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09-07-2019, 09:46   #61
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Kinda hard to explain how you stand beside a turf fire for 5 mins and everything you own smells of it for weeks after.

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I will miss it, and coal. Nothing like an open fire. But both were back breaking work and filthy. I remember the smog back in the day. Like Victorian London some days.
We used to have a coal fire when I was a kid - indeed, it was dirty work setting the fire, and then cleaning it out afterwards. Plus, the amount of space you need to store the stuff (and whatever space you use as a coal shed will never be able to be used for anything else ever again, I imagine).

Had a fireplace in my last place - would never live in a place with one again. For the few times a year that you'd use it (when it makes your house stink of smoke), the rest of the time it makes your house colder.

Also, a fire in a fire place is an an extremely ineffective way of heating the house (most of the air used for the fire is cold air drawn down the chimney, making the room colder), and is associated with higher risks of various forms of cancer.

So yes, happy enough with my thermostat, anyway.
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09-07-2019, 09:52   #62
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I always thought it short sighted and unintelligent to literally burn your own country.

Sooner it stops the better.
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09-07-2019, 09:55   #63
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But turf is so much cheaper. Cost really should be considered when discussing efficiency.

Not wanting to split hairs, but that chart is really about efficacy, not efficiency.

You're literally comparing 1 tonne of turf to 1 tonne of oil, while ignoring cost -- a huge factor.
bet those cancerous growths on the lungs of Tullamore residents aint cheap
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Our family have cut turf for over 200 years, even under the British landlords, so our E.U. landlords and the Green Party gob****es can piss off if they think we are going to stop now
Thankfully such ignorance is dying out with education.
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Are they still using peat to generate electricity?? If so essentially we’re all using turf.
Well... it uses more power than it creates but it's primary purpose isn't creating electricity, it's creating employment in a region that is otherwise destitute.
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09-07-2019, 10:14   #66
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My brother still takes turf from the family plot. I don’t take many bags, but I will head down there some weekend to make a few bottles of poitín with himself.
Gas or turf for the stil?
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300 plus time and labour saving it, tending the fire, cleaning out ashes to heat a single room is cost efficient vs 500 to heat the rest of the house with no effort?
here, a solid fuel stove, that heats the water and the radiators. cooks my food.. and so little work attached with turf as it is light and cleaner than coal.
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Yeah burn timber we cut ourselves and turf.

I’m building a new house with heat pump, underfloor heating etc but still going to put a solid fuel stove in the living room with back boiler and burn turf and timber, a living room just isn’t the same or cosy without it. Also on cold winter evenings it can be taking the load of the heat pump (expensive electricity) and doing most of the house heating with timber (free) and turf (cheap).
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It has less energy released per tonne when burned compared to coal.
A tonne of coal and a tonne of turf is still a tonne. Bulk is irrelevant.
Thank you; that was what I was asking.

Turf for me always as my neighbour cuts and delivers it ... coal has to be bought in from 30 miles away then over on the ferry then to the house... Turf ash is fine too. I am happy with it .

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when we built our house 10 years ago, we went down the geothermal, AIr tightness route. Dont know why we put in a chimney cause its never used.
house is warm enough with out.

father still cuts it, but now this year. but i'm going with the brother on sat for a rake of loads of turf.

i dont mind going now, probably cause i know i dont have a bog, dont mind helping out.

its slowly being phased out, we have HUGE areas of blanket bog beside me, which no one is allowed cut on, which is probably right really, giving that the technology is there to make houses warm with out burning anything.. .

also, a lad down our way has the finest ash pile from turf. he must be dumping it in the same spot for a bout 40 years.
its about 5 foot high, and 12 foot long...
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The skylark won't have a bog to sing in if ya keep cutting at current rates.

Home home house still a turf centric heating system. Nothing else would work as cost effectively. Stone house, solid fuel range in the centre of house. House is even cold in the summer when there's no fire on.

New house beside it is air to water, no turf. Little bit of timber in a wood burning stove the very odd time.
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Gas or turf for the stil?
Turf for the still. And we use malted barley as well. Not sure there’s many still using turf when brewing the crathur, but it’s a family tradition for us.
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I used to live in the city and there was something great about gas, flick a switch and the heat comes on.

Now I live in the countryside. I don't cut, buy or burn turf myself. I buy briquettes for our living room stove and oil heats the rest of the house. So I can't take the high moral ground on the carbon footprint. If there were decent supports available I'd convert to a more modern set up.

Carbon footprint aside, one trivial thing that really bugs me is the amount of talk about the bog where I live. I helped an older neighbour bring home and throw in turf. We went to the pub for a drink and there were turf monsters in the pub talking sh1te about footing turf and then they started showing each other photos. Ffs...head melt.
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Our family have cut turf for over 200 years, even under the British landlords, so our E.U. landlords and the Green Party gob****es can piss off if they think we are going to stop now
My family were poor subsistence farmers for countless generations; I work in a nice comfortable office with aircon for (what would be for them) vast sums of money.

Progress is great.
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This year is alright, but 2018 was a particularly good vintage.
*presses fingertips and kisses them*

There are those who would try tell us that Irish people using the resources of Ireland is wrong. Is bodhar iad mo chluais rompu. Las an tine.
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