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Picard 1x10 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,891 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    That little Seven/Raffi scene had prior form in TNG ;)



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Stark wrote: »
    That little Seven/Raffi scene had prior form in TNG ;)


    ?? Was that really them holding hands?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Reflecting a few weeks later I think the whole Data thing Was confusing? Why did he want to be switched off ? Why wasn't his consciousness transferred?
    He suddenly has a human brother? His " father " claimed he had no kids ?
    Plus Stewart too old and they just threw away the marriage with Beverly and kid that was written about in the novels. Poor


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,891 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    ?? Was that really them holding hands?

    The guy does a Youtube channel with TNG gag reel clips spliced with scenes from the actual show. If you look more closely at the above clip, you can see that Picard is also wearing slippers ;)

    This one is also a good one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgPy2kU9nEk


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Why did he want to be switched off ?

    They wrote it as Data wasn't happy being kept in limbo, never dying, just existing meaninglessly....he wanted to embark on the final exploration of humanity, death.
    Why wasn't his consciousness transferred?

    There doesn't seem to be an in-universe explanation, unless I too missed it? (It could have mentioned that it was just a simulation of Data based on memories extracted from B4 & that it wasn't enough to create a sentient copy of Data in the real world, but I don't think they went that route?) I can only guess Spiner wasn't overly keen on recurring as Data very often, & preferred to play the role of the brother, sans makeup etc.
    He suddenly has a human brother? His " father " claimed he had no kids ?

    Was that specifically stated on screen somewhere?
    Plus Stewart too old and they just threw away the marriage with Beverly and kid that was written about in the novels. Poor

    I'm not bothered at all by the exclusion of book content, no point getting bogged down in canon/non-canon etc. They're best ignored imo, they've always been largely weak.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,891 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Shamelessly stolen from Ireland Sinn Féin Fans (https://www.facebook.com/groups/iresimpsonsfans)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Stark wrote: »
    Shamelessly stolen from Ireland Sinn Féin Fans (https://www.facebook.com/groups/iresimpsonsfans)

    I am more fascinated that your auto correct put in Sinn Fein for Simpsons :pac: I mean they both ave some good laugh out loud TV moments, but still.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,891 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    It was deliberate ;) Not sure what % of the membership base of that Simpsons fan group are Ógra Sinn Féin but the ones that are are extremely vocal. Nearly every second meme has some republican slant to it, not to mention the swarm that descends if someone goes against the nationalist socialist consensus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    ?? Was that really them holding hands?

    Just saw it there, made me laugh out loud


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Thargor




    Always been a massive fan of the Mr Plinkett reviews but that is just unwatchable crap, as in not a single laugh, just rambling boring gibberish.

    Looks like everything modern Star Trek touches just turns to sh1t.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,723 ✭✭✭Evade


    I watched it yesterday and thought it was a pretty standard Plinkett review with a couple of factual errors.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I like RLM and subscribe to their channel, but there's no way I'm watching an hour and a half diatribe. Who has time for that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,723 ✭✭✭Evade


    Because you have it on while doing something else like painting, cooking, cleaning, or World of Warships in my case.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I like RLM and subscribe to their channel, but there's no way I'm watching an hour and a half diatribe. Who has time for that?
    Neither would I usually but the Mr Plinkett reviews have always been worth making an exception for, the way they absolutely nailed George Lucas and everyone else was totally unique, this is just so bad its a shock. Mike and Rich bitching about the individual episodes was hilarious though.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Thargor wrote: »
    Neither would I usually but the Mr Plinkett reviews have always been worth making an exception for, the way they absolutely nailed George Lucas and everyone else was totally unique, this is just so bad its a shock. Mike and Rich bitching about the individual episodes was hilarious though.

    The last couple of Plinketts weren't great either, so if it's as bad as you say, it's possible the RLM crew have just lost interest or motivation. IMO the channel has kinda moved beyond Plinkett, nor does he even feature in their "Half in the Bag" series anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Smacruairi


    I'm half way through it. It's quite comprehensive, maybe overly so. But it's vocalising the problems with the series quite well.

    I actually find their best of the worst series to be their best!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I just finished this episode.

    I really enjoyed the show but this episodes was filled with things that didn't make sense and the "twist" was no twist at all -it was obvious from the moment the golem was shown that Picard would end up in it. What I cannot figure out is what is the point of that?

    Picard's illness had very little presence in the show until the battle. And why make him an android if he is not going to have android powers and just going to carry on being the same? Why even give him the illness at all?

    Picard himself just shrugged the whole thing off.

    It was just nonsense.

    Raffi and Seven's romance could have been left for season 2 instead of some rushed moment of holding hands. They hadn't even had scenes together in past episodes.

    However at least the fact that the limitations on the body mean the android thing can just be ignored in the future.

    Harry Treadaway's character just disappeared after he was grabbed by the Synths. And why did he lie to the sister about what he doing with the grenades? Seems like she'd be all for taking out the beacon to stop more powerful machines showing up.

    And why did bad Soji let him go?

    The story itself was great just some problem and Riker leading cavalry was unexpected (I had not seen Frakes in the opening credits) and glorious. There was too many ships on both sides and it is a pity there wasn't a few moments of a battle but good stuff anyway.


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