All Ireland League 2019-2020 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

luke9311 · 14-02-2020 11:36pm

Another last minute try winner for Lansdowne 29-28 FT

The Lost Sheep · 15-02-2020 12:06am

Cashel won tipp derby 39-26 in Nenagh. Hosts adrift at bottom of 2A and will almost certainly be relegated or in playoff with 2B sides.
Cashel up to 2nd but could drop place or two after tomorrow's games

The Lost Sheep · 15-02-2020 2:09pm

Many other games off?
Ballina Belfast Harlequins and Clonmel Midleton onlyncalled so far I think.

IngazZagni · 16-02-2020 11:39am

luke9311 wrote: »

Another last minute try winner for Lansdowne 29-28 FT

That must be at least 4 times this season they’ve scored a winner in the final moments of the game. Certainly an entertaining way to win. They needed the experience of Craig Ronaldson to slot the conversion from near the corner too.

luke9311 · 16-02-2020 1:37pm

IngazZagni wrote: »

That must be at least 4 times this season they’ve scored a winner in the final moments of the game. Certainly an entertaining way to win. They needed the experience of Craig Ronaldson to slot the conversion from near the corner too.

yeah if im not mistake i think its 4 times in a row there or there about's they won in that manner. Very entertaining game to watch to be honest

The Lost Sheep · 16-02-2020 1:42pm

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2020/02/15/energia-all-ireland-league-results-round-up-10/

Chico Flores · 16-02-2020 11:20pm

So the top three divisions seemed to be locked up (you would think) on who comes first

Cork Constitution, Highfield and Barnhall

2B is tight with Malahide having the advantage and 2C is clearly going to come down to whenever Skerries and Enniscorthy play each other.

The Lost Sheep · 17-02-2020 12:08am

Chico Flores wrote: »

So the top three divisions seemed to be locked up (you would think) on who comes first

Cork Constitution, Highfield and Barnhall

2B is tight with Malahide having the advantage and 2C is clearly going to come down to whenever Skerries and Enniscorthy play each other.

good going by Highfield and barnhall if they do win leagues as it would be successive promotions for both of them
Wonder how much it will affect con towards playoffs

While Navan, Nenagh/Dolphin, Ballina look like they'll be relegated at this stage from their respective divisions.

luke9311 · 17-02-2020 1:10am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

good going by Highfield and barnhall if they do win leagues as it would be successive promotions for both of them
Wonder how much it will affect con towards playoffs

While Navan, Nenagh/Dolphin, Ballina look like they'll be relegated at this stage from their respective divisions.

Con still look the team to beat in 1a tbh but having said that UCD raised a few questions about them recently

Squidgy Black · 17-02-2020 9:06am

luke9311 wrote: »

Con still look the team to beat in 1a tbh but having said that UCD raised a few questions about them recently

Con have been ran close a couple times, only beat YM by a point and Trinity by 3 at home, but they've managed to squeak past all the same. I'd be surprised if they don't lift the trophy at the end of the season

The Lost Sheep · 17-02-2020 3:51pm

Bateman cup final to be played in clonmel on April 11th

AIL final in Donnybrook may 9th

FellasFellas · 17-02-2020 4:22pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Bateman cup final to be played in clonmel on April 11th

AIL final in Donnybrook may 9th

AIL Final so much better in Donnybrook. Appreciate Aviva was a nice day out but was always empty and did nothing for atmosphere which a final should always have. Donnybrook will get the punters in the gates and can turn it into a good atmosphere especially on a sunny day.

Con
Garryowen
UCD
Lansdowne

Thats how I think it'll finish tbh, with Trinity and Hinch in 9th and 10th.

Be interesting to see how Highfield will go in 1A, will they be able to keep fitness levels high enough. I have heard their pack are absolute behemoths.

The Lost Sheep · 17-02-2020 5:00pm

FellasFellas wrote: »

AIL Final so much better in Donnybrook. Appreciate Aviva was a nice day out but was always empty and did nothing for atmosphere which a final should always have. Donnybrook will get the punters in the gates and can turn it into a good atmosphere especially on a sunny day.

Con
Garryowen
UCD
Lansdowne

Thats how I think it'll finish tbh, with Trinity and Hinch in 9th and 10th.

Be interesting to see how Highfield will go in 1A, will they be able to keep fitness levels high enough. I have heard their pack are absolute behemoths.

I dont. I think we should be using Aviva for more finals of national competitions. Yes the crowd can be lost sometimes but it's a national league and the premier final of club rugby. Look at the GAA and how they play all Ireland senior, junior and intermediate finals in croke park.
https://www.the42.ie/all-ireland-club-ballyhale-corofin-4955453-Jan2020/
Why cant rugby do the same and have clubs bring far more of their members to games. Get irfu to help clubs with bus costs where applicable.
Donnybrook wont help get more in the gates than the Aviva will.

FellasFellas · 17-02-2020 5:23pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

I dont. I think we should be using Aviva for more finals of national competitions. Yes the crowd can be lost sometimes but it's a national league and the premier final of club rugby. Look at the GAA and how they play all Ireland senior, junior and intermediate finals in croke park.
https://www.the42.ie/all-ireland-club-ballyhale-corofin-4955453-Jan2020/
Why cant rugby do the same and have clubs bring far more of their members to games. Get irfu to help clubs with bus costs where applicable.
Donnybrook wont help get more in the gates than the Aviva will.

The difference is the GAA is town based essentially so you have an entire town piling down to Croke Park plus neutrals for 2 or 3 back to back games. If say Con and Lansdowne make it to a final, you only have the families of the players, some alicadoos and then neutrals who have an interest in the AIL. Donnybrook will be busier than Lansdowne ever was for the game I can guarantee that. The IRFU will never do that, we all know that for a fact so no point debating it.

The best thing they could do is make kids go free, €5 tickets for tickets sold by the clubs in the weeks leading up to it and €10 at the gate. A busy Donnybrook on a weekend is far more likely to get a punter to walk in off the road who didn't know it was on than the Aviva which isn't on a main road or anything.

They also should play the 1B final promo game before it or something along those lines, or have TCSP broadcast live from the game afterwards or before.

The Lost Sheep · 17-02-2020 5:52pm

FellasFellas wrote: »

The difference is the GAA is town based essentially so you have an entire town piling down to Croke Park plus neutrals for 2 or 3 back to back games. If say Con and Lansdowne make it to a final, you only have the families of the players, some alicadoos and then neutrals who have an interest in the AIL. Donnybrook will be busier than Lansdowne ever was for the game I can guarantee that. The IRFU will never do that, we all know that for a fact so no point debating it.

The best thing they could do is make kids go free, €5 tickets for tickets sold by the clubs in the weeks leading up to it and €10 at the gate. A busy Donnybrook on a weekend is far more likely to get a punter to walk in off the road who didn't know it was on than the Aviva which isn't on a main road or anything.

They also should play the 1B final promo game before it or something along those lines, or have TCSP broadcast live from the game afterwards or before.

GAA isnt at all town based and many of the sides that play in those finals are very rural parishes with much smaller areas to pull support from etc than many rugby clubs.
We should be getting more club games and finals of Irish tournaments played in lansdowne road not less. Look at the Welsh, Scottish do with finals of all kinds in their national stadiums on the main pitch.
Up to irfu to promote final and then clubs to get more from their own membership bases to attend the finals.
You cant in any way guarantee Donnybrook would be busier. It wouldnt have any positive impact. There is club games all the time in Donnybrook. National finals should be in the national stadium just like provincial finals should be in provincial stadiums.
That Donnybrook is on a busier road has no impact on potential attendance.
I would rather they play the all Ireland clubs u16/18 finals before the AIL 1 finals as they are the primary underage all Ireland competitions and would be good boost to those competitions as well and there has been precedent of those youths all irelands being played before AIL finals in lansdowne road as there has been some finals played as curtain raisers in the 90s

luke9311 · 17-02-2020 5:58pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Con have been ran close a couple times, only beat YM by a point and Trinity by 3 at home, but they've managed to squeak past all the same. I'd be surprised if they don't lift the trophy at the end of the season

yeah id have to agree with you there the strength and depth in that side is incredible if you take into account 3 key players that can comfortable act as a playmaker for them at 10 if another's injured like moynihan, crowley and quinlan then throw in hayes in the mix forwards wise and a couple of others...

stephen_n · 17-02-2020 7:10pm

Maybe they should split the difference and have it in Thomond or Kingspan then.

[Deleted User] · 17-02-2020 7:24pm

As long as it's not fecking Athlone ever again.

The Lost Sheep · 20-02-2020 9:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

As long as it's not fecking Athlone ever again.

:pac: :pac:

Only 2 Friday games this week. Both 1A. Con UCC and Terenure UCD.

Purple Fox · 22-02-2020 12:40am

Nure 16-21 UCD
Con 16-12 UCC

Adam Byrne and Barry Daly playing for UCD.

luke9311 · 22-02-2020 12:53am

Purple Fox wrote: »

Nure 16-21 UCD
Con 16-12 UCC

Adam Byrne and Barry Daly playing for UCD.

How did they go for UCD?

luke9311 · 22-02-2020 6:10pm

Anyone in greenfields today? Wondering what went on at the end Lansdowne WhatsApp just says controversial finish to the game involving assistant ref finishing 21-20 to cookies

EmmetSpiceland · 23-02-2020 2:18pm

luke9311 wrote: »

Anyone in greenfields today? Wondering what went on at the end Lansdowne WhatsApp just says controversial finish to the game involving assistant ref finishing 21-20 to cookies

“The game ended in controversial circumstances as following Ronaldson’s miss in the eighth minute of injury-time, Munsters kicked the ball to touch and the nearby touch judge signalled for a Lansdowne lineout. The Cookies stole it in the air, crucially, and were able to see out a nerve-jangling result.”

From The 42’s roundup here:

https://www.the42.ie/ail-results-10-5018482-Feb2020/

Stainalert · 23-02-2020 9:39pm

Report is a bit inaccurate

Munsters kicked the ball to touch from Ronaldson's penalty which just fell short. It was caught by the Lansdowne 2nd row Mark Flanagan who definitely not in touch however the touch judge who was no where near the touch line and in no position to make any call raised his flag (late) to signal Lansdowne were in touch.

Basically Lansdowne were denied a last chance attacking opportunity against a 14 man Young Munster - The Munsters player who gave away the last minute penalty was yellow carded for a deliberate knock down.

It was a really great game of rugby - both teams going at each other full throttle and another great reason why more people should get the opportunity to see these games. Some TV stations are missing a trick here and the IRFU should at least release some highlights - all the teams send in their videos now for coding so they get all the footage.

Disappointing end to the game for Lansdowne but they will take a lot of confidence from the performance.

Things now getting very interesting for that 4th place slot in the league. A league of very fine margins.

luke9311 · 23-02-2020 11:15pm

Stainalert wrote: »

Report is a bit inaccurate

Munsters kicked the ball to touch from Ronaldson's penalty which just fell short. It was caught by the Lansdowne 2nd row Mark Flanagan who definitely not in touch however the touch judge who was no where near the touch line and in no position to make any call raised his flag (late) to signal Lansdowne were in touch.

Basically Lansdowne were denied a last chance attacking opportunity against a 14 man Young Munster - The Munsters player who gave away the last minute penalty was yellow carded for a deliberate knock down.

It was a really great game of rugby - both teams going at each other full throttle and another great reason why more people should get the opportunity to see these games. Some TV stations are missing a trick here and the IRFU should at least release some highlights - all the teams send in their videos now for coding so they get all the footage.

Disappointing end to the game for Lansdowne but they will take a lot of confidence from the performance.

Things now getting very interesting for that 4th place slot in the league. A league of very fine margins.

Ah ok I wasn’t there so was only following the twitter feed. So in a way Lansdowne were kinda robbed? Maybe they would have scored or not who knows but robbed of an opportunity to steal it maybe?

ArmchairQB · 24-02-2020 2:57pm

Stainalert wrote: »

Report is a bit inaccurate

Munsters kicked the ball to touch from Ronaldson's penalty which just fell short. It was caught by the Lansdowne 2nd row Mark Flanagan who definitely not in touch however the touch judge who was no where near the touch line and in no position to make any call raised his flag (late) to signal Lansdowne were in touch.

Basically Lansdowne were denied a last chance attacking opportunity against a 14 man Young Munster - The Munsters player who gave away the last minute penalty was yellow carded for a deliberate knock down.

It was a really great game of rugby - both teams going at each other full throttle and another great reason why more people should get the opportunity to see these games. Some TV stations are missing a trick here and the IRFU should at least release some highlights - all the teams send in their videos now for coding so they get all the footage.

Disappointing end to the game for Lansdowne but they will take a lot of confidence from the performance.

Things now getting very interesting for that 4th place slot in the league. A league of very fine margins.

Always tough for non Munster teams in Munster and have to say lots of problems and stories not so much of refs but with Touch Judges in where there are a certain well known few who at best couldn't be called or don't act as neutral officials which is very disappointing in this day and age. Might be little things here and there in other provinces but nothing as blatant as Munster

The Lost Sheep · 24-02-2020 3:07pm

It's the same in all provinces. To allege bias is petty

Anyway
Round Robin for promotion to AIl will involve Ashbourne, Connemara who are both already confirmed as champions with Ulster reps going to be Dromore or Ballyclare and Munster rep going to be Kilfeacle though could be caught by NCW

ArmchairQB · 24-02-2020 3:12pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

It's the same in all provinces. To allege bias is petty

Anyway
Round Robin for promotion to AIl will involve Ashbourne, Connemara who are both already confirmed as champions with Ulster reps going to be Dromore or Ballyclare and Munster rep going to be Kilfeacle though could be caught by NCW

Definetley not the same in all provinces and to say same is Naive

The Lost Sheep · 24-02-2020 3:22pm

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Definetley not the same in all provinces and to say same is Naive

it very much is but if you want to have a potshot and accuse bias against Munster refs then go ahead.

The Lost Sheep · 28-02-2020 2:28pm

2 games tonight.
Both in Munster. Garryowen Young Munster and Nenagh UL Bohs.

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