: »
    The problem is lads the jet is up north so it wont allow the high ridge towards greenland, and thats what we really need to get a decent cold blast. I would take that chart with a pich of salt, and most of the cold uppers are really for England:(

    Yeah. I feel like taking a break from model watching. I've run out of straws to clutch.


  • #90
    ednwireland
    Registered Users Posts: 14,284 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    rain last night, sheet ice all over the roads this morning, can we have our mild weather back, please ? ;)

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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  • #91
    pauldry
    Registered Users Posts: 6,876 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Tornando9 wrote: »
    From the New Scientist.

    What goes on in November is meant to tell you much about the dark months. If you get snow in November the winter will be mild for "the winter has cast its calf"



    Another old saying according to an elderly relative 87 yrs old.

    "November ice that will bear a duck, Winter will be full of rain and muck"


    Another one I heard is

    November ice will bear a duck Winter will be full of rain and cold as....


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