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  • Registered Users Posts: 5 JC1203


    That's really good news. 3 years is more than enough to suffer the symptoms you describe. I've only had it for 6 months and nexium seems to manage it pretty well, but it has placed huge restrictions on my life. No tea, chocolate or alcohol. Hard to sustain when everyone around me is indulging. Think I'll go the surgery route sometime soon. Keep us posted on your progress.


  • Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭davidd24


    Chocolate was a big no no for me too, tea in small moderation is ok, drink lots of cold water, i cannot stress enough how important this is... at night elevate your head, i sleep on three pillows, was quite hard to get used to but it DOES work. you have to stick to it thou, Old habits die hard.

    The big one for me is that i used to go to the gym four days a week and any sort of excercise brought on this breathlessness and pain... once i have the Op ill start back slow and hopefully in time back to four days a week!

    Thanks for the posts of support. Ill keep you posted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 JC1203


    Robbo, Do you recall if it was Professor mc enena that did your surgery in the Galway Clinic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭davidd24


    Anyone got any advice on how to ease the vomiting feeling?
    I'm literally sitting here wretching, i think ill have to go back to the doc..


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 JC1203


    Afraid I can't as that is not one of my symptoms. I would definitely go back to the doc.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19 tazmission


    Congratulations. Its a life changing operation!

    I,ve been diagnosed with hiatus hernia also , but they said it was small !
    They gave me ppis , my symptoms were not bad till i started taking those, is it possible that people can have bad reaction to them ?
    I,ve asked a doctor about surgery but he says someone with a small hernia doesn't need an op , hes a crap doc to communicate with and ive lost confidence in him big time.
    My symptoms are :
    red raw throat that feels like its going right down to center of sternum and feeling of something stuck in throat though does not affect swallowing as in food etc.
    also a pain in chest that radiates around the back , the symptoms are pretty much 24/7 and its affecting my gym routine.

    I know people cant give out medical advise as such , but did those who had the Operation have any of these symptoms ?
    maybe i should change doctor also as he doesn't seem to care and gives me medication after medication , which i don't like to take !

    thanks for response


  • Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭davidd24


    That's how my hernia began was all of those symptoms and gradually got worse.
    It took my doctor over a year to diagnose me and send me forward for scope and stuff.
    Get a second opinion from another doctor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 tazmission


    davidd24 wrote: »
    That's how my hernia began was all of those symptoms and gradually got worse.
    It took my doctor over a year to diagnose me and send me forward for scope and stuff.
    Get a second opinion from another doctor.
    Thanks for your reply , I just read your posts , glad you are getting an op,
    Did they say you have a big hernia ?
    I wonder why my doc dismisses the op ?
    Does he think it's the old angle grinder and mesh op !!?
    It is a head wreck


  • Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭davidd24


    Originally, i was told the same as you, i had a relativley small hernia and id more than likely be on ppi for the rest of my life which i didnt accept,but i gave a chance, after a few weeks symptoms were getting gradually worse and worse even on ppi. dosage was increased beyond max and a second scope was ordered, irejected two further scope tests and a 24 hour ph study because my throat was destroyed by acid and was sent forward to surgeon..


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 tazmission


    davidd24 wrote: »
    Originally, i was told the same as you, i had a relativley small hernia and id more than likely be on ppi for the rest of my life which i didnt accept,but i gave a chance, after a few weeks symptoms were getting gradually worse and worse even on ppi. dosage was increased beyond max and a second scope was ordered, irejected two further scope tests and a 24 hour ph study because my throat was destroyed by acid and was sent forward to surgeon..

    wow, i had the scope about a year and a half ago , they said there was no irritation.
    It was about 3 weeks after using ppis i got worse , and the doc gave me all different types and for my sore throat he keeps giving antibiotics without checking my blood for infections !
    One more thing i have and wonder if you have it , in the morning i wake up with a funny taste in my mouth and sort of sour tummy . once i get up and get active its not so bad but always there but i get a funny taste on my tongue, it a bit coated but a kind of metallic taste and even a bit salty !
    did you have that ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭davidd24


    Everybody is different, I used to have a woken up at night with severe pain.
    But no salty taste


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 tazmission


    davidd24 wrote: »
    Everybody is different, I used to have a woken up at night with severe pain.
    But no salty taste

    true , i wake up in the am with the feeling of a hot poker lodged in my sternum out through my back.
    so annoying, when is your op ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭davidd24


    Pre Op is 23rd May


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    I'm glad I discovered this thread.

    I've had a hernia in my stomach since I was 18 (30 now). Was originally prescribed 20mg Nexium, after bing scoped and treated for H.Pylori.

    After symptoms got worse, I was put on to 40mg. Steadily throughout the years, the symptoms again got worse. Crippled with Bloating.

    Anyone here ever suffer from sulphur burps?

    Again, I was sent for scoping, and was told that it was possible I was taking too much in line of the nexium etc, so they put me on 60mg of Zoton for 2 weeks, reducing down to 30mg, which I was to take every second day. Needless to say, this hasn't worked in the slightest.

    I asked about the possibility of getting the Op down, and was told that I can't elect to have the procedure done. I'd have to be very bad, and start bleeding from my stomach, or staying awake at night through reflux to be even considered. Now both my GP and the lads in Sligo Hospital are useless anyhow.

    A work colleague of mine has recently had the op done, and i'm inspired to start pushing again to have it done. I don't want ot have to be taking Zoton etc for the rest of my life, or being crippled with acid reflux either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 tazmission


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    I'm glad I discovered this thread.

    I've had a hernia in my stomach since I was 18 (30 now). Was originally prescribed 20mg Nexium, after bing scoped and treated for H.Pylori.

    After symptoms got worse, I was put on to 40mg. Steadily throughout the years, the symptoms again got worse. Crippled with Bloating.

    Anyone here ever suffer from sulphur burps?

    Again, I was sent for scoping, and was told that it was possible I was taking too much in line of the nexium etc, so they put me on 60mg of Zoton for 2 weeks, reducing down to 30mg, which I was to take every second day. Needless to say, this hasn't worked in the slightest.

    I asked about the possibility of getting the Op down, and was told that I can't elect to have the procedure done. I'd have to be very bad, and start bleeding from my stomach, or staying awake at night through reflux to be even considered. Now both my GP and the lads in Sligo Hospital are useless anyhow.

    A work colleague of mine has recently had the op done, and i'm inspired to start pushing again to have it done. I don't want ot have to be taking Zoton etc for the rest of my life, or being crippled with acid reflux either.

    yeah i hate taking the meds, especially when i might as well be taking smarties !
    as for the meds , i know they stop stomach acid , which we need to digest food , and undigested or slowly digested food can cause reflux , hello !
    as for Docters , mine is a joke also .
    my symptoms , dont really feel like reflux or regurgitating , its constant sore throats and burning all the way down and like i said hot poker in sternum. my doc just shrugs and gives me tablets.
    How is your work mate after Op ?
    I think i will go the same route , i cant believe you have suffered since you were 18 .


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 tazmission


    davidd24 wrote: »
    Pre Op is 23rd May

    thats good , i hope you get some relief soon


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    tazmission wrote: »
    yeah i hate taking the meds, especially when i might as well be taking smarties !
    as for the meds , i know they stop stomach acid , which we need to digest food , and undigested or slowly digested food can cause reflux , hello !
    as for Docters , mine is a joke also .
    my symptoms , dont really feel like reflux or regurgitating , its constant sore throats and burning all the way down and like i said hot poker in sternum. my doc just shrugs and gives me tablets.
    How is your work mate after Op ?
    I think i will go the same route , i cant believe you have suffered since you were 18 .

    Ya, the hot poker in the sternum rings more than a few bells! Anything hot then, I can feel it slide down my foodpipe to my stomach - not pleasant.

    Workmate is grand now. He's 4 weeks over it, not taking any meds at all, but is still on the liquified food. He's down about 1.5 stone in weight, but sure, I wouldn't mind losing that, although I'm not overweight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 tazmission


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Ya, the hot poker in the sternum rings more than a few bells! Anything hot then, I can feel it slide down my foodpipe to my stomach - not pleasant.

    Workmate is grand now. He's 4 weeks over it, not taking any meds at all, but is still on the liquified food. He's down about 1.5 stone in weight, but sure, I wouldn't mind losing that, although I'm not overweight.

    yeah, i went to nutritionist , ate the so called right foods. no real difference.
    Its annoying , how did your friend go about getting the op ?
    I think i will go straight to specialist.
    Initially i went to physio with back pain and sore chest and she mentioned gallbladder or hernia , my doc would not refer me to specialist , he more of less thought it was all in my head i think ,so i had to go private and got scope they said hernia. great Doc i know!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    tazmission wrote: »
    yeah, i went to nutritionist , ate the so called right foods. no real difference.
    Its annoying , how did your friend go about getting the op ?
    I think i will go straight to specialist.
    Initially i went to physio with back pain and sore chest and she mentioned gallbladder or hernia , my doc would not refer me to specialist , he more of less thought it was all in my head i think ,so i had to go private and got scope they said hernia. great Doc i know!

    As far as I know, he went for the scope, and then they arranged an acid test, where they stuck a tube up his nose, and down into the food pipe, to measure the amount of times reflux would happen. Based on the results, he was deemed a good candidate for the surgery, and went ahead.

    I have the name of his doctor got now, who performed the surgery, so I may ask to be referred up to him (Galway), and if the GP fobs me off again, He may just be told to gather up my files, cos I'm moving to a GP who gives a fúck


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 tazmission


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    As far as I know, he went for the scope, and then they arranged an acid test, where they stuck a tube up his nose, and down into the food pipe, to measure the amount of times reflux would happen. Based on the results, he was deemed a good candidate for the surgery, and went ahead.

    I have the name of his doctor got now, who performed the surgery, so I may ask to be referred up to him (Galway), and if the GP fobs me off again, He may just be told to gather up my files, cos I'm moving to a GP who gives a fúck

    yeah i,m thinking the same with my doc , i know of a good GI in Dublin.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭D-FENS


    Hi

    I’m going into Blanch for a Hernia repair next month, the consultant said there is possibly a need for Nissen Fundoplication (I have Barrett’s oesophagus also)
    I cannot get hold of anyone over there to tell me how long the recovery time will be, need to tell work, anyone got a rough idea of best and worst case scenario?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 tazmission


    D-FENS wrote: »
    Hi

    I’m going into Blanch for a Hernia repair next month, the consultant said there is possibly a need for Nissen Fundoplication (I have Barrett’s oesophagus also)
    I cannot get hold of anyone over there to tell me how long the recovery time will be, need to tell work, anyone got a rough idea of best and worst case scenario?

    Thanks

    Hello , I know someone that had the op , and they said 2 -3 weeks off work , but everyone recovers differently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Luco Zademann


    I only read some of the posts but it seems many have had surgery, I have GERD diagnosed a few years back, as folks will probably know it's a gastric condition (acid reflux basically I think) I was diagnosed with a rather large hiatus hernia a few months ago and had a follow up consultation with a consultant, I'm a med card patient. Surgery was never mentioned to me, can't recall if I even asked about it, I may have. I was essentially told: you have a hiatus hernia, no need to come back again, goodbye.....hmmm. I've been on Nexium for several years now. Guess I simply continue to take it. But shouldn't I have the option of surgery if I have a hiatus hernia rather than having to be on pills for life? Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Mmmm_Lemony


    Every case is different, but the specialist I went to thankfully gave the option for surgery. I can only suggest going back to your GP and talking to them about it. There may be a reason they ruled out surgery, but if not, they should address the steps necessary.

    Fundoplication for GERD


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    JC1203 wrote: »
    Robbo, Do you recall if it was Professor mc enena that did your surgery in the Galway Clinic.
    It was. Top job and a nice guy to boot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Luco Zademann


    Every case is different, but the specialist I went to thankfully gave the option for surgery. I can only suggest going back to your GP and talking to them about it. There may be a reason they ruled out surgery, but if not, they should address the steps necessary.

    Fundoplication for GERD

    Thanks. Yeah, I cannot figure out why surgery wasn't an option put forward, will go back to my GP to discuss it further though, personally I see no reason why I should be on pills for life when you can have what is more or less a run of the mill op to rectify the problem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 tazmission


    Thanks. Yeah, I cannot figure out why surgery wasn't an option put forward, will go back to my GP to discuss it further though, personally I see no reason why I should be on pills for life when you can have what is more or less a run of the mill op to rectify the problem.

    I think , they dont think its a serious condition because many have hiatus hernias but have no symptoms. But everyone is different.
    I went to the Doc many times with chest and upper back pain and he more or less said it was bad back or muscle strain etc, so my physiotherapist said my back seemed fine and it was perhaps hernia or gallbladder, I said it to my doc and he more or less ignored it!
    so i had to get it diagosed myself .
    Also my physio told me about a girl who had bad upper back and shoulder pain and she was diagnosed with small hiatus hernia and they said they wouldnt operate , she demanded it and now she is fine , no pain.
    Mine feels like upper back spasm between shoulder blades on the left.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Smokie399


    I'm a male now 28 years old and I've been suffering these symptoms since I was 19. Started with chest pain and extreme bloating constantly feeling like vommiting after eating and the worse possible heartburn you could ever imagine. Was poppin Rennies every 10 mins but no relief. Went to doc and he put me on zoton and scheduled an endoscopy as he suspected acid reflux. Worked absolute wonders for a while but a year passed and I began to deteriorate again and was still waiting for an endoscopy. After severe chest pains and a fright that I had suffered a heart attack I bit the bullet and went for A+E and they scheduled the endoscopy the following week to reveal a hiatal hernia. In the years that have passed they'd altered my ppi tabs every few months but any time I mention surgery to doc he rules it out just says lose weight etc change diet. Personally I think this is a sentence and in the last few weeks I've been getting shortness of breath aswell (dunno if anyone else has had this) After over 8 years of this I honestly don't know how long more I can suffer it. I want the op but it scares me that i may not be able to swallow and have choking sensations 😮. But I don't want to continue the way I am either. If they continue to refuse me the op then I'm going to go to uk and see if I can get it there. It depresses me to think I may have to spend the rest of my life on tabs every day when there may be a chance I don't need them. Taking those tablets for so long also must have its own side affects


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Smokie399 wrote: »
    I'm a male now 28 years old and I've been suffering these symptoms since I was 19. Started with chest pain and extreme bloating constantly feeling like vommiting after eating and the worse possible heartburn you could ever imagine. Was poppin Rennies every 10 mins but no relief. Went to doc and he put me on zoton and scheduled an endoscopy as he suspected acid reflux. Worked absolute wonders for a while but a year passed and I began to deteriorate again and was still waiting for an endoscopy. After severe chest pains and a fright that I had suffered a heart attack I bit the bullet and went for A+E and they scheduled the endoscopy the following week to reveal a hiatal hernia. In the years that have passed they'd altered my ppi tabs every few months but any time I mention surgery to doc he rules it out just says lose weight etc change diet. Personally I think this is a sentence and in the last few weeks I've been getting shortness of breath aswell (dunno if anyone else has had this) After over 8 years of this I honestly don't know how long more I can suffer it. I want the op but it scares me that i may not be able to swallow and have choking sensations 😮. But I don't want to continue the way I am either. If they continue to refuse me the op then I'm going to go to uk and see if I can get it there. It depresses me to think I may have to spend the rest of my life on tabs every day when there may be a chance I don't need them. Taking those tablets for so long also must have its own side affects

    This is my line of thinking too. These tablets effectively stop your body from doing what it does naturally, which is produce acid. Food then takes longer to get broken down. It can't be good to be on these tablets long term. I'm on them now over 12 years, but I simply can't do without them. I really want to have the op done as well.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Smokie399


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    This is my line of thinking too. These tablets effectively stop your body from doing what it does naturally, which is produce acid. Food then takes longer to get broken down. It can't be good to be on these tablets long term. I'm on them now over 12 years, but I simply can't do without them. I really want to have the op done as well.



    I know exactly where you're coming from I'm also at the stage where I can't do without them. And I'm tired of waking up every morning with that sickish feeling in my stomach. And now the shortness of breath. It's a poor quality of life to have to tolerate in this day and age. I wudnt know what it feels like to be normal again


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