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"Man-made" Climate Change Lunathicks Out in Full Force

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  • #32
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 36,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Creative83 wrote: »
    Your hero, Al Gore... what did he say would happen in ten years from 2003?

    The tone of your posts suggests otherwise and I really, really should know better than to ask but have you any facts at all to support your argument? Randomers in Youtube videos do not count. I mean actual Geographical, Geological or Meteorological evidence that's been published in peer-reviewed journals.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • #33
    DickSwiveller Returns
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller Returns


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    The tone of your posts suggests otherwise and I really, really should know better than to ask but have you any facts at all to support your argument? Randomers in Youtube videos do not count. I mean actual Geographical, Geological or Meteorological evidence that's been published in peer-reviewed journals.

    Do you?


  • #34
    Harry Palmr
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    Weather and climate are 2 different things.

    I know that but I ask the question for a reason.


  • #35
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Creative83 wrote: »
    It is sad to see that you have been taken in, hook line and sinker

    What are your credentials?

    What's your publication impact? What area of research do you specialise in?


  • #36
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Creative83 wrote: »
    It is sad to see that you have been taken in, hook line and sinker

    So what’s the plan when all the fossil fuels are used up?


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  • #37
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    The 97 per cent figure has been debunked many times. It was a survey of a tiny few scientists and many didb't even reply.
    If it's not 97% then what is it then? Reliable source please.
    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    Climate change has become one of the causes that the liberal left have attached themselves to. Like most issues these people become attached to it has become a sort of cult. Anyone who even questions the consensus is labelled a 'denier' There are climate scientists in top US colleges who complain that funding is only given to scientists who accept human caused climate change and some are even afraid to voice their opinion for fear of the backlash.
    Proof please?
    Creative83 wrote: »
    Yep, because they are employed to prove it.... any contrary opinion is hounded out
    Employed by who exactly?


  • #38
    Creative83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭Creative83


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    The tone of your posts suggests otherwise and I really, really should know better than to ask but have you any facts at all to support your argument? Randomers in Youtube videos do not count. I mean actual Geographical, Geological or Meteorological evidence that's been published in peer-reviewed journals.

    Whatever, listen, you take it up the arse... carbon taxes and all of this bull****.


  • #39
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    Do you?

    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


  • #40
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    No, I like questioning things rather than attaching myself to causes that are currently fashionable. Read the link I sent. he explains why it's horse****

    Climate change isnt fashionable. next.


  • #41
    Thoughtform
    Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Thoughtform


    "The left believe it" is not valid reason to deny it. Forget about obsessing over where on the political divide people occupy and do some research. "It's all bollocks because I don't want to believe it" isn't a counter-argument either.

    I'm not particularly left-wing, and I hope it's not the case - and maybe it isn't (I am allowing for doubt) but I can't deny the evidence either.


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  • #42
    DickSwiveller Returns
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller Returns


    Twenty Grand;107644217]If it's not 97% then what is it then? Reliable source please.

    I've no idea what it is, but, like the gender pay gap, the 97 figure is 100 per cent bull.
    Proof please?
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/02/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne/


  • #43
    DickSwiveller Returns
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller Returns


    Thoughtform wrote: »
    "The left believe it" is not valid reason to deny it. Forget about obsessing over where on the political divide people occupy and do some research. "It's all bollocks because I don't want to believe it" isn't a counter-argument either.

    I'm wary of cults, and people who get very attached to issues to the point that they can't bear any dissent. Why do people who have no idea about climate express such certainty that man made climate change is real? Are we allowed question it?


  • #44
    WinnyThePoo
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    I've no idea what it is, but, like the gender pay gap, the 97 figure is 100 per cent bull.


    https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/02/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne/

    So the 97 percent figure is bull because something completely irrelevant you think is bull also.

    So we've got

    You like to do your own research
    Climate change is fashionable
    Something about gender pay gap


  • #45
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    So the 97 percent figure is bull because something completely irrelevant you think is bull also.

    So we've got

    You like to do your own research
    Climate change is fashionable
    Something about gender pay gap

    Also add the author of the National Review article he linked is a cartoonist with no more experience in climate change than myself.


  • #46
    DickSwiveller Returns
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller Returns


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    So the 97 percent figure is bull because something completely irrelevant you think is bull also.

    So we've got

    You like to do your own research
    Climate change is fashionable
    Something about gender pay gap

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#5eabc3f33f9f

    He completely debunks the propoganda


  • #47
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 36,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    Do you?

    I didn't start the thread nor make any of the claims.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • #48
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Can I place a wager that the OP is a flat Earther?


  • #49
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#5eabc3f33f9f

    He completely debunks the propoganda
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/may/03/is-the-climate-consensus-97-999-or-is-plate-tectonics-a-hoax

    And here's a more recent one that agrees with me.


  • #50
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    jaxxx wrote: »
    Can I place a wager that the OP is a flat Earther?

    Didn't 97% of scientists at one time also claim the the earth was flat?


  • #51
    GreeBo
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    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Listen from 2:30 minute mark.


    Wow, that was pretty pathetic from "I'm a scientist" McElhinney.

    Bangs on about the 98% figure being nonsense as there is no list but then 2 minutes later uses "Everyone knows that Europe is failing" as the basis of her argument.

    :rolleyes:


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  • #52
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Wow, that was pretty pathetic from "I'm a scientist" McElhinney.

    Bangs on about the 98% figure being nonsense as there is no list but then 2 minutes later uses "Everyone knows that Europe is failing" as the basis of her argument.

    :rolleyes:


    Is she wrong about the 98%?


  • #53
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Didn't 97% of scientists at one time also claim the the earth was flat?
    That's the thing. The climate change alarmists are just like the clerics who hounded Gallileo. They don't want their interpretation challenged. A lot of this has to do with the power of conventional wisdom/fashion and very little to do with actually thinking for themselves.


  • #54
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Didn't 97% of scientists at one time also claim the the earth was flat?

    Nope.


  • #55
    GreeBo
    Registered Users Posts: 26,985 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Is she wrong about the 98%?

    About the veracity of the figure or how it was arrived it?


  • #56
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    That's the thing. The climate change alarmists are just like the clerics who hounded Gallileo. They don't want their interpretation challenged. A lot of this has to do with the power of conventional wisdom/fashion and very little to do with actually thinking for themselves.

    TBF you just read like a contrarian for the sake of it.

    Hey man, I'm no sheep. Who are scientists to tell me me stuff. I'll believe what I want to believe.


  • #57
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    That's the thing. The climate change alarmists are just like the clerics who hounded Gallileo. They don't want their interpretation challenged. A lot of this has to do with the power of conventional wisdom/fashion and very little to do with actually thinking for themselves.
    Total bullsh*t and equating the 17th century church to modern scientists is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.


  • #58
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    That's the thing. The climate change alarmists are just like the clerics who hounded Gallileo. They don't want their interpretation challenged. A lot of this has to do with the power of conventional wisdom/fashion and very little to do with actually thinking for themselves.


    It's something else to make money from. I hear the green party want to put an extra €2 on a bag of coal this year, saying people wont be affected by it.

    I wonder would they saying that if they had only the state pension to live on?


  • #59
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    GreeBo wrote: »
    About the veracity of the figure or how it was arrived it?

    How it was arrived at.


  • #60
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Twenty Grand wrote: »
    Total bullsh*t and equating the 17th century church to modern scientists is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.


    That's what the 17th century scientists were saying about the 11th century scientists.


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  • #61
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    That's what the 17th century scientists were saying about the 11th century scientists.

    Which 17th century scientists about which 11th century scientists?


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