Micky Jackson in trouble again

Atoms for Peace · 27-01-2019 10:12am #1

A new documentary about alleged abuse is going to be screened at Sundance amid death threats.
https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/0125/1025482-police-on-high-alert-for-michael-jackson-doc-screening/

I have to admit that even in the current climate I'm still skeptical of the motivation behind the allegations aimed at Michael Jackson.
Yes he was a complete wacko but still he's one of the greatest musicians of the last century. His "wackyness" I'm sympathetic to due to his exploitation at the hands of his parents and then the music industry and media.

Guy:Incognito · 27-01-2019 10:14am

I'm guessing being in trouble wont affect him much at this stage............

VeryTerry · 27-01-2019 10:16am

On the balance of things there seems to have been more wrong than right with him.

vicwatson · 27-01-2019 10:31am

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

A new documentary about alleged abuse is going to be screened at Sundance amid death threats.
https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/0125/1025482-police-on-high-alert-for-michael-jackson-doc-screening/

I have to admit that even in the current climate I'm still skeptical of the motivation behind the allegations aimed at Michael Jackson.
Yes he was a complete wacko but still he's one of the greatest musicians of the last century. His "wackyness" I'm sympathetic to due to his exploitation at the hands of his parents and then the music industry and media.

“Musicians”? Did he even play an instrument?

IsaacWunder · 27-01-2019 10:33am

vicwatson wrote: »

“Musicians”? Did he even play an instrument?

Just his flute.

Atoms for Peace · 27-01-2019 10:34am

vicwatson wrote: »

“Musicians”? Did he even play an instrument?

noun
a person who plays a musical instrument, especially as a profession, or is musically talented.

Hoboo · 27-01-2019 10:40am

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Yes he was a complete wacko but still he's one of the greatest musicians of the last century

He was sleeping with kids. That's not wacko. That's paedo.

NIMAN · 27-01-2019 10:41am

Couple of guys in their 30s claiming they were abused by MJ.

Wonder how much they are suing his estate for?

Easy to make claims against a dead man.

foxy06 · 27-01-2019 10:49am

If I was letting our pre teen boys stay overnight in a grown mans house and this grown man will be sleeping in same room, most likely same bed, and his house is set up like a fun park to keep our boys and other boys entertained I would be told I was an idiot as this is obviously grooming for child abuse. I would probably be blamed for allowing it. But because it's Michael Jackson and he's had a few good songs then people don't want to see the bad side of him.

foxy06 · 27-01-2019 10:54am

wrecked_rectum wrote:

The parents wanted there children abused, get that sweet hush money of Jackson , set them up for life

I can't believe that many parents would allow their kids to be abused. There's been more than a few kids reporting it. If parents did allow it they should be prosecuted.

Irish Guitarist · 27-01-2019 11:14am

Are you more willing to believe his innocence because you like his music? If you heard a story about a man who wasn't famous building an amusement park at his house, inviting children over and sleeping in the same bed as them would you believe for a second he wasn't abusing them?

Similarly if someone who was a shelf stacker in Tesco (rather than being the songwriter and guitar player with The Who) paid for child pornography and claimed it was for 'research' would anyone believe them?

I like Billie Jean and Beat It as much as the next man but I think the chances of him not being a child molester are slim to none. His acquittal means nothing to me.

Irish Guitarist · 27-01-2019 11:23am

vicwatson wrote: »

“Musicians”? Did he even play an instrument?

He's credited as playing guitar, keyboards and percussion on History.

https://www.allmusic.com/album/history-past-present-and-future-book-i-mw0000123992/credits

goat2 · 27-01-2019 11:29am

He had no need to sleep with these children, he had a big house with plenty bedrooms,
I would not let my children sleep with anyone in any house and that includes my own, even when I had visitors, I would let the visitors sleep in the children's rooms, but the children would be sleeping in my room, and on the floor if needs be, which did happen,

I thought that was very strange, did the parents know that he was sharing beds with these children

suicide_circus · 27-01-2019 11:32am

I think we're forgetting something very important in all of this. Okay, sure, he touched some children, but the man is a great singer and he has entertained us for so many years.All this baad-mouthin' and puttin' the man down. Maybe he did touch some children now and then, but come on! It's Michael Jackson! Michael Jackson!

BeerWolf · 27-01-2019 11:33am

It's ignorance is ignorance!

*Waving arms about*

goat2 · 27-01-2019 11:35am

suicide_circus wrote: »

I think we're forgetting something very important in all of this. Okay, sure, he touched some children, but the man is a great singer and he has entertained us for so many years.All this baad-mouthin' and puttin' the man down. Maybe he did touch some children now and then, but come on! It's Michael Jackson! Michael Jackson!

You must be joking,
I don't care what profession be it a singer, or an out of work person, or the pope, same rules apply,

Teddy Daniels · 27-01-2019 11:38am

goat2 wrote: »

You must be joking,
I don't care what profession be it a singer, or an out of work person, or the pope, same rules apply,

They were clearly joking!

Toots · 27-01-2019 11:41am

goat2 wrote: »

You must be joking,
I don't care what profession be it a singer, or an out of work person, or the pope, same rules apply,

It's a South Park quote

Sleeper12 · 27-01-2019 11:45am

He's dead & can't defend himself. I was never a fan of his but I do believe he should be left alone. It must be very hurtful for his children with stuff like this surfacing again

IsaacWunder · 27-01-2019 11:49am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

He's dead & can't defend himself. I was never a fan of his but I do believe he should be left alone. It must be very hurtful for his children with stuff like this surfacing again

<cough> Jimmy Saville

Atlantic Dawn · 27-01-2019 11:50am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

He's dead & can't defend himself. I was never a fan of his but I do believe he should be left alone. It must be very hurtful for his children with stuff like this surfacing again

Jimmy Saville couldn't defend himself either.

VeryTerry · 27-01-2019 11:51am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

He's dead & can't defend himself. I was never a fan of his but I do believe he should be left alone. It must be very hurtful for his children with stuff like this surfacing again

So is Jimmy Saville. Justice for the victims trumps any hurt the family might feel.

Sleeper12 · 27-01-2019 11:55am

Atoms for Peace wrote:

A new documentary about alleged abuse is going to be screened at Sundance amid death threats.

IsaacWunder wrote:

Jimmy Saville

Atlantic Dawn wrote:

Jimmy Saville couldn't defend himself either.

Michael Jackson was already cleared of charges by a court. Several of the big name kids he was friends with to this day go on the record stating nothing happened.

Huge difference between Jackson and Saville.

Sleeper12 · 27-01-2019 12:01pm

VeryTerry wrote:

So is Jimmy Saville. Justice for the victims trumps any hurt the family might feel.

There was more than enough evidence to set up the Jimmy Savile inquiry.

There is no such evidence with Michael Jackson. If there was there would be an inquiry. If there was evidence these 30 something adults making the claims would sue the Jackson estate in a civil court. They love to do this in the states

IsaacWunder · 27-01-2019 12:04pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Michael Jackson was already cleared of charges by a court. Several of the big name kids he was friends with to this day go on the record stating nothing happened.

Huge difference between Jackson and Saville.

Jackson settled a civil case in 1993 for $22 million.

Sleeper12 · 27-01-2019 12:16pm

IsaacWunder wrote:

Jackson settled a civil case in 1993 for $22 million.

I sacked a guy for stealing from the till. Had it on cctv. He brings me to labour court. Arbitrator advised me to make a payment to him as a full hearing could have me not being able to work for several days due to court appearances. I paid. I sacked him because he stole & I had video proof but I payed.

Sometimes paying is easier. A mistake in Jacksons case imo. You will also notice that it was an out of court settlement & he was not found guilty nor did he admit guilt.

The law of the land says that he's not guilty & is entitled to the assumption of innocence

His accusers today aren't bringing his estate to court. There is no evidence for an inquiry or investigation.

Never liked his music and I thought him a dope but you have to look at these things and look at the bigger picture. There is no inquiry, investigation or civil action. Why do you suppose that is?

TheValeyard · 27-01-2019 12:17pm

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I'm guessing being in trouble wont affect him much at this stage............

He's not dead. Your just ignorant.

TheValeyard · 27-01-2019 12:18pm

BeerWolf wrote: »

It's ignorance is ignorance!

*Waving arms about*

Damn it, beaten to it!!!

Irish Guitarist · 27-01-2019 12:21pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

He's dead & can't defend himself. I was never a fan of his but I do believe he should be left alone. It must be very hurtful for his children with stuff like this surfacing again

Poor Blanket.

retro:electro · 27-01-2019 12:35pm

There’s nothing innocent about a grown man sleeping in the same bed as young boys, having alarms and censors fitted so he knew when people were approaching his bedroom, and having his whole house kitted out like a children’s fantasy wonderland. He was a paedophile.

Sleeper12 · 27-01-2019 12:49pm

Irish Guitarist wrote:

Poor Blanket.

I've pitied those kids all their lives. They certainly can't claim to have had a normal upbringing or life. Paris has checked into rehab only recently

Micky Jackson in trouble again

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