Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion : 2019 and Winter 2020

Mortelaro · 24-07-2019 12:21am

Strike in south kilkenny
Some off mid wexford coast now too

Kermit.de.frog · 24-07-2019 12:24am

The cloud tops really blowing up now as the storms are making their way inland across much of Britain.

Kermit.de.frog · 24-07-2019 12:28am

Mortelaro wrote: »

Strike in south kilkenny
Some off mid wexford coast now too

Just remember there is some distortion. Best look for tight clustering of strikes.

Muir · 24-07-2019 12:29am

On a plane in Gatwick. Been delayed by 3 hours and now the sky is lighting up around us as we wait to takeoff

Rougies · 24-07-2019 12:31am

Mortelaro wrote: »

Strike in south kilkenny
Some off mid wexford coast now too

Keep in mind that there will be a lot of false strikes showing around Ireland on the live lightning maps tonight because Ireland has very poor lightning detector coverage and with the hundreds of strikes per minute happening in the south of Britain there will be a few false returns that slip through the cracks before validation.

Danno · 24-07-2019 12:37am

Some big drops here now in Durrow, Laois.

Kermit.de.frog · 24-07-2019 12:37am

Torrential rain and frequent lightning in Portsmouth

http://www.hmswarrior.org/webcam

John.Icy · 24-07-2019 12:41am

Satellite looking more benign south of us now. Not overly inspiring.

Kermit.de.frog · 24-07-2019 1:05am

Time to call it a night.

igCorcaigh · 24-07-2019 1:16am

https://twitter.com/EugeneDH_Bass/status/1153803339953397761?s=19

igCorcaigh · 24-07-2019 1:21am

https://twitter.com/knickknack78/status/1153816670126764035?s=19

Rougies · 24-07-2019 1:31am

https://cam.airlive.net/bhx/

Oneiric 3 · 24-07-2019 7:15am

KevBrads (better known as 'Mr. Data') over on TWO captured some nice lightning in Manchester last night. Timelapse video (starts at about 1.00m)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0io7U2Jouc

jimmynokia · 24-07-2019 7:58am

What a non event for us again

prinzeugen · 24-07-2019 8:23am

jimmynokia wrote: »

What a non event for us again

Yup. If I want sparks I will resort to the youtube railway cams in the USA.

Why did I move to this Fecking island when the other one has better thunder??

ZX7R · 24-07-2019 8:27am

jimmynokia wrote: »

What a non event for us again

It was never to be an event for us anyways, Estofex never even gave us or had in the slight margin.

Storm 10 · 24-07-2019 10:00am

Any chance of any sparks in the West today or tomorrow

glightning · 24-07-2019 10:34am

ZX7R wrote: »

It was never to be an event for us anyways, Estofex never even gave us or had in the slight margin.

I guess the point that was being made by jimmynokia was not about the specific forecasts per se, rather it’s about the fact that we are sick and damn tired of the endless, year after year, same patterns of intense heat and severe thunderstorms always, always, ending up just 100 to 200 miles east of Ireland with us largely losing out every single time.

Why oh why does the really hot air always end up the spine of the UK? Why is Ireland always on the wrong side of whatever the UK gets? Always a close but no cigar setup. If the UK gets a blast of 15c+ 850’s, we usually end up with 5 to 10c and the lions share of the cloud.

We a thundery breakdown happens, we usually don’t have the high surface temps to break the caps. Even though we are usually closest to the fronts, we usually have nothing firing over here. And if the storms migrate from England towards us, it’s usually early the next morning when they are dead and just throws a load of crappy overcast wastage over us which kills our max temps the next day.

I fear that none of this will ever change for us really.....

jimmynokia · 24-07-2019 10:47am

ME saying thundery showers tonight.

Mortelaro · 24-07-2019 11:00am

jimmynokia wrote: »

ME saying thundery showers tonight.

Wouldn't surprise me
Lots of acca about,south wicklow north wexford

Oneiric 3 · 24-07-2019 11:02am

glightning wrote: »

I guess the point that was being made by jimmynokia was not about the specific forecasts per se, rather it’s about the fact that we are sick and damn tired of the endless, year after year, same patterns of intense heat and severe thunderstorms always, always, ending up just 100 to 200 miles east of Ireland with us largely losing out every single time.

Why oh why does the really hot air always end up the spine of the UK? Why is Ireland always on the wrong side of whatever the UK gets? Always a close but no cigar setup. If the UK gets a blast of 15c+ 850’s, we usually end up with 5 to 10c and the lions share of the cloud.

We a thundery breakdown happens, we usually don’t have the high surface temps to break the caps. Even though we are usually closest to the fronts, we usually have nothing firing over here. And if the storms migrate from England towards us, it’s usually early the next morning when they are dead and just throws a load of crappy overcast wastage over us which kills our max temps the next day.

I fear that none of this will ever change for us really.....

People seem to forget though just where we are positioned in the great scheme of things. The UK is always going to be more prone to real heat and thunderstorms simply because of its geography.

Fair enough though, for thunderstorm lovers, Ireland is probably the worst place in the world to live, but the UK, despite getting these very occasional big events, is not much better. Many parts of the UK can just as easily miss out.

[Deleted User] · 24-07-2019 11:05am

+ a lot of People here have a strange impression about what a Thunderstorm actually is. What we get 99.9% of the time is not a Thunderstorm, I would call it simply thunder. Few claps and flashes is very far from being a Thunderstorm to me.

Oneiric 3 · 24-07-2019 11:16am

Deleted User wrote: »

+ a lot of People here have a strange impression about what a Thunderstorm actually is. What we get 99.9% of the time is not a Thunderstorm, I would call it simply thunder. Few claps and flashes is very far from being a Thunderstorm to me.

We have to take what we can get. Every rumble is precious.

glightning · 24-07-2019 1:31pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

People seem to forget though just where we are positioned in the great scheme of things. The UK is always going to be more prone to real heat and thunderstorms simply because of its geography.

Fair enough though, for thunderstorm lovers, Ireland is probably the worst place in the world to live, but the UK, despite getting these very occasional big events, is not much better. Many parts of the UK can just as easily miss out.

I’m well aware of the geography and the very short sea track between France and southern UK. I also well aware that once the air is into southern England during a SE’rly it results in a long land track with no water to modify (cool) or down.

Also understand that the Irish Sea is cold, so any heat on the mainland UK does not make it here without significant modification.

Doesn’t change the annoyance of it all.

It’s annoying that LP systems that deliver the heat to England (when combined with HP to the east) encroach on Ireland so much all too often rather than staying a little further west so we can at least join in the fun a little more often...

Storm 10 · 24-07-2019 2:34pm

Saw a picture of the lightning on a Portsmouth Newspaper and some were taken from a hill overlooking the City, in the flash you can see the car park is full of cars and people outside them taking pictures of the lightning, clearly storm chasers the lucky people.

Keep scrolling through the ten pages

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/weather/17-spectacular-pictures-of-lightning-in-skies-above-portsmouth-1-9009226

redsteveireland · 24-07-2019 9:41pm

Storm 10 wrote: »

Saw a picture of the lightning on a Portsmouth Newspaper and some were taken from a hill overlooking the City, in the flash you can see the car park is full of cars and people outside them taking pictures of the lightning, clearly storm chasers the lucky people.

Keep scrolling through the ten pages

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/weather/17-spectacular-pictures-of-lightning-in-skies-above-portsmouth-1-9009226

Lucky people for sure but I refuse to click through the pages, I hate those click heavy websites that withhold the information to gain click traffic

JCX BXC · 24-07-2019 9:44pm

Ominous looking clouds all evening in West Clare. Very interesting shapes.

PukkaStukka · 24-07-2019 9:59pm

Another lively day predicted for the UK tomorrow, and a RED alert for parts of South Central Scotland / Northern England

http://www.convectiveweather.co.uk/forecast.php?date=2019-07-25

JCX BXC · 24-07-2019 10:00pm

PukkaStukka wrote: »

Another lively day predicted for the UK tomorrow, and a RED alert for parts of Scotland

http://www.convectiveweather.co.uk/forecast.php?date=2019-07-25

Don't hype, convective weather don't do colour based alerts, that's simply colours on a map.

It's high risk.

Anyway, on the high risk, this is mentioned:

"Strong deep layer shear, with some backing at the low-levels, suggests a couple of supercells will be possible, capable of producing very frequent lightning, large hail 3-4cm in diameter and, if storms can remain surface-based, the risk of a tornado or two."

Beautiful.

esposito · 24-07-2019 10:01pm

PukkaStukka wrote: »

Another lively day predicted for the UK tomorrow, and a RED alert for parts of South Central Scotland / Northern England

http://www.convectiveweather.co.uk/forecast.php?date=2019-07-25

Very jealous of the UK. A record breaking 39° predicted tomorrow and more heavy thunderstorms tomorrow night. We just get the boring weather.

The Atlantic ruins everything for us.

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