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View Poll Results: Would you support big change in RTE?
No, Things are fine the way they are 46 3.47%
Yes, Reduce salaries of presenters 383 28.91%
Yes, Reduce the number of channels, services, staff as well as reduce salaries of presenters 535 40.38%
Scrap RTE altogether 361 27.25%
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04-05-2018, 11:05   #31
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4166 people have to pay for their license just so Ryan Tubridy can have the salary he enjoys.
Thats a mind boggling figure for just one substandard presenter.
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04-05-2018, 11:09   #32
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They should be looking to reduce the fee, not increase it. OP is right - valuable land, vastly overpaid stars, tired formats, a catch up service which is terrible.

I'd be happy to pay a basic €50 per year, & the rest on a pay per view basis or something.
This is the way things are going and the big subscription TV stations such as Sky are terrified of it.

WWE has started the ball rolling on this one.
You used to have to pay SKY for Sky Sports to watch the WWE and then pay extra for PPV event such as Wrestlemania or the Royal Rumble.
Now you can go to the WWE directly and pay X amount a month and watch all the WWE you like including main events for a fraction of the cost over the Web.
IE SKY has been cut out of the picture.

Same applies for Netflix/Disney/Amazon prime web TV.
Subscription TV is dead, and the Broadcasters know this.
That's how far RTE are behind. It's not even funny.
They have absolutely nothing to offer anyone yet demand €160 off every household in the state.
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04-05-2018, 11:15   #33
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This is the way things are going and the big subscription TV stations such as Sky are terrified of it.

WWE has started the ball rolling on this one.
You used to have to pay SKY for Sky Sports to watch the WWE and then pay extra for PPV event such as Wrestlemania or the Royal Rumble.
Now you can go to the WWE directly and pay X amount a month and watch all the WWE you like including main events for a fraction of the cost over the Web.
IE SKY has been cut out of the picture.

Same applies for Netflix/Disney/Amazon prime web TV.
Subscription TV is dead, and the Broadcasters know this.
That's how far RTE are behind. It's not even funny.
They have absolutely nothing to offer anyone yet demand €160 off every household in the state.
I am surprised that a club like Real Madrid or Barcelona has not migrated all their domestic games to their own TV channels/Networks and started charging fans for a season ticket. These are now global brands that could make a fortune directly if they did so.

That is the future of Sports as well I think.
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04-05-2018, 11:18   #34
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4166 people have to pay for their license just so Ryan Tubridy can have the salary he enjoys.
Thats a mind boggling figure for just one substandard presenter.
That's not even considering pensions, perks etc. I'd say it's considerably more than that!
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04-05-2018, 11:19   #35
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I wouldn't begrudge RTE the licence fee if they made an attempt to make decent prime time programming with some cultural/artistic/educational value which mightn't be the most commercially viable.... ala the BBC/BBC4.

Apart from news and current affairs, the RTE schedules are packed with so much commercial low brow dross it's unbelievable. They're not quite as bad as TV3/ITV but the only difference is they make a lot of their own, home produced crap. Case in point, this "Vogue does this" and "Vogue does that" phenomenon. Is this the kind of shíte we're paying for.

As for Tubridy, my chief pet peeve at RTE... Stealing a living. He'd work for a fifth of that salary because where in God's name would he go if they didn't renew his contract!

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04-05-2018, 11:29   #36
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I am surprised that a club like Real Madrid or Barcelona has not migrated all their domestic games to their own TV channels/Networks and started charging fans for a season ticket. These are now global brands that could make a fortune directly if they did so.

That is the future of Sports as well I think.
I agree. But it hasn't happened in soccer yet and probably wont for a long time.
It's because they need to carry the league
Spanish league is rubbish, 2.5 Teams carrying the rest (Real Madrid, Barcelona and maybe Athletico Madrid)
If they did the above as you said all the other teams would lose a huge amount of money unless they were playing one of those teams.
It's Biggest problem Soccer has at the moment - same teams winning all the time as they have huge investment.

It would need to be done by La Liga rather than the individual clubs.

I love the MotoGP Video pass. €150 for the season, (€7.90) a race. And I can customise my screen layout and watch which bikes I want (6 feeds).

When you look at what the WWE and MotoGP offer you realise the SKY are in big trouble should they ever lose the rights to the soccer.
It's only then you realise how far behind RTE are when compared with SKY and sport's leagues providing their own subscription services.
RTE in its current incarnation is well beyond End of Life, but it's being kept alive by the likes Dee Forbes and the state that are just terrified of what will happen if it were to ever change.
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04-05-2018, 11:50   #37
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2FM lost us nearly thirty million between 2009 and 2015.
Not sure what public service this station provides. Generic type pop music is at everyone's fingertips if they want it.https://www.boards.ie/
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04-05-2018, 11:51   #38
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At this moment, TG4 is showing Little House on the Prairie. Not dubbed. No subtitles. So, what's the point. Today's schedule is mostly foreign imports and repeats.
RTE television could be condensed into one channel, without any loss of domestic programming.
RTE should be channelling their energy into digital/online services, reducing their staffing levels and eliminating the excess fat( orchestra s, etc)
They used to show Oz years ago at all hours, it's the only good thing T na G did. Why in the hell are we paying for a channel that no one watches?
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04-05-2018, 12:03   #39
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We should have 2 TV stations and no more. One Irish, one English. And they should both show nothing but quality home produced content. Actual quality, no utter rubbish reality TV, no foreign sport, no imported shows that they have paid a fortune for and no endless chat shows. At the moment RTE seems to churn out nothing but expensive lotto shows and crap like 'up for the match'.

I would keep the orchestras though but they should be put on the road. If they could visit every small town in the country every could of years that would be amazing.

And obviously 2FM should be killed stone dead.

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04-05-2018, 12:09   #40
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Why do they have to do a televised version of live radio 1 shows when these shows are also available on the Saorview platform. RTE News Now shows Morning Ireland then repeats a section of it then shows Sean o Rourke . The Late Debate is shown too. Makes for bad viewing as its filmed through a fish eye lens.
Leaders questions in the Dail gets mighty coverage RTE 1 RYE News Now and Oireachtas Tv broadcasting the same sh1te simultaneously. Joe Duffy got similar treatment during the snow. His radio show was taking up 2 tv channels as well.
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I would like to see more money spend on producing decent drama, and less on copying reality programmes from the UK; particularly the celeb versions as we just don't have that many real celebs here so they just end up looking like a poor relation of the original.

I also think the salaries that some presenters get are ridiculous. Some of them are good at what they do, but a lot of them aren't and are getting a ridiculous amount of taxpayer's money for doing something not very well.
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The salaries seem way too high and I don't think they should be justifying paying them based on notions of celebrity. If people want to go work for TV3 on a commercial basis and TV3 are willing to pay those kinds of fees, or if they're going to go off to the UK, let them go. There's plenty of new and interesting talent that the public service broadcaster SHOULD be nurturing anyway.

This is a very small market of 4.7 million people, not the UK with 67+ million people.
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04-05-2018, 12:19   #44
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Instead of looking for bigger handouts from us and also wanting to collect from revenue etc how about slashing their MASSIVE salaries? It's absolutely ridiculous that someone like Tubbs is on that money, he's a ****e presenter on Irish TV that nobody else in the world knows.

Also, the gender equality crap Sharon what's her name was on about, Brian Dobson was paid more because he was doing it much, much longer than she was and he was much better at it. I never watch the news but when I did she stuttered or got her lines wrong. Slightly off topic, but feck off with your gender nonsense, she simply wasn't as good so doesn't deserve the same pay.

They're all an overpaid shower who need a reality check. Cut salaries and let staff go like every other company short on money.

And not forgetting the cost increases RTE is pressuring the likes of Sky with for the luxury of having their channel, anyone know if this went ahead? Should be dropped to be honest.
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I am surprised that a club like Real Madrid or Barcelona has not migrated all their domestic games to their own TV channels/Networks and started charging fans for a season ticket. These are now global brands that could make a fortune directly if they did so.

That is the future of Sports as well I think.
Because opposition clubs would hold RM/Barça to ransom for their share of the rights to a game.

Better to negotiate as a complete league with a third party and divide it according to 'weight'.
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