Dosing Cattle

Yearlings may not have built up immunity. They won't have got much exposure to worms when on the teat the summer before or in the shed over the winter!

Also if bought in stock you don't know, they may never have been dosed.

A good rotational grazing system will help with keeping worm burdens lower than say set stocking, as cattle are moved onto fresh grass every few days.

Any point in dosing stronger cattle that have been out for a few weeks for fluke? Haven't been exposed to much wet land yet and they got a good shot when housed.

I said wrote: »

All out and dosed today.ivermectin injection used not happy with pouron I've used the last couple of years.

where these dosed already? why would you dose them at turn out?

severeoversteer wrote: »

land is high in copper here so never had to bother with that thank god
one less job to do !
going to test the foliage this year to determine if that is low in anything
have all my trace elements up to scratch

Ya, one of the disadvantages of a soil PH of 8 and molybdenum.

Count Mondego wrote: »

Ya, one of the disadvantages of a soil PH of 8 and molybdenum.

power the can out and should lower ph and release more copper

can makes soil acidic

Sami23 wrote: »

But what about P and K indexes if you go with just CAN ?

he has a separate issue

his ph is too high due to molybdenum in the soil
high ph ties up copper in the soil making it unavailable to the plant

he can apply p and k if he wants also

but im just saying that applying a decent amount of can will help to lower the ph

the ph is too high and will affect grass growth just as much as if it was too low

Sami23 wrote: »

Thanks very well explained.

On a separate issue, would applying a good bit of CAN actually lower your P & K indexes or not affect them ?

no it wouldn't really affect the p and k indices

however if you spread a lot of can you need to follow up with lime on a regular basis
out from that its fine

can is lime hungry

the biggest thing that ruins p and k in fields is taking silage off them and not returning the slurry to the same field, very costly mistake

out from that the only demand for p and k is the leaching from rain and the offtake in beef and or milk exported from farm due to grazing

Count Mondego wrote: »

I am no expert, but I would have though high Mo is not responsible for the high PH. On the edge of the burren so high limestone area which accounts for the PH. The Mo ties up the copper in the soil making it unavailable to the plants.

I suppose I should have said the reverse, high Mo is as a result of the high Ph

but definitely the thing to do is power out the CAN, it will reduce ph and lessen the strength of Mo uptake by animals

reducing the Mo uptake will reduce any copper disorders in ruminants



it is an unusual problem in the mineral soils I have, I am on limestone land and my ph is good, I struggle with my calcium levels though


your other elements in the soil will also be restricted by the high ph so you'll have to apply can and you should see ph levels drop