Ajax wireless alarm system

WildCardDoW wrote: »

Hi all,

Have run alarm wire to everything. Can I use that for this system or is it all wireless?

Is it recommended to get this from HomeSecure or would you say it would make sense to order it from eBay (and then use my own SIM Card) and get the electrician to install it?

Be careful if you are going to employ someone to install a Security system, they are legally obliged to have a PSA license, if they do not and are caught then they and you as the person that employed them, will also be subject to prosecution.

ElliotE2 wrote: »

I had also assumed I could continue to use app if end my Home Secure contract but apparently it would be a tenner a month; this seems odd. Do Home Secure have some propriety control over the app? Is there any other version of it I could use?

Thanks for any info you may have,

Gary

Just signed up myself, decided to go with home secure so I can spend the 1k+ it would have cost to buy it myself on other house necessities.
I was told I'll own the system after 3 years. I'm expecting I'll use the Ajax app from then. I've asked if I can use it from the start, yet to get an answer. If they don't give you full admin to the system, thus full control and capability to use Ajax app, when you own it then there's something wrong there, as I can't imagine it "has" to use their branded app. If there is an ongoing subscription to use the app after you own it I'll be using my rights to cancel within 14 days.

Thank you everyone for such useful insights, you've helped me make up my mind towards getting the whole Ajax setup for self-installation, as opposed to going for Homesecure!

I compared prices between Best Alarm and Megateh for the setup I want, and I have to say I'm quite surprised to see such a big difference between them.
Hub 2 Plus, 3 doorprotect plus, 3 combiprotect, 1 keypad, 1 spacecontrol and 1 street siren are coming out at a total of €1074 on Best Alarm and €1406 on Megateh (both with free shipping)...

Is it normal to see such a difference in prices? I've never bought anything from any of them, so I don't really know what to expect, but I would have never thought to see such a big difference in pricing between one and the other!

Any thoughts appreciated!

it is appropriate to power this system. Another friend of mine bought it the other day and is very satisfied.

Folks,

Strongly considering pulling the trigger on Ajax, the biggest hurdle is trying ton convince myself to forgo the Home Assistant integration which I really wish it had, that would make it perfect.

What I'd really like to know is if anyone on here went with the Smoke/Temp/CO2 detectors and how they find them? I've got wired ones now but assume I can just disconnect those and push them up into the ceiling, but what I'd really like to know is how well they work in the kitchen? Does the toaster set the smoke detector off for example, or can you configure that element?

Thanks in advance.

Duke of Url wrote: »

I have the fire protect and the flood protect installed.

I didnt disconnect the ones already installed.

Ive tested mine to make sure they are working but they have never went off when cooking.

Thanks for that info.


Just so I'm clear, when you say you didn't disconnect the ones already installed, does that mean you're essentially running 2 detectors in your rooms (Ajax + Original) and if so, any particular reason for that?


Cheers!

With the wired smoke detectors there is an interconnect wire, and from what i can read mine being fireangel if there is 5 volts on the line (don`t quote me on the votage) then all smoke detectors should sound the alarm. So if any alarm detects smoke it will put 5volts on that line.
Now Ajax do transmitter or multitransmitter that you can use for wired sensors like pir / window sensors and also it says fire alarms, so you can use your old wired sensors and have them setup and alert in ajax.
Now i`m not sure how this would work, as the ajax transmitter as a in and out for the cable for the alarm, but my fire alarm interconnect just connects all the smoke detectors together, there is no return cable. So unless i have to run an cable back from the last interconnect for the out return or maybe i can just jumper the in and out together and have the interconnect into one , so if there is a 5volt on the line it will be seen on both inputs.
I can`t find anything on the web for this, so might be talking out my a$$, maybe its something for there support. If it can be done that would be excellent.

Looking at their various motion sensors the best choice for me seems to be motion protect plus as i have heat recovery (doubt it's as big temp differential as the air con they mention). But is has an extra radar for air and curtain movements.

This though takes the combi (with sound) and and motion cam out of my options. Has anyone used these two with heat recovery without any problems? I'd like to have one motion cam for verification purposes

PressTheButton wrote: »

Best Alarm will price match Megateh.
PS Many thanks to all posting on this thread and over on Home Automation and IOT forum for very informative posts on this topic.

Yep agreed on the thanks here as it's been very helpful.


Regarding the price-match, they wouldn't match as it goes in the end, and were quite a bit out compared to Megateh so ended up going with them in the end.

PressTheButton wrote: »

Seems it might therefore depends on BAS customer service rep. one deals with?
What I did: First got an online quote from M for Ajax alarm products I required. (All M’s Ajax alarm products currently qualify for their Black Friday discount. Not sure from M’s website when their Black Friday discount ends.) Then added exact same list of Ajax alarm products in BAS’s online shopping cart. Using BAS’s online chat box, attached screenshot of Ajax alarm products in M’s online shopping cart and availed of BAS’s price guarantee:
[BAS price guarantee — quote: “”Seen a lower price elsewhere? Let us know, we offer the lowest price guarantee.”]
BAS customer service rep. I dealt with provided, without quibbling, a bespoke discount coupon which I entered in BAS cart.
Result: While BAS didn’t further discount M’s price they did match it.

Well done on that - interestingly I did the same back to back option and did push the subject a little, but sadly my rep wouldn't budge on what they had in place and just stood behind the fact that M wasn't an authorised seller and they had a 4 year warranty.


Fair play to you for getting the deal with B in the end.

pitterbrayn wrote: »

Hello! I really need your friendly advice. I am also going to install the Ajax system. COuld you please share your experience in using that? How long do you have it, and does it worth it. I have read a lot about it. As I understood, this is a professional security system. I can choose any products I want to be connected to that and control them through the phone application. It will be very useful for me due to a lot of business trips now and usual trips after the pandemic (if it will ever end). So, I guess, if I spend more money on a qualitative security system now, I will save it in the future and make a good investment, right?

I guess you are right. It is always more reasonable to spend money on a qualitative product than to waste them buying a cheap one. I have been using the Ajax system for a while. I use lots of their products. I hope they will start producing their cameras soon. The quality of the system is great, the design looks good. But when I connected another brand cams, they do not suit that minimalistic Ajax design. So, I hope we'll see new Ajax devices soon.

What sim card are people using in the hub? I think two is overkill so just going to add one, any recommendations, whats the least expensive one, I'm guessing a PAYG sim is best, not sure which one needs topping up the least, any advise?

MagicBusDriver1 wrote: »

I use things mobile which is a World 4G sim card. Its prepay and it very cheap, maybe €20 or so per year.

Thanks for that, will look into it.

Pete123456 wrote: »

How much data do you find yourself using?

45MB in 130 days.