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  • #92
    davidjtaylor
    Registered Users Posts: 755 ✭✭✭davidjtaylor


    davidjtaylor wrote: »
    Believing other animal species exist for our use is where part of the problem lies.
    Donald Trump wrote: »
    I am not sure whether you mean as a concept, or specific animals.

    As a concept. Holding a belief that another animal (and we are animals too) is put here for our exploitation is a major part of the problem.


  • #93
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,946 ✭✭✭emaherx


    davidjtaylor wrote: »
    As a concept. Holding a belief that another animal (and we are animals too) is put here for our exploitation is a major part of the problem.

    Without any belief system at all that's exactly what just about every other animal does, they exploit other species to exist.


  • #94
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    davidjtaylor wrote: »
    As a concept. Holding a belief that another animal (and we are animals too) is put here for our exploitation is a major part of the problem.

    Would you argue then that no animal"is put here for "the exploitation" of any other animal?

    Because - that's where that piece that logic goes to...

    The majority of people do not hold the opinion that any animal was 'put there' by someone for 'exploitation. Even though that is often implied by some - it remains that is little more than a malapropism of what is written in the bible. Funnily enough few people take that literally anymore.

    The facts are that evolution has resulted in a complex food web, where primary producers such as plants are consumed by herbivores and so on until we get to animals which in turn consume herbivores etc as part of their diet. All this is part of the recycling of energy in ecology and the dynamics of entropy.

    And yes humans are animals. We are now the dominant animals and have learned to farm animals that we once used to hunt. Farming allows us do this in a way which means we no longer have to chase animals over cliffs with spears etc. Rather animals are reared, fed and protected from predation and diseases that would face in the wild. They are killed yes - under highly controlled and regulated conditions. Some humans choose not to eat meat and that's fine - others do - thats how it is.
    "All organisms, alive or dead, are potential sources of food for other organisms"

    https://books.google.ie/books?id=iKvNBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA158&lpg=PA158&dq=entropy+recycling+energy+animals&source=bl&ots=zYeA2PwEQv&sig=ACfU3U1sUrCVgx3Ufz6hw0TC1DCI-3s9ZQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSgI-IidLhAhV4ShUIHVH7ALsQ6AEwG3oECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=entropy &f=false


  • #95
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,008 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    davidjtaylor wrote: »
    As a concept. Holding a belief that another animal (and we are animals too) is put here for our exploitation is a major part of the problem.




    As I said, I think that that is a "biblical" concept that very few people would subscribe to.


    I think that most people would believe that we evolved to be able to use them to our advantage, not that they were "put" here for us


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