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January 2018 Boards weather forecast contest

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The highest MAX so far appears to be 13.3 at Valentia on 2nd. I only checked the usual warmest spots, so if this holds up we may find a different value posted at end of month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Ballyhaise and Markee Castle both - 5.5 yesterday.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    -6.7c reported by ME at Mount Dillon this morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Here's where things stand after the first week ...

    IMT was 4.7 which is 0.6 below average; the weekend more than compensated for a generally mild first five days.

    MAX is 13.4 and during the week MIN was --5.5 but has since fallen to --6.7 this morning (see above posts).

    PRC was 134% of normal. While all eleven sites were above normal, only Malin Head at 243% and Belmullet at 170% were appreciably above that average, in fact all nine of the others were below it and averaged 114%.

    SUN averaged 160% of normal (962/600) and most of that work was done over the weekend. Despite this, Casement was slightly below its average (only Sunday 7th had much sunshine there). Normal appears to be around 1.7 hours a day on average at this time of year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭pauldry


    And coming in on the inside catching everyone unawares is Athenry with -6.8c


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    pauldry wrote: »
    And coming in on the inside catching everyone unawares is Athenry with -6.8c


    Could be attributed to those low lying fields.


  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Joe Public wrote: »
    Could be attributed to those low lying fields.

    Joseph, they are taking you away!:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    We interrupt your slumber for this second week update ...

    IMT now at 4.3(4) after a somewhat chilly second week that averaged 4.0 (1.2 below normal).

    MAX remains 13.4 and MIN --6.8

    PRC now 125% of normal, the second week averaged 116% and was almost the opposite of week one with heavier amounts in the south, below average in the north.

    SUN fell to 113% with this past week only 76% (456/600), the southwest was mostly overcast all week, slightly above normal values from the northwest and east.

    Getting ready for Wednesday night's possible assault on the bonus values and locations which are 53 Mace, 84 Knock.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭pauldry


    A temp of 13.7c was reached in Moore Park yesterday


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Well, I finally got around to doing this update ... after three weeks ...

    IMT is 4.5 C (range is 3.8 Mullingar to 5.7 Shannon) and the third week averaged 4.8 which was 0.4 below normal. It must have come up fairly sharply on Sunday 21st as the IMT for the day was 7.8 C). I think this might bounce up and down but stay in the 4's probably a bit higher at the end than now, perhaps 4.7 or 4.8 would be favoured (by latest guidance).

    MAX now 13.7 and MIN remains --6.8.

    PRC is now up to 158% as the third week was a soaker at 224% of normal. Even with 50% in the last ten days this will finish around 120% so most of us will be hoping that it stays rather dry.

    SUN is now closer to average at 107%, the past week had 95% (572/600). This is about where it might finish up as there will be some sun at times and it doesn't take much in January.

    If no further change to max and min, and my estimates are close, also bonus settled by earlier events, then highest score I can see would be Con around 87 but some of you will be close and might edge past Con if your PRC or SUN forecasts are better than my estimates. Mickger844posts has almost the same total score from my estimates (this could all change of course, just saying). NormaL would score about 80 and could edge up to meet Con if the IMT is closer to 5.1 or above. Lots of fairly decent looking scores anyway. As a group we are quite good at this, the power of many minds sort of a thing ...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭pauldry


    13.8c Roches Pt.

    Tomorrows Januarys final attempt at a max. Last few days too cool


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Update through four weeks ...

    IMT on 5.4 with this past week quite mild, 8.1 C (+2.8 deg). Should finish close to 5.2 C.

    PRC still very high at 153% with this past week near 140%. Likely to finish near 150%.

    SUN limping home near normal, 103% now with this past week at 92% (553/600). May rebound to above 105%.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    IMT on first glance has finished at 5.4 C but I am going to check that tomorrow when the MS comes out as I thought it should drop a little from 28th value. Yesterday the IMT was 4.6 so perhaps that wasn't enough to push it down more than a second decimal. Anyway, probably was 5.4, will confirm it.

    Will check MS also for PRC and SUN, my estimates are 150% and 105%. Any value much over 140% for PRC would trigger minimum progression rules anyway, as the highest forecast we had was 134% (waterways).

    Scoring should be available some time tomorrow evening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The Monthly Summary confirmed all values used except for SUN which came in higher, and I realized why after the fact, when I estimated the impact of the last three days I overlooked the 29th which had about five hours at all sites. So the three-day period had about 170% of normal sunshine, boosting the overall average to 110% of normal.

    This will generally change all scores up or down by one point. So here's the revised table.


    January 2018 scoring

    FORECASTER ________ IMT_MAX_MIN_PRC_SUN ___ Bonus ________ TOTALS

    Confirmed values _____5.4_ 13.8_--6.8_152_110__53 Mace_84 Knock

    waterways ____ (-1) __ 18 _ 19 _ 17 _ 14*_ 08 ___ 03 01 _ 02 00 _ 82-1=81
    Tae laidir ____________20 _ 15 _ 15 _ 13*_ 07 ___ 04 00 _ 04 00 ____ 78
    mickger844posts ______19 _ 17 _ 18 _ 06*_ 09 ___ 03 01 _ 02 00 ____ 75

    NormaL __________ 22 _ 17 _ 18_ 02*_ 08___03 01 _ 04 00____ 75

    Pauldry______________23 _ 15 _ 17 _ 05*_ 08 ___ 03 00 _ 02 00 ____ 73
    MrSkinner ___________ 24 _ 19 _ 10 _ 08*_ 09 ___ 02 00 _ 01 00 ____ 73

    Con Sensus __________18 _ 17 _ 18 _ 06*_ 08 ___ 04 00 _ 02 00 ____ 73

    Dacogawa ____ (-1) ___18 _ 19 _ 19 _ 04*_ 07 ___ 04 00 _ 01 00 _72-1=71
    Jpmarn _____________ 14 _ 17 _ 17 _ 12*_ 06 ___ 02 00 _ 03 00 ____ 71
    dasa29 _____________ 21 _ 17 _ 12 _ 10*_ 08 ___ 01 00 _ 00 00 ____ 69
    sunflower3 __________ 19 _ 16 _ 12 _ 10*_ 07 ___ 03 00 _ 01 00 ____ 68
    Rikand ______________21 _ 17 _ 12 _ 01*_ 08 ___ 02 01 _ 04 00 ____ 66
    Bsal ________________20 _ 00 _ 18 _ 12*_ 08 ___ 04 00 _ 01 00 ____ 63
    DOCARCH ___________ 14 _ 17 _ 17 _ 00 _ 10 ___ 04 00 _ 01 00 ____ 63
    M.T. Cranium ________ 13 _ 15 _ 08 _ 08*_ 08 ___ 03 01 _ 04 00 ____ 60
    Kindred Spirit. ________20 _ 01 _ 18 _ 07*_ 06 ___ 03 00 _ 04 00 ____ 59
    sryanbruen __________ 17 _ 14 _ 08 _ 06*_ 06 ___ 03 01 _ 01 00 ____ 56
    Lumi _______________ 16 _ 17 _ 03 _ 06*_ 06 ___ 03 00 _ 03 00 ____ 54
    Rameire _____ (-3) ___ 19 _ 16 _ 01 _ 08*_ 06 ___ 03 00 _ 02 00 _55-3=52
    john mac ____________20 _ 01 _ 11 _ 04*_ 08 ___ 01 01 _ 01 01 ____ 48
    sdanseo _____________11 _ 15 _ 00 _ 03*_ 10 ___ 04 01 _ 01 00 ____ 45
    200motels ___ (-25) ___18 _ 12 _ 19 _ 02*_ 05 ___ 04 00 _ 01 00 _61-25=36
    Joe Public ___________ 00 _ 18 _ 00 _ 03*_ 09 ___ 02 00 _ 03 00 ____ 35
    JCXBXC ____ (-20) ____16 _ 18 _ 00 _ 06*_ 06 ___ 03 01 _ 04 01^_54-20=34
    BLIZZARD7 ___ (-2) ___00 _ 14 _ 00 _ 01*_ 08 ___ 01 01 _ 04 00 _29-2=27

    ____________________________________________________________

    * Minimum progression rule was necessary for PRC, highest forecast was 134%, did not qualify to limit boosted scores (131 to 137 would have done so).

    Scoring for max wind and location was based on 4 points for wind values and 1 for correct location, disregard discussion below forecast entries as that was based on a different scoring assumption. Nobody qualified for superbonus scoring (one did but was capped at 8 points by later entry than events, ^symbol indicates one point not counted when 8 points reached).

    Assuming all other variables are confirmed by MS, the SUN scoring is based on 105% and will be adjusted where necessary after final reporting.

    Actual forecasts

    FORECASTER ________ IMT _MAX _MIN _PRC _SUN ___ Max winds and gusts

    MrSkinner ___________ 5.3 _13.7 _--5.8 _115 _115 ___ 49 Malin ___68 Malin
    Pauldry______________5.2 _14.3 _--6.5 _108 _101 ___ 50 Malin ___75 Mace

    NormaL _____________ 5.1 _13.5 _--7.0 _100 _100 ___50 (*) ____ 80 (**)

    rikand ______________ 5.0 _13.5 _--6.0 _090 _120 ___ 58 Mace ___85 Sherk
    dasa29 _____________ 5.0 _13.5 _--6.0 _120 _100 ___ 45 Sherk __ 55 Malin
    Tae laidir ____________4.9 _14.2 _--7.3 _130 _094 ___ 53 Malin ___82 Mace
    john mac ____________4.9 _12.9 _--5.9 _105 _098 ___ 46 Mace ___70 Knock
    Kindred Spirit. ________4.9 _12.9 _--7.0 _112 _092 ___ 50 Malin ___80 Bel
    Bsal ________________4.9 _12.8 _--7.0 _125 _102 ___ 53 Bel ____ 71 Mace
    mickger844posts ______4.8 _13.5 _--7.0 _110 _115 ___ 56 Mace ___72 Mace
    sunflower3 __________ 4.8 _13.4 _--6.0 _120 _095 ___ 55 Malin ___68 Malin
    Rameire _____ (-3) ___ 4.8 _13.4 _--4.9 _115 _089 ___ 55 Malin ___72 Val

    Con Sensus __________4.7 _13.5 _--7.0 _110 _100 ___ 52 Malin ___ 75 Malin

    Dacogawa ____ (-1) ___4.7 _13.7 _--6.9 _105 _097 ___ 52 Malin ___ 69 Malin
    waterways ____ (-1) __ 4.7 _13.7 _--7.1 _134 _100 ___ 51 Mace ___ 75 Bel
    200motels ___ (-25) ___4.7 _13.0 _--6.9 _100 _084 ___ 54 Malin ___70 Val
    sryanbruen __________ 4.6 _13.2 _--8.0 _110 _090 ___ 50 Mace ___70 Malin
    Lumi _______________ 4.5 _14.1 _--8.5 _110 _090 ___ 51 Malin ___79 Sherk
    JCXBXC ____ (-20) ____4.5 _13.6 _--9.0 _110 _090 ___ 50 Mace ___ 84 Knock
    DOCARCH ___________ 4.3 _14.1 _--7.1 _085 _110 ___ 52 Malin ___69 Malin
    Jpmarn _____________ 4.3 _13.5 _--6.5 _125 _090 ___ 58 Bel ____ 78 DubA
    M.T. Cranium ________ 4.2 _13.3 _--8.0 _115 _119 ___ 55 Mace ___80 Malin
    sdanseo ____________ 4.0 _13.3 _--9.8 _103 _111 ___ 53 Mace ___70 Bel
    Joe Public ___________ 2.9 _13.6 _--9.4 _102 _115 ___ 57 Bel ____ 78 Malin
    BLIZZARD7 ___ (-2) ___1.7 _14.4 _-13.2 _090 _120 ___ 60 Mace __ 86 Mace

    ____________________________________________________________

    Congrats to waterways, tae laidir and mickger844posts for leading the way in the first contest of 2018, generally good scoring results for most.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Final scoring now posted, earlier table was correct other than one point adjustments for a higher outcome for SUN.

    Everything finished above normal and for IMT and PRC above all of our forecasts. Only seven SUN forecasts were above the outcome. And while our consensus on mean wind speed was good, the high value of the gust was above all but two forecasts (a third was on the money but entered after that event, most of the penalty for this occurred in the overall late rap).

    So as it now says above, congrats to waterways, tae laidir and mickger844posts for leading the way, and also to Mr Skinner and Pauldry for coming closest to the IMT. This helped them to join the above three in beating or equalling Con Sensus although NormaL eclipsed all but the top three this month.


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