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Sean Gallagher awarded damages - ''tweetgate''

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    #62
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Nothing whatsoever was wrong with him. At least he had an opinion and experience in business. Has Higgins got an opinion on anything? Ireland elected the most boring person in Ireland to be it's President who doesn't seem to say anything.

    What do you reckon Gallagher would have said had he been elected?

    Sitting Presidents aren't allowed to comment on legislative issues.


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    #63
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    I've no problem with rte paying for this. Whatever it cost it was one of the best pieces of public expenditure in recent years if it helped keep that cretin out of the park.

    I for one have issue with RTE paying. RTE are not paying, its us.
    RTE annoy me in so many ways.
    Have you ever wondered why the RTE channels are the only channels in HD on Saorview?
    Its because RTE charges exorbitant fees to commercial stations for HD carriage on the network which they run. But RTE gets a free ride on the network because its our money.
    Just one of many things that peeve me about RTE.


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    #64
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    RTE should have been shut down after that. Blatant intention to skew the Presidential Election.

    And for all those saying so what or that they didn't like Gallagher, what happens when RTE tries to screw over your guy?


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    #65
    i71jskz5xu42pb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    I for one have issue with RTE paying. RTE are not paying, its us.

    Indeed, Ivan Yates made a good point start of his show yesterday that the settlement could be significant. Don't remember the exact numbers but he had the value of the job (7 years salary + pension but excluding the free room and board) at north of €2 million.
    If I were Gallagher's lawyers I'd be arguing that RTE cost him that €2m + the damage to his good name. And would probably settle at somewhere lower than that.

    Would everybody be happy if this guy got e.g. €1m of our money?

    There's a reason the settlement amount was not publicised, it'd embarrass RTE.


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    #66
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Clark Kind Grimace wrote: »
    Would everybody be happy if this guy got e.g. €1m of our money?

    I don't see why we'd be angry with him for getting money, it was the folks in RTE who engaged in this act. And none of them lost their jobs or indeed any disciplinary action. Maybe if they fired the guilty people, the savings from that could cover the settlement?


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    #67
    i71jskz5xu42pb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Has Higgins got an opinion on anything?

    You're joking, right? Higgins was probably one of the most vocal TDs in the Dail over the years. He has pretty strong opinions and was never shy to voice them.

    As others have said, the role prevents him from speaking out now as president.


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    #68
    i71jskz5xu42pb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    c_man wrote: »
    I don't see why we'd be angry with him for getting money, it was the folks in RTE who engaged in this act.

    I didn't say "angry with him" though, did I?
    c_man wrote: »
    And none of them lost their jobs or indeed any disciplinary action. Maybe if they fired the guilty people, the savings from that could cover the settlement?

    All good but unfortunately it's never going to happen.
    Which makes me angry.


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    #69
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,113 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Put the individual to one side. RTE in the guise of Pat Kenny, used an unverified source/tweet, and put the subject matter, in the public domain. That is the basis of good journalism thrown out the window. You check, high quality journalism, they would have at least two verifiable, if not multiple sources before running public with a claim.
    It was very poor judgement and poor journalism, both of the editorial staff and PK. That is why RTE has to apologise and pay out.

    The picking apart of any one or all of the candidates, is a separate matter entirely. Don't go down the Fox News/Trump route.


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    #70
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Clark Kind Grimace wrote: »
    I didn't say "angry with him" though, did I?

    Fair enough, my bad.


    I'm angry too.


    Let's go down to RTE and beat some people up.


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    #71
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Water John wrote: »
    Put the individual to one side. RTE in the guise of Pat Kenny, used an unverified source/tweet, and put the subject matter, in the public domain. That is the basis of good journalism thrown out the window. You check, high quality journalism, they would have at least two verifiable, if not multiple sources before running public with a claim.
    It was very poor judgement and poor journalism, both of the editorial staff and PK. That is why RTE has to apologise and pay out.

    The picking apart of any one or all of the candidates, is a separate matter entirely. Don't go down the Fox News/Trump route.
    Or CNN or MSNBC. Proper journalism doesn't exist anymore. It is not about being right, it is about being first and virtue signalling and agenda driven political hacks. Used to be a time when opinions got put at the door and facts only used during the news, not so much anymore.


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    #72
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Presume there's nowhere to watch the debate online now? Would love to watch it again.. It was a truly magical night.


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    #73
    Mr.Micro
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    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    RTE should have been shut down after that. Blatant intention to skew the Presidential Election.

    And for all those saying so what or that they didn't like Gallagher, what happens when RTE tries to screw over your guy?

    Best bit of money RTE ever spent, as it is a small price to pay to have kept the likes of Gallagher from being President. Has he ever done a days work, other than getting grants for this, that and the other. Now another handout.


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    #74
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    Best bit of money RTE ever spent, as it is a small price to pay to have kept the likes of Gallagher from being President. Has he ever done a days work, other than getting grants for this, that and the other. Now another handout.
    So you think any abuse of democracy is ok as long as you approve of the result? It's not up to national broadcaster to keep anyone out or in office with false information.

    You can dislike Gallagher but this kind of attitude is incredibly shortsighted and frankly dumb.


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    #75
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Still Ill wrote: »
    Presume there's nowhere to watch the debate online now? Would love to watch it again.. It was a truly magical night.



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    #76
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Interesting to read that prior to that live debate that only he & Michael D had not been part of some paper rumours/accusations.
    Then his name gets dragged through the coals when he was the favourite in the polls and Michael D was second- it most similar instances you would conclude that the main beneficiary is usually the perpetrator.


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    #77
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users Posts: 5,098 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    .

    I for one have issue with RTE paying. RTE are not paying, its us.
    RTE annoy me in so many ways.

    This.


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    #78
    NickNickleby
    Registered Users Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Watched the debate and he should have been the President. Much better than the hobbit or terrorist candidate.

    Accidentally 'liked' your post. Whoops!

    Anyway, it caught my eye. I voted for Sean Gallagher because having seen him speaking at public events I felt he was more inspirational than any of his fellow candidates. I also met him personally a couple of times and found him quite personable. I believe he would have been a good President.

    So, while our current President wasn't no 1 on my ballot paper, as President I feel he deserves the respect due to his office. So I'm disappointed that you choose to mock him for his physical stature.

    If Sean Gallagher runs again, I'll vote for him, unless a stronger candidate runs.

    Cheers


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    #79
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users Posts: 45,262 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    quickbeam wrote: »

    A Rabbit in headlights. Total spoofer.


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    #80
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    I think the political establishment realised Sean Gallagher was a credible candidate and used RTE to discredit him. The problem is in discrediting him RTE have been deemed to have smeared his character hence the award of damages. He has every right to damages if before the law his name was unfairly tarnished. We the taxpayer see our license fee used to settle a bill incurred by irresponsible broadcasting. We will most likely never know who was behind the derailing or how much it cost us financially. Shameful all around.


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    #81
    [Deleted User]
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    holyhead wrote: »
    I think the political establishment realised Sean Gallagher was a credible candidate and used RTE to discredit him. The problem is in discrediting him RTE have been deemed to have smeared his character hence the award of damages. He has every right to damages if before the law his name was unfairly tarnished. We the taxpayer see our license fee used to settle a bill incurred by irresponsible broadcasting. We will most likely never know who was behind the derailing or how much it cost us financially. Shameful all around.

    Gallagher WAS the political establishment. He was up to his neck with FF and tried to pull the wool over everyone's eyes by claiming to be an "independent" all of a sudden. And Jaysus, looking at this thread, it sure worked.


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    #82
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Sean Gallagher was the least idiotic on that stage or morally disgraceful. When you have a terrorist debating your ethics as Sean had towards him then you have to call into question the legitimacy of the debate to begin with.

    Every thread?

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    #83
    BinLiner2
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    I'd take McGuiness over gallagher


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    #84
    [Deleted User]
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    Sergio Georgini wrote: »
    Gallagher WAS the political establishment. He was up to his neck with FF and tried to pull the wool over everyone's eyes by claiming to be an "independent" all of a sudden. And Jaysus, looking at this thread, it sure worked.

    In a race that featured politicians like Mitchell, Norris and Higgins, he was hardly THE political establishment figure.


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    #85
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Who was the best candidate is neither here nor there.
    RTÉ took Gallagher out plain and simple.
    Frightening that they got away with it.


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    #86
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users Posts: 5,098 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    holyhead wrote: »
    We the taxpayer see our license fee used to settle a bill incurred by irresponsible broadcasting. We will most likely never know who was behind the derailing or how much it cost us financially. Shameful all around.

    It's a good point.
    Given the award is coming from public funding, shouldn't this be available under freedom of information ?
    And not knowing how it was able to happen in the first place doesn't give much reassurance that it will be avoided in future.

    Anyways, the story ends back where it all began - with Gallagher collecting a large cheque.


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    #87
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Deleted User wrote: »
    In a race that featured politicians like Mitchell, Norris and Higgins, he was hardly THE political establishment figure.

    Nobody said he was. Wrong emphasised word there.


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    #88
    dd972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Wouldn't minding banging his missus.


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    #89
    expectationlost
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    What exactly was so bad about him?

    At the time I thought somone like him might have been good for the role. Youngish man who had been succesful outside of the world of politics. Recently married and about to start a family. I felt that would have given off a good image and revitalized the office to some extent.
    he was a fianna failer


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    #90
    expectationlost
    Registered Users Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    that doc is called the naked election presidential password protected on vimeo http://www.loosehorse.ie/portfolio-items/the-naked-election/ :/


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    #91
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Sergio Georgini wrote: »
    Gallagher WAS the political establishment. He was up to his neck with FF and tried to pull the wool over everyone's eyes by claiming to be an "independent" all of a sudden. And Jaysus, looking at this thread, it sure worked.

    In a race that featured politicians like Mitchell, Norris and Higgins, he was hardly THE political establishment figure.

    And a terrorist.


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