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Will you travel? [Mod Note in Post #1 - Travel Discussion Only! Megathread]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭tbayers


    Yup nothing to see here at all, just cities with millions of people on lock down in China and to a lesser extent, same in Italy.

    Way more contagious than the flu, at least 10 times more likely to kill you compared to flu. It is potentially in Ireland already. Just passed through Dublin airport yesterday and not one precautionary measure, not even a sign or anything. People saying it isn't serious wont be repeating themselves when their town is on lock down after a few cases break out locally.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Going to Tenerife in July.

    Spoke with my travel agent yesterday on a different matter and brought up the subject.

    She informed me that in the event that our hotel is quarantined as per the hotel in the news, the hotel price will be refunded, but not the flights.

    Full holiday will only be refunded if the Department of Foreign Affairs issues a statement that the Island is a no-go.

    As it stands; I fully intend on going on my holiday.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    tbayers wrote: »
    Way more contagious than the flu, at least 10 times more likely to kill you compared to flu. It is in Ireland already. .

    Where are you getting this from?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    tbayers wrote: »
    Yup nothing to see here at all, just cities with millions of people on lock down in China and to a lesser extent, same in Italy.

    Way more contagious than the flu, at least 10 times more likely to kill you compared to flu. It is in Ireland already. Just passed through Dublin airport yesterday and not one precautionary measure, not even a sign or anything. People saying it isn't serious wont be repeating themselves when their town is on lock down after a few cases break out locally.

    My neighbours son was one of many Irish Erasmus students in University of Milan, they were all instructed to come home earlier this week as the University is closed until further notice.
    Milan is in the region where the virus first appeared, yet none of the students were tested or checked upon their arrival to Ireland.
    They're all home now, in their towns and villages across the country, and were just told to self quarantine if they feel sick. That's it.
    I wouldn't be a bit surprised if its already in Ireland when there's such little government interest in screening those who are coming into the country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭tbayers


    xzanti wrote: »
    Where are you getting this from?

    Changed my post.

    But based on stats and those that have returned from Northern Italy, Spain (where new cases are being reported on the hour now) etc it isn't crazy to presume that it exists here all ready, all be it not officially.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,682 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    Supposed to be going to Malaga with my family at the start of April, I've resigned myself to the fact we probably won't be going now.

    I'm hoping that flights will be cancelled at that stage so we might get a refund, otherwise quite a big loss money wise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,873 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Exactly, this is how its spreading.
    The young, fit healthy people aren't even realising that they are sick, or they think they just have a regular flu.
    So they are continuing to go about their business as normal, infecting the elderly, the immunocompromised, and small children, who could then potentially die from it.
    Those people are then at risk of spreading it to their families who may be looking after them, or healthcare workers.
    And so the cycle continues. This is exactly how this virus ended up in Europe in the first place.
    Just because you'll be fine if you get it, doesn't mean you can't pass it on to others who might become gravely ill.

    Probably all true. But unless we’re all going to simultaneously self quarantine for the next fortnight, then it’s going to continue. So if everyone else isn’t even considering taking it seriously, then I’m not going to take it seriously either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    ZiabR wrote: »
    It has a mortality rate of 10 times the Flu so it is much more serious. This was discussed at length on Newstalk yesterday.

    Which strain of "The Flu" is this comparison being made against ?

    It may also be useful to consider the role of "The Internet" in this current situation,particularly with Chinese Authorities being unusually co-operative in the earlier stages ?

    Without the 'Net,we most likely would'nt have the remotest notion of what a Coronavirus was,and would also be somewhat calmer as a result ?

    The Eyes of Darkness by Dean R Koontz,published in 1981,might provide a more accurate picture of the Wuhan virus than what's doing the rounds at the moment ?

    https://www.dailyexaminer.com.au/news/books-eerie-coronavirus-prediction/3954417/

    :eek:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Most certainly not, we were thinking of going to Italy this summer but won't go anywhere now, two small kids


  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭tbayers


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Which strain of "The Flu" is this comparison being made against ?

    It may also be useful to consider the role of "The Internet" in this current situation,particularly with Chinese Authorities being unusually co-operative in the earlier stages ?

    Without the 'Net,we most likely would'nt have the remotest notion of what a Coronavirus was,and would also be somewhat calmer as a result ?

    The Eyes of Darkness by Dean R Koontz,published in 1981,might provide a more accurate picture of the Wuhan virus than what's doing the rounds at the moment ?

    https://www.dailyexaminer.com.au/news/books-eerie-coronavirus-prediction/3954417/

    :eek:

    https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

    At these early stages it definitely has a higher mortality rate than the flu.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Going to the Canaries on Tuesday. Yep.
    Let us know if you survive , depending on your report I'll dewcide if I'll go at end of month :)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭andrew1977


    Amsterdam 10th March for me for a midweek break, unless a mass ramp up of this virus I am going !


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Most certainly not, we were thinking of going to Italy this summer but won't go anywhere now, two small kids

    I also have a family holiday booked to Lake Garda and Bergamo this summer and have 2 kids. Way too soon to decide one way or the other though. It may be gone by August, or it may be everywhere. In either case going will not be that big a deal.
    Certainly not cancelling accom until much nearer the time and when it gets near point where cancellation fee kicks in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    lozenges wrote: »
    Booked flights to France yesterday!

    That a bit silly now I heard they are doing a great deals on Milan.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    I should fly back to Ireland end of the month, I won't purchase anything for the next two weeks. This is the biggest financial stress test in history for airlines and cruise companies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Just off the phone with VHI where we have our Multi-trip Annual Policy.
    If the DFA advise not to travel to a certain area or whole country at 14 days from our intended Departure Date then we will be covered fully to cancel. Flights or Ferry and Accommodation. So, we will be waiting until 14 days before either trip to see how things are at that point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭rustynutz


    Heading for Krakow in the morning, it's inevitably going to reach the whole of Europe so why change plans on the small chance you may pick it up sooner rather than later?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,567 ✭✭✭quokula


    Got a holiday through a few central European countries booked in April. If it was today I'd go, if the situation has changed much by April I may reconsider. If it is looking worse where I'm planning to go I may look into using the time off to visit a different destination.

    Scheduled to be in London for a few days in March too for work, assuming that will go ahead as normal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭Feisar


    poolboy wrote: »
    Do you have any loved ones who are older or immuno compromised, not saying dont go i think you should as things stand but everyone has a responsibility to protect the vulnerable in communities.

    People are too self entitled for that shtick!

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,063 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Yes, although I may cancel and rebook my hotel booking for June if it drops in price at all.


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  • ZiabR wrote: »
    People seem to be forgetting how you actually get to your holiday destination. You may well be going to an area that has no cases or is very low risk BUT in order to get to your destination you have to pass through what is arguably the biggest cesspit in the world for possible infections (Airports and Planes). To the OP going to Prague, I would have no problem with being in Prague but I wouldn't be going based on the very fact I have to get there using 2 x Airports and 2 x Aircraft.

    I am not travelling anywhere for the foreseeable future, while I am not concerned about myself personally, I have young children and elderly parents to think about and it is just not worth the risk. Airports are a MASSIVE risk factor.

    Dub to Prg one flight.

    Airports are a risk. Use common sense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    rustynutz wrote: »
    Heading for Krakow in the morning, it's inevitably going to reach the whole of Europe so why change plans on the small chance you may pick it up sooner rather than later?

    Because even if it doesn't make you very sick, you could carry the virus home and spread it to someone who is elderly/immunocompromised, who might die from it?


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Are you traveling outside of Ireland in the next few weeks?will you go now because the coronavirus is getting worse or will you cancel?
    Im due to go to prague in 2 weeks and i don't know if i should?

    By the time two weeks comes you’ll have as much chance of bringing it with you as bringing it back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Stewball


    I've got a flight at the end of march to eastern Europe, I didn't buy travel insurance (I never do). Is there any point buying it now?

    If the flights are cancelled I'll get refund anyway - if they're not and I decide not to travel, will the insurance cover it?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,063 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Stewball wrote: »
    I've got a flight at the end of march to eastern Europe, I didn't buy travel insurance (I never do). Is there any point buying it now?

    If the flights are cancelled I'll get refund anyway - if they're not and I decide not to travel, will the insurance cover it?

    Insurance won't cover change of mind; and most policies will only pay out for a total travel ban - in which case the flights will be cancelled and refunded anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,567 ✭✭✭quokula


    Stewball wrote: »
    I've got a flight at the end of march to eastern Europe, I didn't buy travel insurance (I never do). Is there any point buying it now?

    If the flights are cancelled I'll get refund anyway - if they're not and I decide not to travel, will the insurance cover it?

    They won't cover it if you decide not to travel yourself. If government advises not to travel then they'll cover you - there's a decent chance the airline will cancel and cover you anyway, but not for other costs like accommodation.

    They'll also cover you if government doesn't advice not to travel, and you do travel, then you do catch it and have medical / quarantine related costs.

    That's in general, each policy will have different specifics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    By the time two weeks comes you’ll have as much chance of bringing it with you as bringing it back.

    Very true .
    ah ill play it day by day.i can cancel hotel for free right up to two days before im there and the flight was only 100 euro.ill take the hit on that if need be.
    Ill go though.unless the **** hits the fan altogether.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Mod: It has been suggested to merge this with the main Corona thread, but I think a dedicated thread about travel has merit. If it becomes too much like the main thread, I'll just merge the two.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    There is also a CoronaVirus travel thread in ...wait for it...the Travel forum. Seems more appropriate.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    2 percent death rate, ill take my chances and go on holiday, such a load of shìte over nothing


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