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Concrete Vs Plastic Water Troughs

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  • #32
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Gravelly wrote: »
    It floats half in and half out if you know what I mean. When the water freezes it compresses the ball rather than bursting the trough.

    Wouldn't it make more sense to remove the drain plug during winter as you will have to drain the stagnant water after the winter anyway?

    Perhaps it would, but in my entire life, I've never seen any farmer around here drain one.


  • #33
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Perhaps it would, but in my entire life, I've never seen any farmer around here drain one.

    Well if you're milking cows you'll be doing it and during the summer as well. Algae in the trough wouldn't be long hitting milk yield.


  • #34
    The part time boy
    Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    Moved a trough yesterday . Tank overfiling as per norm . Went to bend the ball cock to stop it . Bloody thing snapped . And jfc make it so easy to change the ball cock arm .

    F**king jfc troughs


  • #35
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Gravelly wrote: »
    Perhaps it would, but in my entire life, I've never seen any farmer around here drain one.

    Well if you're milking cows you'll be doing it and during the summer as well. Algae in the trough wouldn't be long hitting milk yield.
    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Gravelly wrote: »
    Perhaps it would, but in my entire life, I've never seen any farmer around here drain one.

    Well if you're milking cows you'll be doing it and during the summer as well. Algae in the trough wouldn't be long hitting milk yield.

    Mentioned that to my neighbour who milks a large herd. He threw his eyes up to heaven. Not sure what that means.


  • #36
    Cattlepen
    Registered Users Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    Troughs forever a problem. Gave a so called "expert " a big job doing the water system in a greenfield site. Promised me no problems with electro fusion joints etc but I had plenty of leaks and freezing where pipe crossed ditches. On another farm I just ran inch hg along the paddock fences with strategic placed quick attach couplings. I use a smallish sized Jfc plastic trough with a long hose and move it when the cattle move paddock. Very handy, easy to find leaks and you can place trough in different place every time to prevent cattle making a bare patch


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  • #37
    gctest50
    Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Tyre and a pile of concrete ?

    http://www.lilybrookherefords.com/watertrough.htm



    http://extension.missouri.edu/adair/documents/Livestock/Tire%20Tank%203.pdf


  • #38
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Mentioned that to my neighbour who milks a large herd. He threw his eyes up to heaven. Not sure what that means.

    It means your neighbour is as ignorant as you are.


  • #39
    jimini0
    Registered Users Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭jimini0


    So concrete ones are the best. I have to replace a few here and add one or two more.
    Where is the best place in the west to buy them? Oharas have them but don't supply ballcock or fittings. They look a good solid one very heavy.


  • #40
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    The part time boy wrote: »
    Moved a trough yesterday . Tank overfiling as per norm . Went to bend the ball cock to stop it . Bloody thing snapped . And jfc make it so easy to change the ball cock arm .

    F**king jfc troughs

    You are just too strong.:D

    They need to be heated before bending them.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #41
    The part time boy
    Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    blue5000 wrote: »
    The part time boy wrote: »
    Moved a trough yesterday . Tank overfiling as per norm . Went to bend the ball cock to stop it . Bloody thing snapped . And jfc make it so easy to change the ball cock arm .

    F**king jfc troughs

    You are just too strong.:D

    They need to be heated before bending them.

    Too strong or too lazy lol ..no way was I taking it off and bringing into yard to heat it lol


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  • #42
    memorystick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭memorystick


    nhg wrote: »
    Concrete it is so...

    Recommendations on best brands greatly appreciated as we have 5 to buy (thinking along the lines of 140 gallon Top Fill with emptying bung)

    Thinking of the same. How much did you pay? I've about 8 to buy.


  • #43
    nhg
    Registered Users Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭nhg


    memorystick wrote: »
    Thinking of the same. How much did you pay? I've about 8 to buy.

    Paid €180 each for 150 gallon top fill Spillane Concrete Tanks this didn't include the ballcock etc....


  • #44
    memorystick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Would those high powered cigarette lighters generate enough heat to bend the brass arm? Teemore water trough in shed always dribbling.


  • #45
    Wildsurfer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    A high powered cigarette lighter? What kind of cigarettes are you lighting! You can pick up a small blowtorch with gas canister for small money and always handy to have.


  • #46
    memorystick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭memorystick


    What’s lads opinions on putting concrete bases underneath the troughs?


  • #47
    49801
    Registered Users Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    memorystick wrote: »
    What’s lads opinions on putting concrete bases underneath the troughs?

    That’s what I did with plastic troughs already bought and installed when I realized error of buying plastic ones.

    For concrete troughs a flat even base is fine. Think real trick when installing is to get a little fall towards drain holes.


  • #48
    anfieldrd
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭anfieldrd


    What size trough would be sufficient for 100 cow herd? What size pipe are lads using?


  • #49
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    anfieldrd wrote: »
    What size trough would be sufficient for 100 cow herd? What size pipe are lads using?

    Min 180 gallon and 3/4 inch piping,fast flow ball cock
    Pressure at pump set to at least 50 bar


  • #50
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Min 180 gallon and 3/4 inch piping,fast flow ball cock
    Pressure at pump set to at least 50 bar

    Maybe 50psi?


  • #51
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Yeah ,thought that's what I wrote :p


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  • #52
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,141 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    anfieldrd wrote: »
    What size trough would be sufficient for 100 cow herd? What size pipe are lads using?

    Min 180 gallon and 3/4 inch piping,fast flow ball cock
    Pressure at pump set to at least 50 bar

    It would depend on the farm as well. If it was a long narrow farm with some land higher than the water source it might need 1.25 inch for the start of the piping and all 3/4 inch from there on.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #53
    I says
    Registered Users Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭I says


    Anyone selling them in the midlands the LOW (Laois,Offaly,Westmeath)counties specifically. Concrete ones


  • #54
    foxy farmer
    Registered Users Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    Lad not to far from me rearing bulls. Put down a few scrapped cattle slats around the troughs. Saves the ground around the troughs in wet weather and stops bulls rooting in the dry weather.


  • #55
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I says wrote: »
    Anyone selling them in the midlands the LOW (Laois,Offaly,Westmeath)counties specifically. Concrete ones

    Liffeys or Spillanes

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #56
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,141 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Liffeys or Spillanes

    You would have to have Banaghers under bulls. As well did he put mats on them. You need mats under bulls

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #57
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    You would have to have Banaghers under bulls. As well did he put mats on them. You need mats under bulls

    I was talking about concrete water troughs Bass;) not slats. There's been a few disappointed lads around here lately with Banagher slats letting them down, pun intended.:(

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #58
    mr.stonewall
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Liffeys or Spillanes

    +1 for Spillane's. Fine trough


  • #59
    memorystick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭memorystick


    What would be the best size for 80 bullocks max in the one paddock? Concrete and might put on concrete base as ground can be challenging and sticky. Thanks


  • #60
    I says
    Registered Users Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭I says


    memorystick wrote: »
    What would be the best size for 80 bullocks max in the one paddock? Concrete and might put on concrete base as ground can be challenging and sticky. Thanks

    150gls from spillanes around 220€


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