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16-09-2020, 13:53   #1
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Dr Martin Feeley resignation

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Dr Feeley (70) stepped down from his post as clinical director of Dublin Midlands Hospital Group on Tuesday with immediate effect.

After his public comments, he came under heavy pressure from HSE management, who told him his position was untenable.

A doctor for more than 45 years and an employee of the health service for 30 years, Dr Feeley says he stands by his comments, but decided to resign so management in his hospital group would not be penalised.
We have no idea whether he’s correct or not, his comments didn’t change anything in regard to restrictions and approach taken. He hasn’t cost lives with his advice.

This is not a thread questioning who is in the right or wrong here, it’s a thread questioning the treatment this doctor has received from the HSE. A doctor who gave 45 years of his life, 30 years in public healthcare being pressured into resigning just because he has an opinion that differs to the HSE.

This be the same HSE caught employing fake doctors or incompetent ones that were struck off in the UK for malpractice.
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First of all, he resigned - he said so. He was not sacked. It is not possible to sack people in the HSE - well, it's possible, but it would take about a year.

He is allowed to have an opinion. He is not allowed to undermine the HSE's message in a public forum (he is employed by HSE). If i did that, i would be disciplined by my boss, and rightly so. He could have written a letter to the CMO and the CEO expressing his reservations.

Anyway, don't feel too sorry for poor old Martin. He is a consultant vascular surgeon, 70 years old. He will retire on a well-deserved pension.
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He could have told them to go fcuk themselves and stayed in his job. He decided not to do that. More's the pity.

I don't agree with his suggestions by the way, I just don't like people being hounded out of their jobs for having differing opinions.
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What did he say?
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What did he say?
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/l...-flu-1.4354743

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/heal...ctor-1.4352701
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He could have told them to go fcuk themselves and stayed in his job. He decided not to do that. More's the pity.

I don't agree with his suggestions by the way, I just don't like people being hounded out of their jobs for having differing opinions.
It's not really about having a different opinion though.

It's broadcasting that opinion and undermining your employer.

You do need to tow the company line especially in public.
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His tenure is irrelevant.

His decision to come out and make a statement about Covid off his own bat, as well as making a song and dance about stepping down "so others wouldn't be penalised", tells me that Dr. Feeley obviously thinks very highly of himself and is enjoying all the attention.

My experience of Irish consultant surgeons of his vintage is that they are constructed entirely of pure arrogance.

He made a public statement about an area of medicine outside of his speciality, with no basis in fact and which entirely contradicted the current national and internal data and advice. For any medical professional, that's a disciplinary matter that requires sanction.
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aah its not a differing of opinion though is it


its bull****, it's flat earther type stuff



It's denying the numbers, over 200k people have died schtateside already and we aren't even in the season when the flu would hit, so if that correlates it would get worse


you can't get herd immunity with 100ks of people all infected at the same time and still keep vulberable groups safe


Lockdowns might prove to not have been the right move, but we avoided becoming Italy or Spain, which people are quick to forget
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It's not really about having a different opinion though.

It's broadcasting that opinion and undermining your employer.

You do need to tow the company line especially in public.



you can have a differing opinion and speak up about it


if its based in some kind of logic
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you can have a differing opinion and speak up about it


if its based in some kind of logic
Yeah but follow the correct procedure /channels.

If you get nowhere you might become a "whistle blower".

You also need hard facts to back up your opinion.

Going straight to press is not how to deal with an issue you have with your employer.
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