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12-06-2019, 19:50   #256
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They do,because i knowm places it happened,same places used throw calves into tanks back in 80s aswell when my dad worked there




Thing is i am a farmer,and know full well the tracibility issues and know what is going on as regards cheating the system


This is before i mention what geos on in meat factories as my job brings me in and around killing halls (i went 6 weeks without eating meat over one incident i seen).....irish agri is good and safe etc....but ethically some seriously shady practices go on too....try and bury head in sand and pretend its all rosy in garden,but its not
Nope.
Very little shady stuff regarding traceability goes on. And that that does needs to be reported.

You had to go back to the 80’s to back up your statement showed allot.

Being around a killing hall isn’t for everyone, doesn’t mean what goes on is wrong. Many people couldn’t stand watching Surgury but doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
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12-06-2019, 19:58   #257
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Nope.
Very little shady stuff regarding traceability goes on. And that that does needs to be reported.

You had to go back to the 80’s to back up your statement showed allot.
The shooting calves happened in march lad?,i pointes out the thing in 80s to show its going on with generations?

You can rest assure tracibility and tagging is a joke as regards sheep....i put several hundred through my hands most years and worked in yards where factory buyer told young lads to make up numbers for sheep missing tags

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I doubt very much cattle are supposed to be alive and roaring hanging up by the back leg beside other already killed cattles,and some lad had to come along and try a second time to kill em....this happens several times a day by all accounts

To.me the above is unethical and unacceptable to the extent i couldnt amd wouldnt eat meat for ages after it. (Also i now delibertely try eat all my own meat now aswel-i know this isnt realistic for most people)

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The shooting calves happened in march lad?,i pointes out the thing in 80s to show its going on with generations?

You can rest assure tracibility and tagging is a joke as regards sheep....i put several hundred through my hands most years and worked in yards where factory buyer told young lads to make up numbers for sheep missing tags



I doubt very much cattle are supposed to be alive and roaring hanging up by the back leg beside other already killed cattles,and some lad had to come along and try a second time to kill em....this happens several times a day by all accounts

To.me the above is unethical and unacceptable to the extent i couldnt amd wouldnt eat meat for ages after it. (Also i now delibertely try eat all my own meat now aswel-i know this isnt realistic for most people)
Why did you do about it ?

We have a neighbor used to dealmin cull cows, often see dead cows abkut the place sometimes for weeks. Few calls to the department and he cleaned up his act.

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They do,because i knowm places it happened,same places used throw calves into tanks back in 80s aswell when my dad worked there Thing is i am a farmer, and know full well the tracibility issues and know what is going on as regards cheating the systemThis is before i mention what geos on in meat factories as my job brings me in and around killing halls (i went 6 weeks without eating meat over one incident i seen).....irish agri is good and safe etc....but ethically some seriously shady practices go on too....try and bury head in sand and pretend its all rosy in garden,but its not

So are you a vegan and a farmer with livestock. How's that work out?

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Brian_ & gozunda in another thread about vegans. Posting all day long.

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Ye must have the two smallest farms in Ireland.

Gozunda - I beg of you, stop typing ‘but there you go’ in your posts. If I got €1 for every time you typed it out I could buy all the avocados in South America.
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Ye must have the two smallest farms in Ireland.

Gozunda - I beg of you, stop typing ‘but there you go’ in your posts. If I got €1 for every time you typed it out I could buy all the avocados in South America.
They must be toy farms with plastic cows and sheep.
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Why did you do about it ?

We have a neighbor used to dealmin cull cows, often see dead cows abkut the place sometimes for weeks. Few calls to the department and he cleaned up his act.
I done nothing tbh....whats the pint....dept to best of my knowlege have a inspector in factory killing lines??...whats the point if he/she turns a blind eye...just bycott it at the shelf is handier


.but only time i did report something was for a lad with a shed of animals and dung (like literally silage was black coming out of "pit") being fed to em....and kinda got vibe it was a waste of time tbh
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So are you a vegan and a farmer with livestock. How's that work out?
Except im not a vegan (have never claimed to be),


But do see what they say as mostly valid points and tbh i prefer to cut down on meat/dairy by and large use my own produce (same for veg) but tbh sometimes its handy to run to chipper for snak box etc....basically im too lazy/not into food/different tastes enough to seek out veganism.....wish i was better person tbh
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Really??? Complete bullcrap. Btw I did not call anyone here a 'bitch'. However - you called your vegan 'friend' a bitch if you remember! You also funnily enough call yourself electro~bitch and yes that is "apt" imo given your level of vicious and frankly nasty comments.

Heres you calling one of your vegan friend(?) a 'bitch'


Lol and those few othet comments against for example this - absolute vicious ****e dripping with bile.



The anger and nastiness and personal comments are all yours electro~bitch. And more importantly complete and utter horse****e and untrue - and all of that just because you do not agree with what I post in defence of farming and those who chose to eat meat as part of their diet. Then you get upset about a meme someone posts wtf? Yes you and those usual nasty and puerile vicious comments can be seen for what they really are.

Btw as you quoted it - this is what I replied to the first part of the above puerile crap.



So that is correct - I don't like your tone or the pathetic comments. But you know what I dont care eitherway as I expected no better tbh. And no I dont care if you are a vegan or whatever.
Dude I've been defending farming here, I've barely seen you saying anything substantive about farming, it's just this sort of furious ranting against what you're now calling plant advocates.

That first paragraph is nonsense too "I didn't call you a bitch, I'm just saying that bitch is an apt term for you" okey dokey.

I wasn't upset or worked up or whatever about that meme, I was bored by a tired joke being barfed in to a thread.

As I said I was pretty amused to see your name popping up in the thread, it's funny seeing you call anyone who responds to you angry, vicious etc when it's impossible to read your posts in anything than the voice of a man with steam literally coming out of his ears. However I seem to personally get under your skin to the point where you're seeming genuinely unhinged rather than amusingly, incoherently and impotently worked up over nothing so maybe take your own often repeated advice and pop me on ignore? You're going to give yourself a stroke.

I'll keep you off ignore myself because your posts are funny and it's nice to see the rehabilition work you do for the public image of vegans. We should give you commission really!
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Dude I've been defending farming here, I've barely seen you saying anything substantive about farming, it's just this sort of furious ranting against what you're now calling plant advocates.
That first paragraph is nonsense too "I didn't call you a bitch, I'm just saying that bitch is an apt term for you" okey dokey.I wasn't upset or worked up or whatever about that meme, I was bored by a tired joke being barfed in to a thread.
As I said I was pretty amused to see your name popping up in the thread, it's funny seeing you call anyone who responds to you angry, vicious etc when it's impossible to read your posts in anything than the voice of a man with steam literally coming out of his ears. However I seem to personally get under your skin to the point where you're seeming genuinely unhinged rather than amusingly, incoherently and impotently worked up over nothing so maybe take your own often repeated advice and pop me on ignore? You're going to give yourself a stroke.
I'll keep you off ignore myself because your posts are funny and it's nice to see the rehabilition work you do for the public image of vegans. We should give you commission really!
Lol. You do write some complete utter rubbish.

Btw you called yourself electro~bitch or are you denying that as well?

Multiple vicous petty nasty little personal posts full of bile directed at little old me but nothing to do with the thread and all over several pages. You think that's not going to be called out lol?

Yeah you're obsessed and even though it's not a nice thing to say and to quote directly "you're going to give yourself a stroke".

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The mental home seems to be missing a patient!
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^The mental home seems to be missing a patient!
^^^^^^^^ More bs from the "opinionated vegatable eaters" of the OPs thesis?

You really are the gift that just keeps giving. Attack farmers, attack those who are not vegan and make derisory comments about the disabled. Fairly sick tbh.

Then none of that is surprising tbh. But you couldn't feking make it up either. The level of eejitery in this comment takes some beating.

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Brian_ & gozunda in another thread about vegans. Posting all day long.

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Ye must have the two smallest farms in Ireland.

Gozunda - I beg of you, stop typing ‘but there you go’ in your posts. If I got €1 for every time you typed it out I could buy all the avocados in South America.
You could buy even more avocados if you got €1 for all the times he has said ‘I’ve nothing against vegans or people who don’t want to eat meat’
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^^^^^^^^ More bs from the "opinionated vegatable eaters" of the OPs thesis?

You really are the gift that just keeps giving. Attack farmers, attack those who are not vegan and make derisory comments about the disabled. Fairly sick tbh.

Then none of that is surprising tbh. But you couldn't feking make it up either.
Mate you keep posting comments and deleting em after a while when noone bites and try again with something different


What your upto here is obvious
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Mate you keep posting comments and deleting em after a while when noone bites and try again with something differentWhat your upto here is obvious
Why the snark? What's wrong with that post? Dont like it? Tbh all I see is more bs replies from angry posters?

But no need - I didnt get back to your post as the internet signal can be poor.

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Except im not a vegan (have never claimed to be),
But do see what they say as mostly valid points and tbh i prefer to cut down on meat/dairy by and large use my own produce (same for veg) but tbh sometimes its handy to run to chipper for snak box etc....basically im too lazy/not into food/different tastes enough to seek out veganism.....wish i was better person tbh
Ok you are not a 'vegan' and you farm. Imo a lot of that which has been written about farming on this thread is pure rubbish tbh. A whole load of posters have had to point this out. Being vegan does not provide some divine understanding of farming. And from other threads its obvious that much of the rubbish spouted about farming relates to the US and elsewhere.

What you personally choose to cut down or otherwise is your own business imo. But I find it a bit odd that you link morality (with what you think you should be eating - not that has anything to do with anything btw) and believe that might make you a "better person". Especially as you farm livestock. Just seems your work appears to be at odd with your opinions and views about farming. For me I'd find that very strange tbh.

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