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1930s-60s electoral registers gone from DCLA website

  • 09-07-2020 8:48pm
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    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I hadn't noticed until today but they've even removed the 1937/38 register now. :mad:

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,600 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    I hadn't noticed until today but they've even removed the 1937/38 register now. :mad:

    Was that not removed 4 years ago when the DPC over-acted?

    The >100 (at that time) are still there

    http://databases.dublincity.ie/burgesses/advanced_new.php


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Initially, they left the first year up 37-38.

    I've edited the title to reflect the ones I mean.
    The 1908-1915 period are still there, as L1011 says, but they are of limited use.

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,600 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Probably realised that the DPC's overreach covered that too.

    Should be -50 years (if even - its public data) like other countries.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭ath262


    I thought they removed them ages ago - Internet Archive for the page titled "Electoral Lists 1937-1964" dated 30th November 2016 shows 'The Dublin City Electoral Lists 1937-64 have been taken down from this site.'


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I must be misremembering it.

    It's a PITA. Gilbert Library has not yet reopened.

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,600 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I have been battering the INA to death since Lockdown started for a non-genealogy project; and have developed the worst need for the wall-o-Thoms in the Gilbert Library.

    I've got about two hundred addresses to look up (potentially multiple years per address) over a ~110 year period!

    With unlimited time (unlikely - I'm guessing we'll get 90min slots maybe) I would also want to figure out what is the first year the 'current' format Dublin directories started, its between the mid 40s and the mid 60s - and skim through the more useful trades directory for a specific category or two.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Ha!

    I've emailed both DCLA and Fingal Archives this evening asking when they'll be reopening.

    I want to check the census microfilms in the latter for some houses I think are missing from 1911. I know the NAI is open but Fingal more convenient.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,300 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    L1011 wrote: »
    I've got about two hundred addresses to look up (potentially multiple years per address) over a ~110 year period!

    Ancestry have Thom's Directories from 1847 to 1947 if you're not already aware.
    Might be good given the number of records you're after.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,600 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    AskAboutIreland have OK coverage til 1943 FOC, just appalling or no OCR. Might be able to do some work with those two but I can work faster with the physical books

    I need a lot of 50s and 60s before it resumes its coverage patchily in 65


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,107 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    And knowing Mary Bloggs lived on the same street as Peter Pepper in 1930 and were both over 18 (meaning they are over 100 now) is a breach of privacy how?

    Surely this is not what the data protection legislation was for?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    spurious wrote: »
    And knowing Mary Bloggs lived on the same street as Peter Pepper in 1930 and were both over 18 (meaning they are over 100 now) is a breach of privacy how?

    Surely this is not what the data protection legislation was for?

    In fact, the voting age was 21 until the early 1970s.
    They only went up to 1965 as well, which means the youngest people on them would be 86 now.

    It was a massive over-reach by the DPC and I'm not sure I'll ever forgive them. Electoral registers can be sold: there is no presumption of privacy.

    I foresee this being a bigger problem for genealogy as we progress through the 20th century records, which will become easier to find, read, digitise, etc. These things will make data mining easier and may be used to stop online access.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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