Snow-ice Warning for Ireland 13 / 14 Dec 2017

redsteveireland · 14-12-2017 12:16am

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Some thunderous gusts of wind here now, with 10 min mean speed shooting up to 20 knots in minutes. Where did this come from???

Edit: make that 22 knots mean currently.

Had a bit of that alright. Tis a dirty one. Heavy sleet shower here, such a waste.

Gonzo · 14-12-2017 12:42am

showers mostly of rain from now on, temps up to 6 or 7c widely across the west already.

Today was another cold, damp mess here in County Meath, similar to most days over the past 2 weeks.

I don't mind the mild coming back in a few days, I want a serious change in the weather and if it's going to be really cold, I want it to snow properly to make it all worthwhile. There is nothing worse than dark days with temperatures close to 0C when all you get is rain and the sleety splotches on the window.

Gaoth Laidir · 14-12-2017 2:05am

Gonzo wrote: »

showers mostly of rain from now on, temps up to 6 or 7c widely across the west already.

Today was another cold, damp mess here in County Meath, similar to most days over the past 2 weeks.

I don't mind the mild coming back in a few days, I want a serious change in the weather and if it's going to be really cold, I want it to snow properly to make it all worthwhile. There is nothing worse than dark days with temperatures close to 0C when all you get is rain and the sleety splotches on the window.

A northwesterly rarely delivers. This one was no different. There just wasn't any signal there for real snow down to low levels. Sleety splotches, as you call them, is about the best we could hope for. Rain showers with embedded snowy downdrafts.

Gonzo · 14-12-2017 3:00am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

A northwesterly rarely delivers. This one was no different. There just wasn't any signal there for real snow down to low levels. Sleety splotches, as you call them, is about the best we could hope for. Rain showers with embedded snowy downdrafts.

I wasn't expecting much anyway, North-Westerly's rarely deliver anything other than sleety mess or temporary dustings and any lying snow doesn't hang around for long.

At this stage all I want is a severe easterly with winds howling from central Siberia sometime in January or early February. It really is the only guarantee of proper snow, it's been 7 years, we are overdue it, even a 2 day event would be enough to fulfill the snow fix for this season.

Pangea · 14-12-2017 5:26am

Portlaoise didn't do too bad
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1399460686830343&id=161588103950947

Gaoth Laidir · 14-12-2017 8:13am

Pangea wrote: »

Portlaoise didn't do too bad
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1399460686830343&id=161588103950947

It's at around 100 m amsl and it looks like pretty messy. I'd say 5 minutes later is was gone. I wouldn't class rain that briefly turns to wet snow like that something to get excited about. For me, it's snowing when all precipitation is only snow.

Yesterday we had the temperatures for snow but not the dewpoints. It was raining at 1 °C. The earlier rain just left too much moisture in the ground and air for snow to survive, but also the source airmass near Greenland was not near cold enough to begin with. A sea fetch of almost 2000 km always pointed at too much modification, regardless of what rain fell before it arrived.

Oneiric 3 · 14-12-2017 11:55am

Towers as seen from my window at the moment:

Got as black as night here about 45 mins ago as one shower passed over. Never seen anything like it.

nagdefy · 14-12-2017 7:48pm

Heavy snowfall in my home place, south east Laois, yesterday evening, last night and this morning. My niece and nephew had their 4th consecutive day off school. Cars couldn't get to the road and a few people who did got stuck.

It has been an extraordinarily potent north westerly for us. My nephew and niece, 8 and 6, cried because they wanted to go to school!!! Cabin fever!

Some pics from today Wednesday morning 14th December.

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nagdefy · 14-12-2017 7:57pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

It's at around 100 m amsl and it looks like pretty messy. I'd say 5 minutes later is was gone. I wouldn't class rain that briefly turns to wet snow like that something to get excited about. For me, it's snowing when all precipitation is only snow.

Yesterday we had the temperatures for snow but not the dewpoints. It was raining at 1 °C. The earlier rain just left too much moisture in the ground and air for snow to survive, but also the source airmass near Greenland was not near cold enough to begin with. A sea fetch of almost 2000 km always pointed at too much modification, regardless of what rain fell before it arrived.

It actually lasted for a couple of hours. A big backlog of traffic out the Stradbally road and at the Windy Gap as a van got stuck and a car who tried to pass to the side got stuck. It was gone off the roads by 6pm or so. Over 2 hours from 3.30-6pm were tricky around the town. It was the intensity of the fall that surprised. And it was difficult driving in the town. I'm pretty used to driving in snow and there were people skidding and sliding. Defo not a 5 min wonder.

P.s. That video was taken at 15.20 yesterday. At 16.00 it was a much snowier picture. That clip was just after the transition.

Gaoth Laidir · 14-12-2017 8:48pm

Ok, so better than I thought there. Certainly wasn't pretty in most other areas, not least Dublin. In Tallaght at the the same time it was just plain awful, with cold sleety rain. I think only Mullingar, Ballyhaise and Knock were the only stations with any reports of snow (but even at these the vast majority were rain).

I assume your house is located on higher ground near Killeshin area?

nagdefy · 14-12-2017 9:34pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Ok, so better than I thought there. Certainly wasn't pretty in most other areas, not least Dublin. In Tallaght at the the same time it was just plain awful, with cold sleety rain. I think only Mullingar, Ballyhaise and Knock were the only stations with any reports of snow (but even at these the vast majority were rain).

I assume your house is located on higher ground near Killeshin area?

It started out as a mess alright but it kept piling down Gaoth.

Yes it's at the top of the Killeshin hills. I can't recall a north westerly like this. As you said dew points, fetch etc all seemed against us. The altitude was there alright but we've had similar setups with less shower activity and less wintriness.

The only comparable event i can think of was a north westerly on Monday 10/11 January 1993.

pauldry · 15-12-2017 12:58am

Id prefer what wev got in the 1st half of December to what were getting inbthe 2nd.

Seen more snow in past week that past 3 years so not bad especially Saturday Sunday