Potential no more one off houses allowed to be built in the country side

VANG1 wrote: »

If the greens get into government they may well have that policy

the greens will never have a majority enough to get through such a policy.
And there is absolutely no way FF or FG will be on board with such a policy either.

with the advent of electric cars, better effluent treatment and monitoring, property tax, development charges and individual connection fees....
the reasons to be against rural one off housing are being withered down to pure aesthetic ones.

DTMeath wrote: »

If you google one off housing agriland, they have an article about it.
I'm also afraid they will sneak something like this into the new development plans from 2020 on wards.

All people have to do is to read the 2020-2040 planning framework.

It clearly says :

Ensure, in providing for the development of rural housing, that a distinction is made between areas under urban influence, i.e. within the commuter catchment of cities and large towns and centres of employment, and elsewhere: In rural areas under urban influence, facilitate the provision of single housing in the countryside based on the core consideration of demonstrable economic or social need to live in a rural area and siting and design criteria for rural housing in statutory guidelines and plans, having regard to the viability of smaller towns and rural settlements;

In rural areas elsewhere, facilitate the provision of single housing in the countryside based on siting and design criteria for rural housing in statutory guidelines and plans, having regard to the viability of smaller towns and rural settlements.


So a local Councillor not understanding what is proposed is, and pearl clutching in the media about it, is nothing new at all....

One off rural housing has literally NOTHING to do with traffic congestion or poor public transport.

Rural housing is a RESULT of these things.

Urban sprawl through low density, low rise urban expansion, coupled with a patient disastrous failure to regionally develop other areas than dublin, gentrification of inner city areas, and failure to control land values... means that the commuter belt around cities has just widened and widened..

Traffic in Cities especially Dublin is a nightmare. Traffic into and out of Midlands towns in the morning and evening is at a standstill due to the hundreds of thousands of workers commuting hours per day.

To actually try to blame that on one off rural housing is actually laughable.

Del2005 wrote: »

Well if people built their McMansions closer to the towns and villages then they wouldn't need to drive. Public transport could be provided and services could be supplied. But instead people build in the middle of nowhere and drive past their local village to an out of town retailer in the next big town.

The fact that Dublin isn't allowed go up is an issue but people living in the middle of nowhere is not the solution either. Look at our European or UK neighbours, who have very little one off housing, and see the trouble they have providing services to rural areas.

Trouble providing services to rural areas??

I though the problem was traffic congestion and public transport, according to a previous post.....

Rural housing is not a hindrance to Dublin building up, that's a compete red herring.

The throngs travelling to Dublin and causing traffic congestion are travelling in the main from commuter towns. The towns I know well would be all along the old N7, but since 2005 you have smaller towns and villages like ballyroan, emo, rathangan, moate, edenderry, Portarlington, monasterevan, athy etc.... All have become commuter Towns to Dublin.

In these places the town centers are struggling even though the populations have exploded in they last 15 years (Portarlington went from circa 4500 to over 12000 in that time period). However the population are not around during the day to make the towns thrive... They are all up and gone by 7am to make a soul destroying drive to Dublin.

The reason Dublin and to a lesser extent Cork, Galway and waterford are in the mire of traffic issues is due to bad urban planning.... Worked on the basis of fill the people first, and the services second...

And on our European partners.... They suffered from severe razing of a lot of their towns and cities during ww2 so had the luxury of planning their towns and cities from a base line of practically zero. The could design building lines to allow for the modern age.
In cities where narrow streets survived (Barcelona, Prague etc) they were pragmatic when it comes to residences. They don't have the same paranoia around building lines, over looking, etc. Above ground floor windows are not dictated by paranoid separation distances, suffocating for demanding car parking spaces, and shock due to lack of proper accessible public green spaces.

So again, blaming one off rural housing for get ills of city living is very laughable.

There are issues with rural housing which I am glad to debate, but the pushing of some policy to ban it, and use urban problems as the reason... Nah I'm not on board with that at all.