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View Poll Results: Would you support big change in RTE?
No, Things are fine the way they are 46 3.47%
Yes, Reduce salaries of presenters 383 28.91%
Yes, Reduce the number of channels, services, staff as well as reduce salaries of presenters 535 40.38%
Scrap RTE altogether 361 27.25%
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11-07-2019, 22:57   #1786
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Lyons GREEN label lad...seriously good brew ! A MUST for us early risers !
Barry’s loose leaf Classic Blend ... feel guilt every time I pour a cup, fine geal tea ... the poor dogs
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They redeemed themselves with me with the recent rte1 investigates programme about the greyhound cruelty.
It doesn't redeem RTE. What it does is demonstrate that public television licencing should be dedicated to creating and generating quality content.

I.e. the licence money is used to buy in independent content so that an independent company can focus on such investigates programmes, not to basically overpay "TV stars". With some competition we could get quality talent that is paid appropriately.
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12-07-2019, 00:08   #1789
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It doesn't redeem RTE. What it does is demonstrate that public television licencing should be dedicated to creating and generating quality content..
Maybe if they did it 20 years ago not 10 years after it was already exposed

RTE hasn't done anything unique in investigative journalism in decades if ever. They just get on the bandwagon of what other journalists uncover. That is just plain lazy
Look at Dispatches, Panorama etc for what they should be doing.

Even when they do political debates they are laughable with piss poor presenters who know nothing about their subject matter
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It doesn't redeem RTE. What it does is demonstrate that public television licencing should be dedicated to creating and generating quality content.

I.e. the licence money is used to buy in independent content so that an independent company can focus on such investigates programmes, not to basically overpay "TV stars". With some competition we could get quality talent that is paid appropriately.
An argument often used is if these so-called 'stars' are not paid enough, they will leave and cannot be replaced. Well, they are not that special! Pat Kenny, an overrated broadcaster, for example left and RTE carried on. Surely, the same with the rest. I DOUBT if Kenny got anything near as big from his current employers as he got in his RTE hayday?
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I also noticed during an ad break when watching The Handmaid's Tale last night an ad about the late Laura Brennan pushing the cervical cancer vaccine. At the end of the ad, it revealed something about the licence fee. Using a dead person to guilt-trip people into paying the licence fee is the latest trick and an insult to Laura and her family.
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Watched a bit of the twink thing earlier, I'd do life in guantanomo before I'd ever pay the licence again
There is something about her that just makes you want to put your foot through the telly. It's a horrible thing to say, but there really is. I gave that show a go, and I stuck with it for a bit trying to figure it out. I just can't put my finger on it. There's something about her that is incredibly infuriating. It's this auroa of looking at herself in the mirror with an undeserved sense of self accomplishment. I'm like hello Adele, you are not Elaine Paige and but for the sh't show that is RTE you'd be no where. Absolutely no where.

The modern day equivalent, albeit in a different area, is that Donal Skehan guy. Zero talent in his case though. At least Twink had a basic level. Donal Skehan tried his hand at absolutely everything, and with RTE all the way behind him. Utter, utter nepotism.
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The modern day equivalent, albeit in a different area, is that Donal Skehan guy. Zero talent in his case though. At least Twink had a basic level. Donal Skehan tried his hand at absolutely everything, and with RTE all the way behind him. Utter, utter nepotism.
Works or has worked for the BBC, UKTV, The Food Channel, Swedish TV and RTE.

Has 3 quarter of a million followers on Youtube and has produced more than half a dozen best selling books.

Don't know him or like his cooking stuff, but if RTE found more like him we may not be making such losses.
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Don't know him or like his cooking stuff, but if RTE found more like him we may not be making such losses.
Problem is when you make massive cuts you find yourself repeat much of the shows he presents.

This is where it is important to understand that RTÉ needs reformation. Throwing money at it will not change its structures.

As I pointed out the cuts to Children's programming causes damage to RTÉ ability to train new people, while Donal didn't come from Young People's many of their presenters did Ray D'Arcy, Cathrine Thomas, Ryle Nugent, the work of Double Z and associated characters and so on.

The same goes for Drama. Not only are they core to a public service broadcaster they are also provide a training ground.

Not that either should just be used a a training ground.
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An argument often used is if these so-called 'stars' are not paid enough, they will leave and cannot be replaced. Well, they are not that special! Pat Kenny, an overrated broadcaster, for example left and RTE carried on. Surely, the same with the rest. I DOUBT if Kenny got anything near as big from his current employers as he got in his RTE hayday?
Pat Kenny is an excellent broadcaster. Probably the best around on Irish or British radio for serious discussion / debate. The notion that everyone that's ever walked through the gates of montrose are rubbish is a nonsense one. Are they grossly overpaid? Yes undoubtedly but thats a different matter altogether. Mariane Finucane is a other example of a very overpaid but very good quality broadcaster.

I think Tubridy is very poor considering his pay but if he sticks to more light hearted stuff then he's fine. The problem with the late late is more the quality of guests they get. 90 percent of them were just rounded up in the rte canteen and people just don't care. To be fair, in a small country like ours it's very hard compete with the likes of BBC with big international guests.
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To be fair, in a small country like ours it's very hard compete with the likes of BBC with big international guests.
It's impossible to compete with London.

Big Stars and big Movies have their premiers in London normally midweek.

They sit in a hotel all day doing 10 minute interviews, then they make a brief appearance at the Premier and then it is off to a pre recorded version of the Graham Show. Irish Entertainment journalists travel to London for the interview.

The Late Late Show is unique, it's a live broadcast on a Friday night. They can't compete given the stars won't do media in Ireland and they certainly won't do it at such a specific time.

It's led to some pre-recorded interviews shoe horned into a live show, which seem rather flat TBH.

The Late Late show is also a completely different format to Norton or Ross, which IMO is getting pretty stale.

Big Star comes on tells a "witty story" to hock a product while Norton and Ross say rude things in the background.

Big celebrity love fest on the coach.

The Late Late show has turned into a bit of a misery fest, but some of the stories are very compelling, very real and very important to tell.

Turbidy isn't actually that bad, doing an interview with a young girl who has 4 weeks to live and then switching track to laugh at Pat Short is not an easy thing to do.

It's a tough gig.
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The Late Late show has turned into a bit of a misery fest, but some of the stories are very compelling, very real and very important to tell.

Turbidy isn't actually that bad, doing an interview with a young girl who has 4 weeks to live and then switching track to laugh at Pat Short is not an easy thing to do.

It's a tough gig.
I agree, but Tub's is bored with it, even if they have a light entertainer on they have a set of serious questions. And there is no need for a second epsiode

The last good interview on Graham Norton was with Kevin Costner who came in at the end and really didn't want to be there.

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I can remember in Gaybos time the Late Late had lots of A list celebrities.
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I can remember in Gaybos time the Late Late had lots of A list celebrities.
He'd more variety of guests and items, they seem to know what they could get and what they couldn't get.

Has Tubs had a stand up do a routine on the show? Gay had more audience participation than either Pat or Tubs. Gay had panels of guests.

Tubs just seems to want to bring on the Parents of a dead person, who died tragically. Or how someone came over the odds of something in the there life and are now much better for it.
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I can remember in Gaybos time the Late Late had lots of A list celebrities.
There was also way less competition. I mean, you could,reasonably, justify having two chat shows. Gay Byrne on a Friday, Pat Kenny on a Saturday.
The reason being you had celebrities who wanted to promote their movies, hawk their wares, or promote their books.

The internet wasn't around, many folks didn't have Sky or any other channels, so celebrities HAD to come here to promote their movies. Otherwise they might miss out on an audience ie money.

Nowadays, folks have access to Graham Norton, or even James Corden on the 'other' Late Late show. And the celebrities don't have to come over here.
Like, if you look at an interview by Gay Byrne(there's a fantastic one with Billy Connolly that was taken down from youtube...jerks) you'd see him getting folks to relax and then he'd interview them.

Meanwhile, this interview with the 'Dice Man' aka Tom McGinty is a fascinating insight into a really scary time, tbqh.



McGinty was diagnosed with HIV, which, sadly, was going to become AIDS. (It was years away from a cure). He wasn't in the best of shape, but kept much of those details away from the public eye.
The interview was from 1995, according to a comment on youtube. McGinty died in 1995.

Despite the seriousness of the subject matter, look how Gay Byrne treats it-it's not 'oh woe is me' it's more 'thank you for being The Diceman'.
Tubridy couldn't do this type of interview-he straight up would not be able to.
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