BusConnects Dublin - Big changes to Bus Network

Considering we have some of the world's highest paid bus drivers a bit if healthy competition could be a good thing

Can we just note that when the 46A and the 39A is going to be removed, Dublin is going to be BusDisconnected by all these pointless routes, like stated on page 389?

You must acknowledge that both The B-Spine & The E-Spine gives me a huge benefit in bus connectivity because I live between those 2 spines in South Dublin.

If both of those spines are offering 24 hour routes for their Spines in the near future. I wholeheartedly agree with the positive comments posted here about the network redesign project that the latter of the 2 networks on offer to me and everyone else who lives here will be provided with a vastly superior bus service within this part of South Dublin. These new routes will be much better as opposed to the former which only mostly ends around midnight during every night of the week (apart from some of the weekend Nitelink routes of course).

I never suggested that. My comment was in reply to the previous post which did suggest it.

Those pay increases were well below the rate of inflation. When inflation is running at 8% and you get a 3% pay "rise" you're effectively getting a 5% pay cut.

Well, tolerance to these negative factors (you call them the reasons) is also measured of how big the reward is. The more disadvantages of work there are, the bigger the expectations (wages).

Just a quick note that the housing thing at Dominick needs to be sorted out before launching the 44A.

It's only 3 times a day, 06:35, 07:30, and 17:28. Why not round it to 17:30 then 18:30?

I know the 44 is a very long route for some people to use for travel or commuting purposes. I have not travelled the whole length of the route myself as I have only travelled on some parts of it between Dundrum & Westland Row and between O'Connell St & Drumcondra before Covid.

However I don't understand the logic in how your proposal for the 44a would work in reality without an appropriate level of funding from the NTA. The NTA & Dublin Bus would probably say to you from either an email or social media post that they wouldn't even have the resources to even run the route properly as they are prioritising new electric buses and drivers for BusConnects instead. The NTA CEO Anne Graham even said recently that the agency has been struggling with significant levels of under funding for strategic infrastructure projects when used for bus & rail projects right around the country.

The entire length of the 44 in my view has the structure of looking very much like a high frequency spine route in all but name.

Although it's existence doesn't justify what the other spine routes in BusConnects provide in when you look at similar routes around Dublin. To put this into context; a large part of Dublin's legacy bus routes are currently structured to have a similar length like the 44. Although a lot of these other routes of similar lengths to this route, including older radial routes in recent years, have or currently offering a much higher level of frequency to people who live around the GDA. That is not sustainable for a modern capital city Dublin. The 44's own frequency offered right now is really a joke compared to the other bus services.

This is why I think BusConnects was the main issue was trying to address in how it was going to become a much stronger network in the near future. The old bus network in Dublin over the years has had a real lack of focus in how it can provide a sustainable bus service to it's inhabitants while it was secretly creaking under the cracks. It needed a big kick up the backside in how it was going to provide a much better service for the people of Dublin and it's surrounding areas.

And we are seeing some of those improvements taking place very slowly around some areas of the capital with some great success stories that could see great potential in future. The rollout of the O route very soon in my view is going to become a very crucial indicator in how it will become a success or a failure for other PT users in Dublin. If the O route has similar levels of success as to what was achieved for the N4 at this point in time and compliments other modes of PT really well within the capital. It will be the start of a extremely huge rebirth for PT users in Dublin in the near future.

dublinman1990>> I think it's really important here if the NTA thinks that taking the bus is not the only thing in Ireland. Let's take Carrickmines and Laughanstown LUAS stops. There are 4 stops in total, of which 2 are in service and 2 are out of service and left abandoned. I think NTA's budget for BusConnects here is useless, as requesting more money from the Government will put Ireland in more and more debt, which we already spent €2bn on the new Children's Hospital! So, I think the Government is going crazy on the money here without noticing it.

trellheim>> Again, the housing issue at Dominick needs to be sorted out first before launching the 44A. What is the point of a LUAS bridge? The Green Line/Red Line section is rigged anyway as too much people just think it is a good idea to put their bloody feet on the tracks while a tram is coming and the Gardaí wont even do something, and the Red Line trams' honk instead of ringing the bell every 25 minutes, but to improve that more €€€ needs to be spent to make that happen. Ireland itself is a very high crime-rate country, take for example the riots that happened in November, it's heard that we lost 3 PAs doing the C-spine and 1 LUAS tram was burnt down. Too bad that the NTA, TFI, Dublin Bus, Gardaí, and all these services just co-op to make this not happen again. Everything that comes in here €€€ is required.

I think generally here we need to realize that nothing comes for free, and also, we are already too much in debt. I don't wanna put this into a financial debate but I think we need to realize the costs of everything.

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So the shortage of bus drivers is evidence that they haven't received adequate pay increases but the shortage of electricians is evidence that they have received good pay increases?