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View Poll Results: What impact will the sun's deep minima have on the future climate?
Climate getting progressively cooler through next solar cycles 273 43.54%
No impact 138 22.01%
Global warming is here to stay 113 18.02%
Calm before the solar storm of 2012-2013 103 16.43%
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12-02-2019, 16:34   #721
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12 days spotless in a row, running at similar levels to last year so far...



Current Stretch: 12 days
2019 total: 26 days (60%)
2018 total: 221 days (61%)
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16-02-2019, 01:03   #722
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Using spaceweather's rather unrealistic recording method, 2019 has already exceeded 2018 spotless days record.

Spotless Days
Current Stretch: 15 days
2019 total: 29 days (63%)
2018 total: 221 days (61%)
2017 total: 104 days (28%)
2016 total: 32 days (9%)
2015 total: 0 days (0%)
2014 total: 1 day (<1%)
2013 total: 0 days (0%)
2012 total: 0 days (0%)
2011 total: 2 days (<1%)
2010 total: 51 days (14%)
2009 total: 260 days (71%)
2008 total: 268 days (73%)
2007 total: 152 days (42%)
2006 total: 70 days (19%)
Updated 15 Feb 2019

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16-02-2019, 10:05   #723
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It's funny that the extreme weather the last number of years is always related, ( as far as the IPCC and media are concerned ) to Anthropocentric Climate change, the Sun is not added to the equation and never will because the corrupt IPCC can not now accept any other forms of science because they feel that it's no longer up for debate and Co2 is the cause and won't even peer review anything that contradicts this theory because it's unlikely you could disprove the Co2 argument because you can't no more than you can actually prove it.

The IPCC relate rising Co2 to weather extremes and relay that as proof, "see we told you" Co2 goes up weather extremes = we were correct but you could also argue weather extremes = caused by low solar activity.

There is evidence to suggest that in the 1700's that low solar activity caused a lot of extreme weather events too.

The media won't comment much on the cold experienced this year in the Northern Hemisphere but are only too delighted to comment about heatwaves in Australia.
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16-02-2019, 12:21   #725
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Could indeed be true but the media will never buy it because the IPCC will claim it's junk science and that it does not come from climate scientists.

Or if they did acknowledge it, perhaps when half the planet is frozen they will say it's temporary and we'll roast in hell when temps come back up because of that O'l Devil, Co2.

Here's the real killer, because they said the science is solid about Co2 they won't allow any other evidence contract their theory that Co2 is causing the planet to warm at an alarming rate, to them it is not a theory.......
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16-02-2019, 12:26   #726
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I laughed when I read this quote.

“I hope global warning will be overridden by this effect, giving humankind and the Earth 30 years to sort out our pollution,” Zharkova told Sky News, adding that any possible downward impact on global warming will last until 2050s when the Sun's two magnetic waves become active again. “We have to be sorted by that time and prepare everything on Earth for the next big solar

It's as if Sky News told her " now remember what I told you, you have to mention Global Warming or we won't run the story"
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19-02-2019, 13:41   #727
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Could indeed be true but the media will never buy it because the IPCC will claim it's junk science and that it does not come from climate scientists.

Or if they did acknowledge it, perhaps when half the planet is frozen they will say it's temporary and we'll roast in hell when temps come back up because of that O'l Devil, Co2.

Here's the real killer, because they said the science is solid about Co2 they won't allow any other evidence contract their theory that Co2 is causing the planet to warm at an alarming rate, to them it is not a theory.......
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I laughed when I read this quote.

“I hope global warning will be overridden by this effect, giving humankind and the Earth 30 years to sort out our pollution,” Zharkova told Sky News, adding that any possible downward impact on global warming will last until 2050s when the Sun's two magnetic waves become active again. “We have to be sorted by that time and prepare everything on Earth for the next big solar

It's as if Sky News told her " now remember what I told you, you have to mention Global Warming or we won't run the story"

So the scientist is correct when she says that the change in solar radiation could lead to a mini-Ice Age, but she is wrong when she says that this only gives us a short window to deal with the global warming caused by carbon dioxide?
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19-02-2019, 21:08   #728
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So the scientist is correct when she says that the change in solar radiation could lead to a mini-Ice Age, but she is wrong when she says that this only gives us a short window to deal with the global warming caused by carbon dioxide?
Yeah probably because it was a BBC interview they probably insisted she acknowledge Global warming and to say that it's real etc etc.

Or she said it to gain respect/credibility with the climate alarmists, Corrupt IPCC etc.

If she came out and said global warming was BS the BBC would have ridiculed her and IPCC call her a lunatic and that her science was junk science.
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19-02-2019, 21:26   #729
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The thing I find most intriguing about all of the "global cooling" talk it that it was only a couple of years ago that anyone who even tried to discuss the possibilities of solar induced cooling would have been dismissed as a crank or a "denier".
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19-02-2019, 22:25   #730
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The thing I find most intriguing about all of the "global cooling" talk it that it was only a couple of years ago that anyone who even tried to discuss the possibilities of solar induced cooling would have been dismissed as a crank or a "denier".
Yes but she didn't deny global warming and this is a quote from the article.

I hope global warning will be overridden by this effect, giving humankind and the Earth 30 years to sort out our pollution,” Zharkova told Sky News, adding that any possible downward impact on global warming will last until 2050s when the Sun's two magnetic waves become active again. “We have to be sorted by that time and prepare everything on Earth for the next big solar"

So she fully admitted global warming is real where as previous scientists may not have and were ridiculed, remember the IPCC no longer accept any views or so called scientific evidence to contradict the global warming because in their warped minds whether they believe it or not the establishment says it's real and that's the only thing that matters.

In other words , the IPCC can not now say maybe they were wrong because that would discredit them but they are already discredited after the climate gate scandal when even their own internal emails between colleagues admitted they didn't think it was real but it was all down played and the media bought it.

Look at all the rubbish the media come out with , every couple of months you hear " climate scientists bla bla bla" no matter how ludicrous it sounds the media go with it because it's a story and the media always love sensationalist headlines.

Remember the article in the British times was it that said something like , " by the year 2000 Children won't know what snow is" ?
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Yeah probably because it was a BBC interview they probably insisted she acknowledge Global warming and to say that it's real etc etc.

Or she said it to gain respect/credibility with the climate alarmists, Corrupt IPCC etc.

If she came out and said global warming was BS the BBC would have ridiculed her and IPCC call her a lunatic and that her science was junk science.

I find this difficult to believe.

The simple answer is that she is telling it all as she sees it, both the cooling effect in the short term and the short term interruption to global warming that it brings.
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19-02-2019, 23:14   #732
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Yes but she didn't deny global warming and this is a quote from the article.

I hope global warning will be overridden by this effect, giving humankind and the Earth 30 years to sort out our pollution,” Zharkova told Sky News, adding that any possible downward impact on global warming will last until 2050s when the Sun's two magnetic waves become active again. “We have to be sorted by that time and prepare everything on Earth for the next big solar"

So she fully admitted global warming is real where as previous scientists may not have and were ridiculed, remember the IPCC no longer accept any views or so called scientific evidence to contradict the global warming because in their warped minds whether they believe it or not the establishment says it's real and that's the only thing that matters.

In other words , the IPCC can not now say maybe they were wrong because that would discredit them but they are already discredited after the climate gate scandal when even their own internal emails between colleagues admitted they didn't think it was real but it was all down played and the media bought it.

Look at all the rubbish the media come out with , every couple of months you hear " climate scientists bla bla bla" no matter how ludicrous it sounds the media go with it because it's a story and the media always love sensationalist headlines.

Remember the article in the British times was it that said something like , " by the year 2000 Children won't know what snow is" ?
It's the very concept of solar cooling that was considered "unthinkable" only a few years ago, it is now being openly discussed on mainstream media, unlike being dismissed as crank talk as it used to be.

This is the point I am making, people are now thinking differently. And yes, it is only temporary.
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20-02-2019, 00:17   #733
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The point being the climate heats and cools has done for millions of years our influence if any would be negligible at worst.

We didn't cause the melting of the last ice age and that was a lot of ice.
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The point being the climate heats and cools has done for millions of years our influence if any would be negligible at worst.

We didn't cause the melting of the last ice age and that was a lot of ice.

That is not incompatible with us causing climate change.

Why did the climate heat and cool in the past? Sometimes it was caused by external factors, sometimes it was caused by tectonic plate movement, but sometimes it was caused by life on earth.

https://www.bgs.ac.uk/discoveringGeo...al/causes.html

I fully accept that the climate has changed in the past, and that it will change in the future. Man-made greenhouse gases are pushing the climate in one direction. This research has shown that solar magnetic activity may be pushing the climate in another direction and they will cancel each other out over the very short term - a couple of decades - but that we will return to the global warming scenario then.

There is nothing in that research that disproves man-made climate change.
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Unless your talking about climate change on the sun your in the wrong thread.
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