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Should Wexford Waterford line reopen?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭MyLove4Satan


    The last thing we need regarding the rail network is another West on Track scenario. I am sure the people in that group meant well, but the line from Athenry to Limerick is pretty much a damp desert apart from Ennis. The folks in Wexford seem to be following the WoT model. They appear to be under the impression that WoT was a great success. When in reality it was a disaster. A real West of Ireland lobby should be looking for commuter potentials around Galway and Limerick. Reopening Wellington Bridge - just because it is there - is another Ardrahan. Nonsense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    The last thing we need regarding the rail network is another West on Track scenario. I am sure the people in that group meant well, but the line from Athenry to Limerick is pretty much a damp desert apart from Ennis. The folks in Wexford seem to be following the WoT model. They appear to be under the impression that WoT was a great success. When in reality it was a disaster. A real West of Ireland lobby should be looking for commuter potentials around Galway and Limerick. Reopening Wellington Bridge - just because it is there - is another Ardrahan. Nonsense.


    limerick to galway was doing quite well in terms of usership pre-covid, so is no failure.

    sure, it took a while to get there, but then again it opened in the pits of one of the worst recessions to hit the country.
    none of these campaigns exist unless they are sure that the rail line they are campaigning for is viable, it just doesn't happen because those doing the campaigning don't want to be wasting their time.
    west on track would have given up decades ago if the corridor wasn't viable.

    shut down alcohol action ireland now! end MUP today!



  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭MyLove4Satan


    none of these campaigns exist unless they are sure that the rail line they are campaigning for is viable, it just doesn't happen because those doing the campaigning don't want to be wasting their time.
    west on track would have given up decades ago if the corridor wasn't viable.

    I am not sure about this. That campaign was based on job creation and regional development in the wake of the railway being reopened. Something that it has not achieved. The campaign was marketed as a panacea for all the supposed ills of the West of Ireland. In terms of rail transport potential everything was secondary to this.

    An inch of rail will never be laid north of Tuam ever. Maybe not even north of Athenry. However if the Galway commuter line is a success that might happen as the line between Athenry and Tuam is straight and well built. beyond that it is disaster and always was.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,823 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    limerick to galway was doing quite well in terms of usership pre-covid, so is no failure.

    sure, it took a while to get there, but then again it opened in the pits of one of the worst recessions to hit the country.
    none of these campaigns exist unless they are sure that the rail line they are campaigning for is viable, it just doesn't happen because those doing the campaigning don't want to be wasting their time.
    west on track would have given up decades ago if the corridor wasn't viable.

    A lot of it seemed to be based on them "giving Dublin one in the eye".

    "Look at us, we have a train". Money would have far better spent on broadband infrastructure, but some fools seemed to think they were diverting money from Dublin into their own area instead of just draining funds from useful stuff they could've had.

    Once the bandwagon started about it all, anyone local pointing out the flaws of it all would've been deemed a traitor. Political suicide for anyone running for office to turn around and tell people it was a waste of money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    A lot of it seemed to be based on them "giving Dublin one in the eye".

    "Look at us, we have a train". Money would have far better spent on broadband infrastructure, but some fools seemed to think they were diverting money from Dublin into their own area instead of just draining funds from useful stuff they could've had.

    Once the bandwagon started about it all, anyone local pointing out the flaws of it all would've been deemed a traitor. Political suicide for anyone running for office to turn around and tell people it was a waste of money.


    no funds were drained from useful stuff they could have had as they got something useful and the funds went into that useful thing that they now have.
    there was plenty of public disagreement over the reopening of the line but ultimately, the argument to reopen it was strong and it won out because the line had and has good potential which (pre-covid at least) was being realised.

    shut down alcohol action ireland now! end MUP today!



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,317 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    No.

    If it couldn't survive pre New Ross bypass, it has no hope now. Add to that a dual carriageway in planning between Waterford and Glenmore which will further help bus services coming from South Wexford.

    Rail works best for mass transit between dense population centres. Not a sparse collection of villages with no density at all. There's nothing at the end of the line either. The ferryport can be served by buses.

    There's no scope for freight either. There's a container port along this line which is connected to the network.


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