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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

  • 08-03-2020 11:25am
    #1
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,285 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    6 cases already in the Republic, 3 in the North. I fully expect temperatures to rise but would request everyone pays attention to the mod warnings carried over from earlier threads and set out below. In particular please remain civil to each other

    First thread

    Thread II

    Thread III

    Thread IV

    Mod warnings:
    Beasty wrote: »
    OK, time to step in with some mod instructions:

    1. Please interact in a civil manner
    2. Do not tell others what to do, or what to post
    3. If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the modding to the mods

    In terms of thread content:

    4. Treat everything you read here with caution. Anything posted is from an anonymous internet poster. You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim
    5. Statistics are important to some (and I personally pay a lot of attention to them), but they are of very little use to anyone who is already caught up in this, or indeed knows of people who are caught up
    6. Terms such as "sinus", "airborne", "aerosol" have little relevance at this time in this jurisdiction. Ultimately though if cases are discovered in Ireland please pay attention to the relevant authorities and what they advise/recommend, and not some randomer(s) on the internet

    All the above is me talking as a complete layman on the subject. Like everything in this thread do not treat it as chapter and verse, beyond paying attention to items 1-3 above

    Any questions please PM me - do not try and dissect this post in-thread
    Beasty wrote: »
    Last time it was a "suggestion"/request

    Now it's an instruction

    Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

    Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread
    Beasty wrote: »
    OK

    A number of posts have been sanctioned although it could have been many more

    Could everyone please re-read the warnings in the OP

    Could I also re-emphasise - attack the post, not the poster

    I understand people can get very emotional about this sort of thing. Regardless of that there is no reason this cannot be discussed in a civil manner. Yes there are people implying there is little to worry about. Equally there are some doom and gloom merchants in the thread. Despite appearances I actually think most posters are probably somewhere in the middle recognising this is serious, but at this stage not overly so in Ireland

    Whatever your own views are please recognise others are entitled to different views., Even if at different extremes please do not try and repeatedly ram your views down the throats of those who have differing views

    In due course we may well have a far better understanding of this virus, but at present I do not think anyone can claim anything approaching a full understanding, and as always we need to take information posted by anonymous internet posters with a pinch of salt

    Any questions PM me
    Beasty wrote: »
    I'm opening this one up with a very clear warning. Cut out all this cover-up/conspiracy stuff. If you have a reliable source quote it (not just their words but provide a link to a reliable source) - otherwise your claims carry little if any weight
    Beasty wrote: »
    A reminder to everyone

    It is against site rules to seek or offer any medical advice. Please do not post here about your symptoms asking what to do. Contact your doctor by telephone and they can advise you as appropriate
    Beasty wrote: »
    A few reminders:

    1. Some posters have been less than civil in their posting - particularly in the last few hours. Continue interacting in an uncivil manner and your posting privileges will be removed

    2. Until something is reported "officially" treat anything you read here with suspicion. I am not saying posters are deliberately posting misleading or incorrect information, but this site, as well as other social media outlets cannot be considered "verifiable" news outlets. Of course if the likes of the HSE have a verified Twitter account we can assume what they post is accurate. Randomers on here or elsewhere cannot be considered "official" or "reliable" sources

    3. I have little doubt there is some kind of lag in reporting "official" updates to numbers as I equally have little doubt there will be procedures to follow before any case becomes formally "confirmed". Hence you may feel you have information that contradicts any "official" information. That's not necessarily the case - it may be that you have access to information before others. Regardless of that do not post it as an actual case here. We can only go by official updates and you can expect others to be sceptical about anything not coming from an official source. That does not make your information wrong, but it needs to be formally verified before you should be claiming anything is "fact"

    All threadbans carry over, but we will reconsider if anyone wishes to discuss it further via PM

    Please remember we have a Conspiracy Theories forum for speculation. Treat any information posted here as if it's from an anonymous internet poster. No-one is an expert here whatever they may claim. Please provide reliable sources where you can, and if you cannot please caveat your claims accordingly


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    First post of the thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


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  • Site Banned Posts: 38 ChurchtownMan


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Italy locked down the initial cluster immediately, the village was surrounded by police cars, people couldn't get in or out. Unfortunately it was too late already because new clusters were popping up everywhere.

    Any country that wants to criticise Italy can only do so if it has proven that whatever cases have emerged for them, they have handled it, shut down the spread, and are sure they have all cases in quaranteen.
    In short, there is no such country known to be in that position.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,442 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Can we have a stricter policy against posters insulting those of us merely providing news and updates?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    Any word on the alleged exposure to the virus at the Blindboy gig?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,442 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Someone mentioned Drogheda at the end of the other thread. Any links or sources for that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Can we have a stricter policy against posters insulting those of us merely providing news and updates?

    Look nobody cares that there is a sale on in Penneys.;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 599 ✭✭✭transylman


    Boggles the mind that Patricks day parades have not been cancelled yet. They were postponed back in 2001 due to the uk foot and mouth outbreak, along with 6 nations moved back to autumn. Current situation would merit at least this level of response.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Any country that wants to criticise Italy can only do so if it has proven that whatever cases have emerged for them, they have handled it, shut down the spread, and are sure they have all cases in quaranteen.
    In short, there is no such country known to be in that position.


    Finally some sense
    In fact Italy, France and Germany manage to contain the initial few cases for more than a month before the inevitable outbreak

    We here are moving a lot faster


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,442 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Look nobody cares that there is a sale on in Penneys.;)

    I care. :angry:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


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    sums this thread up.

    I believe some are secretly enjoying this unfold in a weird way


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    MD1990 wrote: »
    sums this thread up.

    I believe some are secretly enjoying this unfold in a weird way

    Absolute nonsense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    transylman wrote: »
    Boggles the mind that Patricks day parades have not been cancelled yet. They were postponed back in 2001 due to the uk foot and mouth outbreak, along with 6 nations moved back to autumn. Current situation would merit at least this level of response.


    People seem more worried about flights from Malpensa than rubbing shulders with thousands of random strangers at the parade


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,204 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


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    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    MD1990 wrote: »
    sums this thread up.

    I believe some are secretly enjoying this unfold in a weird way

    You sound like Mr Trump. Oh if you are worried you obviously want people to die.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    MD1990 wrote: »
    sums this thread up.

    I believe some are secretly enjoying this unfold in a weird way

    Yes I am sure people think it's great fun.:rolleyes:

    Sitting there thinking to themselves when do I get it?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    MD1990 wrote: »
    sums this thread up.

    I believe some are secretly enjoying this unfold in a weird way

    Is this the:

    Thread: TERRORIST ATTACK HAS HAPPENED IN X
    Poster: Oh you just wet yourself every time there's a terrorist attack, don't you?

    Kind of shíte we are in for now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Italy locked down the initial cluster immediately, the village was surrounded by police cars, people couldn't get in or out. Unfortunately it was too late already because new clusters were popping up everywhere.

    By locking down the initial cluster i mean they should have locked down the whole metropolitan area rather than a few villages and actually enforced travel bans as well as public gathering restrictions (and as a side note they gained nothing by not doing it as now they end up having to do it anyway although what they are enforcing now is still milder than what China did with Wuhan at an earlier stage of the outbreak).

    What you describe above is as if China had just sent a few police cars around the neighbourhood of the original market an assumed that would do the trick ... before realising it was not enough when other parts of the country had started to see similar growth as Wuhan (but as opposed to Europe they managed to avoid that last bit). If you compare it to China Italy is a case of “too little, too late”.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,204 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    MD1990 wrote: »
    sums this thread up.

    I believe some are secretly enjoying this unfold in a weird way

    source.gif

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Someone mentioned Drogheda at the end of the other thread. Any links or sources for that?

    That was me. What evidence can I provide that you will believe? Should be in today's press release or tomorrow conference. Definitely 3 cases there at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Absolute nonsense.

    It's not nonsense, I am enjoying it, its exciting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    MD1990 wrote: »
    sums this thread up.

    I believe some are secretly enjoying this unfold in a weird way


    People mistake interest for enjoyment. You can see the same comments when a storm is coming on the weather threads and people are posting about it there.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,699 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Finally some sense
    In fact Italy, France and Germany manage to contain the initial few cases for more than a month before the inevitable outbreak

    We here are moving a lot faster

    Wouldn't be so sure about that?

    Example is guy in Cork. No travel abroad and no know contact with case so no immediate test for Covid-19. They could not figure out why he was ill...in and out of hospital....so eventually they decided to test for Covid-19. Bingo!

    That's how the virus gets past the 'controls' put in place and how we move on from the containment phase!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    US2 wrote: »
    That was me. What evidence can I provide that you will believe? Should be in today's press release or tomorrow conference. Definitely 3 cases there at the moment.

    I’m assuming you know these people. Are they doing ok?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,442 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    US2 wrote: »
    That was me. What evidence can I provide that you will believe? Should be in today's press release or tomorrow conference. Definitely 3 cases there at the moment.

    Not saying I don't believe it.

    Im asking what is your source? Word of mouth? Hospital itself?...


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,463 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Woke Hogan wrote: »
    Any word on the alleged exposure to the virus at the Blindboy gig?

    Apparently there were zero excited pre laugh inhales so unless you were sneezed on by the carrier :P
    Be graaaaaand!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    US2 wrote: »
    It's not nonsense, I am enjoying it, its exciting.

    Come back once you or an older relative have caught it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    US2 wrote: »
    That was me. What evidence can I provide that you will believe? Should be in today's press release or tomorrow conference. Definitely 3 cases there at the moment.

    In fairness without a link it's just hearsay.

    I'm expecting more cases because of the nature surrounding the last confirmed cases. I would be surprised if the guy in CUH has not infected numerous people. However you can't interrogate evidence if it isn't provided in the first place.
    givyjoe wrote: »
    Come back once you or an older relative have caught it.

    I think his post was tongue in cheek.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭ Katie Dirty Copperhead


    Bob24 wrote: »
    By locking down the initial cluster i mean they should have locked down the whole metropolitan area rather than a few villages and actually enforced travel bans as well as public gathering restrictions (and as a side note they gained nothing by not doing it as now they end up having to do it anyway although what they are enforcing now is still milder than what China did with Wuhan at an earlier stage of the outbreak).
    What whole metropolitan area exactly?


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