Possible Cold Reload

Rebelbrowser · 30-01-2012 12:28pm

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Only in Leinster from the look of it Yan. I'll be safe enough in the Wesht until friday.

This is a somewhat parochial query but hopefully of general interest. In the current set up, can you get streamers in Waterford and Cork? I appreciate when the weather comes from the North East (like Dec 2010) you can't but if the source of cold is due east or, particularly South East, does this change things? In this regard whilst Waterford and Cork are on the south coast, the way the coast line is (running south west) there is no land due east of the south coastline. Due east is the sea, hence the query........

Sponge Bob · 30-01-2012 12:31pm

Streamers are snow 'picked up' off the sea surface so you lot need a SE or S wind for streamers.

Strictly called Ocean Effect Snow see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake-effect_snow

YanSno · 30-01-2012 12:34pm

looking at the charts now you should see some snow by the end of the week,if thats enough

munsterlegend · 30-01-2012 12:44pm

The latest from the UK Met Office:

Current alert level: Level 3 - Cold Weather Action in one or more regions of England
Issued at: Monday 30 January 2012 at 10:37
There is a 100% probability of severe cold weather between 1000 on Monday and 1000 on Friday in parts of England. This weather could increase the health risks to vulnerable patients and disrupt the delivery of services. Please refer to the national Cold Weather Plan and your Trust's emergency plan for appropriate preventive action.
Milder conditions are likely to arrive during Saturday and Saturday night, with temperatures likely to rise above threshold values in all regions.

and

UK Outlook for Saturday 4 Feb 2012 to Monday 13 Feb 2012:
Turning unsettled and less cold from the northwest during the weekend as a band of rain moves across the country. There is a risk of rain falling as snow on the leading edge and also falling on frozen surfaces giving a transient widespread ice risk. Heading into the first full of week of February though, there remains considerable uncertainty regarding the forecast with a risk of the colder easterly conditions returning at least across the east and south east. The most likely scenario is for further weather systems to push in from the west but stalling over the country giving an increasing risk of snow in central and eastern parts, especially over higher ground. Temperatures probably below normal in the east but near normal at times in the west.
Updated: 1113 on Mon 30 Jan 2012

and:

UK Outlook for Tuesday 14 Feb 2012 to Tuesday 28 Feb 2012:
Some cold weather looks likely during this period, with both daytime maximum and night-time minimum temperatures likely to be below or well below average at times. Rainfall amounts should be around average in northern areas, with some snow at times here. Further south rainfall is likely to be above average with some prolonged spells of rain possible, with also a risk of some significant falls of snow. Sunshine amounts will probably be around or slightly above average
Updated: 1136 on Mon 30 Jan 2012

Fully Established · 30-01-2012 12:56pm

Having just looked at the met eireann weather forecast they are not buying into this severe cold,Little change tomorrow. Cold and cloudy with spells of persistent rain, heavy at times especially early in the day, and an increasing chance of sleet or wet snow on higher ground. Top temperatures about 3 to 6 degrees, highest in the southwest of the province and also are warning against spot flooding what are they looking at thats been missed here.

whataboutnow · 30-01-2012 12:58pm

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=ukuk&MODELL=gfs&MODELLTYP=1&BASE=-&VAR=weas&HH=186&ZOOM=0&ARCHIV=0&WMO=&PERIOD=

only gives localized snow cover in ireland till the weekend when the whole country is blanketed,quite a thickle chart to be taken seriously tho

also interesting developments http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/reports?ARCHIV=0&LANG=en&JJ=2012&MM=01&TT=30&MENU=211&FILE=scratchbox_2529&DAY=029

Rebelbrowser · 30-01-2012 12:59pm

Fully Established wrote: »

Having just looked at the met eireann weather forecast they are not buying into this severe cold,Little change tomorrow. Cold and cloudy with spells of persistent rain, heavy at times especially early in the day, and an increasing chance of sleet or wet snow on higher ground. Top temperatures about 3 to 6 degrees, highest in the southwest of the province and also are warning against spot flooding what are they looking at thats been missed here.

ME just seem to parrot whatever the latest ECM tells them. If that upgrades this evening, so will their outlook. You don't get the sense there is any human input in their forecasts beyond turning the ECM output into words.

srocliffe · 30-01-2012 1:02pm

munsterlegend wrote: »

The latest from the UK Met Office:

Current alert level: Level 3 - Cold Weather Action in one or more regions of England
Issued at: Monday 30 January 2012 at 10:37
There is a 100% probability of severe cold weather between 1000 on Monday and 1000 on Friday in parts of England.

Wow I know this is a UK forecast, but they are not leaving any margin for error there :-)

Sponge Bob · 30-01-2012 1:17pm

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

ME just seem to parrot whatever the latest ECM tells them. If that upgrades this evening, so will their outlook.

Unfair they do more than that.

pauldry · 30-01-2012 1:26pm

does that mean parts of england will be mild

id be of the opinion that this cold weather will last for the week with the east seeing any snow then it could get extremely mild next week (this is as of today IMO but think forecasts will be changing)

munsterlegend · 30-01-2012 1:29pm

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Unfair they do more than that.

I think in their early morning forecast they do seem to just copy the ECM. It can then change during the day and provide more detail..just the way i see it anyway.

lets hope for upgrades after the next set of runs..

munsterlegend · 30-01-2012 1:34pm

What I do find strange is the the UK Met Office have no severe weather warnings out as yet for the UK..maybe it's being updated.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html

opr · 30-01-2012 1:35pm

munsterlegend wrote: »

What I do find strange is the the UK Met Office have no severe weather warnings out as yet for the UK..maybe it's being updated.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html

They have a cold weather warning - http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/coldweatheralert/

Opr

Sponge Bob · 30-01-2012 1:40pm

munsterlegend wrote: »

I think in their early morning forecast they do seem to just copy the ECM.just the way i see it anyway.

That is fairer than Rebelbrowsers comment a short while back. Maybe more junior staff do the nights.

Wild Bill · 30-01-2012 1:44pm

And still it rains......36 hours and counting......

Rebelbrowser · 30-01-2012 1:49pm

Sponge Bob wrote: »

That is fairer than Rebelbrowsers comment a short while back. Maybe more junior staff do the nights.

That's probably a fairer observation alright. I generally stick up for ME with the attacks they receive, this is just one issue that slightly irks me. Generally though I think they do a good job on, undoubtedly, scarce resources.

munsterlegend · 30-01-2012 1:58pm

munsterlegend wrote: »

What I do find strange is the the UK Met Office have no severe weather warnings out as yet for the UK..maybe it's being updated.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html[/QUOTE]

Updated now but no mention of any snow accumulations..

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html

Wild Bill · 30-01-2012 2:06pm

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Generally though I think they do a good job on, undoubtedly, scarce resources.

They are certainly more than holding their own with boards.ie this "winter".

Tom Cruises Left Nut · 30-01-2012 2:06pm

Some snow showing up south of Dub ??

dfx- · 30-01-2012 2:10pm

Wild Bill wrote: »

And still it rains......36 hours and counting......

Embrace the rain:)

DOCARCH · 30-01-2012 2:12pm

t|nt|n wrote: »

Some snow showing up south of Dub ??

I'm sure it must be snowing on the higher parts of the Dublin and Wicklow Mountains.

3.7c with a DP of 2.8c here atm, so I'm sure a couple of degrees colder over the mountains.

esposito · 30-01-2012 2:13pm

munsterlegend wrote: »

munsterlegend wrote: »

What I do find strange is the the UK Met Office have no severe weather warnings out as yet for the UK..maybe it's being updated.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html[/QUOTE]

Updated now but no mention of any snow accumulations..

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html

Isn't it supposed to be mainly dry but very cold with the odd snow flurry for the next 4/5 days? Maybe that's why there's no warnings for snow accumulations. Weekend could be a different story.

Tom Cruises Left Nut · 30-01-2012 2:16pm

DOCARCH wrote: »

I'm sure it must be snowing on the higher parts of the Dublin and Wicklow Mountains.

3.7c with a DP of 2.8c here atm, so I'm sure a couple of degrees colder over the mountains.

This is where it is showing up:

Villain · 30-01-2012 2:19pm

t|nt|n wrote: »

Some snow showing up south of Dub ??

That would be the Wicklow Mountains

LoadofCROC · 30-01-2012 2:31pm

jeez..Nuala was just full of good news :mad:

Sponge Bob · 30-01-2012 2:33pm

Ireland. December 29th 2010. Image Captured by the MODIS instrument.

Streamers on Right.

stevenf17 · 30-01-2012 2:39pm

Yessss!! Hopefully I'll be able to do more of this, this year. The views were bloody amazing!

30-01-2012 2:46pm

stevenf17 wrote: »

Yessss!! Hopefully I'll be able to do more of this, this year. The views were bloody amazing!

jesus, that was beautiful. Well done

would love to be up there in that amount of snow, camping LOL

cyclops999 · 30-01-2012 2:50pm

Any idea of snow potential for Athlone / Roscommon area.

LoadofCROC · 30-01-2012 2:52pm

stevenf17 wrote: »

Yessss!! Hopefully I'll be able to do more of this, this year. The views were bloody amazing!

now thats the closest thing to heaven ...WOW!

:D

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