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Beep scheme - anyone joining

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    #62
    tractorporn
    Registered Users Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    larthehar wrote: »
    It says a new website will be launched in March in the T&C's.. may hold out for another month!

    Cows will have to be got in to weigh no doubt as the system won.t be ready before turnout..

    Cheers I may cool the jets so


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    #63
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,681 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Are these forms on line to print off or will they be sent out to farmers.

    'The Bishops blessed the Blueshirts in Galway, As they sailed beneath the Swastika to Spain'



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    #64
    Parishlad
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Are these forms on line to print off or will they be sent out to farmers.

    They should be sent out. I think we got one in the post last week.

    Also: Apply online through Agfood or ring 076-1064420 for form before Feb. 22nd 2019.


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    #65
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭tanko


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Are these forms on line to print off or will they be sent out to farmers.

    Anyone in the BDGP scheme will get one in the post.
    If not in the BDGP scheme you wont be sent one out and have to ring the department to get one.
    Signing up on Agfood is probably the easiest way to apply.


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    #66
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,681 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    tanko wrote: »
    Anyone in the BDGP scheme will get one in the post.
    If not in the BDGP scheme you wont be sent one out and have to ring the department to get one.
    Signing up on Agfood is probably the easiest way to apply.

    Thanks. Lots of people not on Agfood though.

    'The Bishops blessed the Blueshirts in Galway, As they sailed beneath the Swastika to Spain'



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    #67
    tellmeabit
    Registered Users Posts: 943 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    cant see if you are able to withdraw from the scheme?


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    #68
    Parishlad
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    cant see if you are able to withdraw from the scheme?

    Well I guess if you don't weight the cattle then you don't get paid. There's hardly any penalty on top of not actually getting the money.....if that makes sense.


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    #69
    tellmeabit
    Registered Users Posts: 943 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Parishlad wrote: »
    tellmeabit wrote: »
    cant see if you are able to withdraw from the scheme?

    Well I guess if you don't weight the cattle then you don't get paid. There's hardly any penalty on top of not actually getting the money.....if that makes sense.
    Thanks


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    #70
    wiggy123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭wiggy123


    it worth it folks?


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    #71
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,739 ✭✭✭893bet


    wiggy123 wrote: »
    it worth it folks?

    It’s better than nothing is the concensus.


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    #72
    grassroot1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    893bet wrote: »
    It’s better than nothing is the concensus.

    The clock was fubar on my scales.I allowed I might aswell join twill pay for the replacement


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    #73
    jfh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭jfh


    Excuse my ignorance, but how do they verify the data that's input is correct?
    Is it just the farmer or is there an independent witness?!


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    #74
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,681 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    jfh wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance, but how do they verify the data that's input is correct?
    Is it just the farmer or is there an independent witness?!

    You can put down any auld sh1te by the looks of it. Like all the data collected to date via the Genomics and the Suckler Scheme.
    It's up to the statisticians then to filter out all the bad data. They can do this surprisingly well, you'd be surprised.

    But shur, it's just as easy do things right than wrong.

    'The Bishops blessed the Blueshirts in Galway, As they sailed beneath the Swastika to Spain'



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    #75
    jfh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭jfh


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    You can put down any auld sh1te by the looks of it. Like all the data collected to date via the Genomics and the Suckler Scheme.
    It's up to the statisticians then to filter out all the bad data. They can do this surprisingly well, you'd be surprised.

    But shur, it's just as easy do things right than wrong.
    Wonder will it have any impact on late registrations? Calves registered months later than actual birth. Surely this is an opportunity to try to correct data going into the system


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    #76
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,681 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    jfh wrote: »
    Wonder will it have any impact on late registrations? Calves registered months later than actual birth. Surely this is an opportunity to try to correct data going into the system

    This is where you got to be careful. They can work backwards from say the weight recorded at the mart and your weight & date recorded to get a good proximation of when the calf was actually born. Some guys might find themselves with a surprise visit in the guise of checking tags etc.

    'The Bishops blessed the Blueshirts in Galway, As they sailed beneath the Swastika to Spain'



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    #77
    croot
    Registered Users Posts: 571 ✭✭✭croot


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    This is where you got to be careful. They can work backwards from say the weight recorded at the mart and your weight & date recorded to get a good proximation of when the calf was actually born. Some guys might find themselves with a surprise visit in the guise of checking tags etc.

    I joind the scheme as I was thinking of buying a scales anyway. My neighbour weighs all the time and the cattle are so used to it now its no hassle and he has great info on performance. With TAMS it should work out cheap enough.

    On registering calves its mental how late some farmers leave it to register calves.

    I bought a bulling heifer off a local farmer when the suckler welfare scheme was going. She was around 500 kgs easily and close to 18 months by the look of her but stupidly I didnt check the card. I AI'd her shortly after. When she calved and I registered the calf I got a letter from the Dept saying she was too young for the scheme as she was only 18 months and I had her around 10 months at that stage.

    I said it to him when I met him again and he said he had an inspection shortly after he sold that one to me. He got into lots of bother because he must be always at it and had nothing registered right.


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    #78
    Who2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭Who2


    It’s not always that simple, I’ve a September born calf here that weighed in at 355kg and one of his comrades weighed in at 198kg born around the same time and a mate of mine has a genuine April born bull weighed in last week at 520 kg and damn all meal. Everyone will have the odd exception are they going to inspect us all? Are they going to look at the 350kg heifer I have here that’s near two year old.


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    #79
    Dozer1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    I've looked at the BEEP terms and even the bit in the journal this week but I didn't see an answer to my question so here goes.

    I've autumn and spring calving cows, can I weigh those Autumn 2018 calves now in March and then weigh the Spring ones in November? I assume there is no issue with multiple weighing dates being used by applicants.

    Think I'll pay a lad to weigh them as I can't justify a scales for my size operation


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    #80
    Sugarbowl
    Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Dozer1 wrote: »
    I've looked at the BEEP terms and even the bit in the journal this week but I didn't see an answer to my question so here goes.

    I've autumn and spring calving cows, can I weigh those Autumn 2018 calves now in March and then weigh the Spring ones in November? I assume there is no issue with multiple weighing dates being used by applicants.

    Think I'll pay a lad to weigh them as I can't justify a scales for my size operation

    You don't necessarily have to buy scales. You can rent them for 50e a day through the scheme.


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    #81
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    I've had a bit of a change of mind about this. With the 60% Tams grant and the payment from the scheme I can get a mobile crush with weighing scale, leg lifter and head scoop which would be very handy around the place and I won't be out of pocket.


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    #82
    tellmeabit
    Registered Users Posts: 943 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    I've had a bit of a change of mind about this. With the 60% Tams grant and the payment from the scheme I can get a mobile crush with weighing scale, leg lifter and head scoop which would be very handy around the place and I won't be out of pocket.

    what would cost of all that come in around?
    i was thinking to add in some slat matts


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    #83
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    what would cost of all that come in around?
    i was thinking to add in some slat matts

    I rang a crowd the other day that were advertising on dd. In around 3.5k.


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    #84
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭tanko


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    what would cost of all that come in around?
    i was thinking to add in some slat matts

    Slat mats are hardly covered under TAMS??


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    #85
    jfh
    Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭jfh


    tanko wrote: »
    Slat mats are hardly covered under TAMS??

    They weren't the last time I checked. Think this has been doing the rounds for the last couple of years, be good if they were


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    #86
    grassroot1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    I've had a bit of a change of mind about this. With the 60% Tams grant and the payment from the scheme I can get a mobile crush with weighing scale, leg lifter and head scoop which would be very handy around the place and I won't be out of pocket.

    Priced 10 sections of mobile penning last year 1000 euro you might add that to it


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    #87
    Who2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭Who2


    jfh wrote: »
    They weren't the last time I checked. Think this has been doing the rounds for the last couple of years, be good if they were

    They aren’t but a lot of the lads doing crushes and penning alongwith slat mats, maybe the receipt mightn’t have the mats on it if you were buying a few bits or had bought bits recently.


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    #88
    valtra2
    Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭valtra2


    Who2 wrote: »
    They aren’t but a lot of the lads doing crushes and penning alongwith slat mats, maybe the receipt mightn’t have the mats on it if you were buying a few bits or had bought bits recently.

    That my friend is called fraud


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    #89
    older by the day
    Registered Users Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭older by the day


    valtra2 wrote: »
    Who2 wrote: »
    They aren’t but a lot of the lads doing crushes and penning alongwith slat mats, maybe the receipt mightn’t have the mats on it if you were buying a few bits or had bought bits recently.

    That my friend is called fraud
    When you see the children's hospital bill going to two billion, 40% off a few cow mats don't look like a big sin


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    #90
    Sami23
    Registered Users Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭Sami23


    older by the day wrote: »
    When you see the children's hospital bill going to two billion, 40% off a few cow mats don't look like a big sin

    Well said


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    #91
    RoscommonTom
    Registered Users Posts: 918 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    tanko wrote: »
    Slat mats are hardly covered under TAMS??

    theyre not but they shoukd be, pure daft


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