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Best cattle weighing scales

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    #32
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Obvisously the 300kg calf was superior quality though??

    No same quality just younger & lighter.
    The younger lad was shipped the other 2 were too heavy


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    #33
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users Posts: 922 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    No same quality just younger & lighter.
    The younger lad was shipped the other 2 were too heavy

    Oh right. Well that makes sense alright. Cheers


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    #34
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Oh right. Well that makes sense alright. Cheers

    I'm not the best at explaining myself


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    #35
    The part time boy
    Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    Anyone get a scales using tams ?

    What down side to doing it


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    #36
    Zr105
    Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Got an O'Neill scales under tams safety grant, no problems with it, the only pain was we went for the 8ft, and it's definitely needed if weighing fr blks, even contis are the full of it. But because it's based on a reference cost you only get the grant on what they say it costs. Only other thing about it was you need something else with it to get over the 2000 minimum threshold.
    Looking back I think I'd possibly have gone the route of a full crate even if it was a good bit more money, it'd leave it a lot easier weighing as once there in it there right rather than trying to see if all feet are on


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    #37
    cute geoge
    Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    what sort of money would a crate work out at and would the grant be still be based on the dept. reference cost of the weighing scales at€1300


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    #38
    J.O. Farmer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Weighed them regularly & sold them when they were 300-350kg

    How many calves does he sell and how often does he go to the mart.
    If he only had 3 to sell I can't see him going to the mart with 2. That said if he'd only 3 I can't see him investing in a scales either.


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    #39
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    cute geoge wrote: »
    what sort of money would a crate work out at and would the grant be still be based on the dept. reference cost of the weighing scales at€1300
    Shop around but they're that ballpark


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    #40
    croot
    Registered Users Posts: 571 ✭✭✭croot


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Monitoring is extremely useful if you're a weanling producer, it lets you see if you're on target for the sales.

    This is the reason I am hoping to get one. In sucklers anyway I think we all need to know what calves ADG is and that will tell us how good a cow really is. I know you look at the calf and say that's a super calf but maybe the ADG isn't as good as we think.
    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Chatted a lad in the mart awhile ago, he brought 3 bulls to the sale, 2 big & 1 lesser. His trailer was out of action & a friend brought them as he had a few to sell to.
    He got €900 for 450kg for the bigger & €900 for 300kg for the lesser.
    3 fine bulls.
    If that man had a scale he wouldn't of been feeding 300kg for nothing.
    He thought the bigger were 350kg
    With the way the market is going this is another reason to know weights so that you can target the proper customer. I'm selling the Autumn born bulls next week hopefully because I think they are the right weight for the exporters but I wont know till they are on the scales


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    #41
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    J.O. Farmer wrote: »
    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Weighed them regularly & sold them when they were 300-350kg

    How many calves does he sell and how often does he go to the mart.
    If he only had 3 to sell I can't see him going to the mart with 2. That said if he'd only 3 I can't see him investing in a scales either.
    There comment that I replied to said a scale is handy for dosing & finishing and not needed for weanling production, so I remembered this story & shared it to highlight that weights are hugely important when producing weanlings, as knowing your weights is key


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    #42
    Muckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Zr105 wrote: »
    the only pain was we went for the 8ft, and it's definitely needed if weighing fr blks, even contis are the full of it.

    Would bullocks be 8' from their front legs to their back legs? Just thinking would a finished lad not fit across an 8' cattle trailer?


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    #43
    charolais0153
    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    croot wrote: »
    This is the reason I am hoping to get one. In sucklers anyway I think we all need to know what calves ADG is and that will tell us how good a cow really is. I know you look at the calf and say that's a super calf but maybe the ADG isn't as good as we think.


    With the way the market is going this is another reason to know weights so that you can target the proper customer. I'm selling the Autumn born bulls next week hopefully because I think they are the right weight for the exporters but I wont know till they are on the scales

    If one cow has a calf putting on .3 kg day more than an other calf but the other calf sells for more. What Fies that tell you? Weight and price are most important things in suclking. Not adg or price per kiko


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    #44
    croot
    Registered Users Posts: 571 ✭✭✭croot


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    If one cow has a calf putting on .3 kg day more than an other calf but the other calf sells for more. What Fies that tell you? Weight and price are most important things in suclking. Not adg or price per kiko
    One thing it tells me is the one with more milk is the one I'll keep replacements off. Maybe it's not for everyone but I'd prefer to have all the information rather than guessing.


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    #45
    MfMan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Muckit wrote: »
    Would bullocks be 8' from their front legs to their back legs? Just thinking would a finished lad not fit across an 8' cattle trailer?

    No, they easily fit on an 8' scale.


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    Zr105
    Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Muckit wrote: »
    Would bullocks be 8' from their front legs to their back legs? Just thinking would a finished lad not fit across an 8' cattle trailer?

    It's not so much they don't fit on it, it's that your trying to get them on and stand still, the extra bit of space gives you more of a chance to get them right on it


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    #47
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Zr105 wrote: »
    It's not so much they don't fit on it, it's that your trying to get them on and stand still, the extra bit of space gives you more of a chance to get them right on it
    Is there a Fn button that will allow the display the static weight


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    #48
    Zr105
    Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Is there a Fn button that will allow the display the static weight

    Once they don't shift too much for 3 seconds the weight will lock and hold so long as they don't move a leg and take the weight off it


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    #49
    Hagimalone
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Hagimalone


    cathal irwin wrote:
    I bought the scales unit for £250 of a uk company. Just have to get a platform made now. I am sure you'll find better but you wont find cheaper

    Cathal, what's the name of the UK company you purchased off


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    #50
    cacs
    Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭cacs


    Hagimalone wrote: »
    Cathal, what's the name of the UK company you purchased off
    The price has gone up or maybe I am thinking of an ex vat price.
    I just need to make platform and I am away

    http://m.monsterscales.co.uk/Warehouse_Beam_Weigh_Scales_10274_10276.html?category_id=88


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    #51
    zetor 4911
    Registered Users Posts: 421 ✭✭zetor 4911


    cathal irwin wrote: »
    The price has gone up or maybe I am thinking of an ex vat price.
    I just need to make platform and I am away

    Cathal did you make the platform and how did it turn out.


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    #52
    Mushy06
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Mushy06


    cathal irwin wrote: »
    Hagimalone wrote: »
    Cathal, what's the name of the UK company you purchased off
    The price has gone up or maybe I am thinking of an ex vat price.
    I just need to make platform and I am away

    http://m.monsterscales.co.uk/Warehouse_Beam_Weigh_Scales_10274_10276.html?category_id=88
    Hi there Cathal, 
    Whats the Display like with that unit? is there an FN button that reads weight after 3 -5 secs?


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    #53
    cacs
    Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭cacs


    It's still sitting in the shed have to get it going


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    #54
    Mushy06
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Mushy06


    cathal irwin wrote: »
    It's still sitting in the shed have to get it going
    if we have time we'd be dangerous :D


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    #55
    Mushy06
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Mushy06


    Has anyone any experience with Autosupply weighting scales in Roscommon?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En9u13FX-X0


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    #56
    cacs
    Registered Users Posts: 832 ✭✭✭cacs


    That's what I bought but I bought it direct from the company in the U.K. Who supplies auto supply I think it was £250 plus vat direct. I still have to hook it up


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    #57
    Sami23
    Registered Users Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Just digging up this thread as I'm about to bite the bullet and buy a scales through TAMS.
    Is TRU TEST still the best scales on the market or are there other scales that people would recommend over it.

    TRU TEST scales with S3 indicator is coming in at €1600 all in.


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    #58
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Getting them to keep the left hind leg in the channel is a task in itself. A flat platform would be better suited for accurate weighing and ease of use.

    platform_scales_5.jpg


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