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How was your first day at school?

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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A child of four years encounters strange places all the time. They have been almost nowhere.

    There has to be something else, perhaps the exchange of parental control from the parent to a stranger -- whatever it is there is something, for some children, that makes the first day of school very distressing.

    That's unnecessary, as most of us know who liked school. It seems avoidable via properly socialising a child to new experiences, with adults as well as with other children.

    I just cannot get my head around the idea that a child would be reduced to tears and even panic on what should be one of the most exciting days of their lives. It is not normal.


    I don't know. I guess parents can prepare a child as best they can but it's still possible that on the day a combination of strange faces and separation and anticipation and a million other things on top of an individual childs disposition will conspire to make them anxious.

    I'm sure teachers will have seen tears often enough on first days to consider it within the normal range of behaviours and reactions.

    Sometimes you can do everything right and things still don't work out, especially when it comes down to how an individual feels on a particular day on top of all the other variables. I think most parents do their best to prepare their kids, it doesn't mean they've failed them.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Nearly 40 years since I started kindergarten in primary school. September 1979. Four and a half years of age.

    A very strange environment. Not wanting my mummy to go. Being greeted by the teacher. Hexagonal low tables with brightly colored tops. Having great difficulty drawing the number 4. Being taught by the teacher, Miss Larkin, how to draw the letter “e” properly.

    Having a going home sweet.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Peregrine wrote: »
    I started school more than a month after everyone else. That was tricky. I was 3 years and 9 months old. Terribly early age to be going to school, I think. I took to the learning side very well, the socialising not so much.

    I'm told that I cried a lot on the first day and that I was fine after that. I can't say I remember much. A memory that I have of crying outside the classroom is in the kindergarten building of the school that was built several years after I started so I don't exactly trust those 'memories'.

    You were just a toddler, really. :(


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Candie wrote: »
    I don't know. I guess parents can prepare a child as best they can but it's still possible that on the day a combination of strange faces and separation and anticipation and a million other things on top of an individual childs disposition will conspire to make them anxious.

    I'm sure teachers will have seen tears often enough on first days to consider it within the normal range of behaviours and reactions.

    Sometimes you can do everything right and things still don't work out, especially when it comes down to how an individual feels on a particular day on top of all the other variables. I think most parents do their best to prepare their kids, it doesn't mean they've failed them.

    Yeah, I see your point, but at all other stages of a child's development, we take their panic and fear quite seriously.

    I'm sure that you also have friends who recount their first day of school as a pretty scary experience.

    Of course we're never going to eradicate that completely, but that's an impossible standard to meet, anyway. Nevertheless, we can probably do better. It shouldn't be so commonplace for a child to dread her education.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think kids shouldn't be sent to school so young. There'd be fewer unsettled kids if they started at six or seven like in the Scandi countries. A few hours in the mornings of structured play is as formal as it should be before then.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    They're starting older lately anyway going by the parenting posts. More 5-6


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    They're starting older lately anyway going by the parenting posts. More 5-6
    We're not planning to send our one to school until she's 5 and a half. That would have been seen as a little bit irresponsible when I was a kid.


    The benefit of later school attendance is completely counter-intuitive, isn't it. One would think that the earlier à child enters formal education, the brighter they'll be at the end. All the best evidence comprehensively refutes that.

    Goes to show, sometimes our preconceptions turn out to be entirely baseless. Who'd have thunk!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,279 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I don't think I have any genuine memories of my first day. I've have images but I think they are contrived from hearing stories at home years later. It was 1948, so I have an excuse for it not being foremost in my mind.

    I'm a fair bit after your time but I reckon all my memories from that far back have been lost and reimagined so many times that they bear no relation to reality. I have childhood memories of events years apart that occupy the same weekend in my mind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭the14thwarrior


    I remember my new uniform and big yellow badge.
    i was not yet 4. My excitement turned to stress. being told to take me home
    i remember mam bringing me home and saying to dad "they won't take her" "they won't take her" (too young I'm guessing). My mother was 9 months pregnant. God love her
    my dad taking me and sitting me beside him, after my mother took off my uniform, and him giving me milk and biscuits.

    at least they took me the following year...........


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    We're not planning to send our one to school until she's 5 and a half. That would have been seen as a little bit irresponsible when I was a kid.


    The benefit of later school attendance is completely counter-intuitive, isn't it. One would think that the earlier hild enters formal education, the brighter they'll be at the end. All the best evidence comprehensively refutes that.

    Goes to show, sometimes our preconceptions turn out to be entirely baseless. Who'd have thunk!

    Yeah I dont know. I was on the younger side and grand. I think the main thing is to see what suits the child


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    I was 3 and started about a month from the end of term - This meant I started officially again in the September and was the bravest child in babies - I remember lots of other children crying and trying to console some. We were all only little but I remember both first days remarkably clearly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭KatW4


    I cried on my first day. I was a crier anyway. I remember having a red and green stripey school bag with two buckles. There was some TV character on it but I don't remember. My teacher was lovely. I loved Primary School, I knew as soon as I started that I wanted to be a teacher.

    Now I'm the teacher and I get nervous on the first day. You never know what the year is going to throw at you. I always feel so sorry for the little ones coming in, they get so upset. Some of the parents cry too!


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Vita nova


    It was an embarrassing day for me; I tried to use the differential rather than the integral of a function to calculate the area under a curve... how the other children laughed and then I was put in the corner and made wear the dunce's cap. Haven't made that mistake since.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think the fact that I was allowed to wear that poodle mask gave me a feeling of security in that I could observe the facial language if others without giving anything away myself. I was integrating st my own pace and the school was fine with that. I think a few others wore masks too, and of course we took them off as soon as we felt comfortable.

    As a very young only child I had been brought to interesting environments which greatly stimulated my imagination. One place was the control tower of Dublin Airport in the very early 60s where my parents’ Friend, Tom Donovsn, was chief controller. I was shown the planes on the radar and watching them coming in. I had all the aircraft names off, Viscounts, Super Constellations, Fokkers etc. my father showed me how wings produce lift by holding a spoon in the tap stream. I ended up learning to fly myself as soon as I started earning.

    My mother had taught me to read, had made me a teddy bear that got pregnant with a miniature best. She taught me all the colours, how to mix them to make any colour I wanted. My father had a big map of the world in his home office, as he worked as Irish agent for British engineering firms. He would get me to names all the countries on the map and pointed through the wall in the direction of America. From an early age I was well orientated in the physical world and used to imagine myself walking or swimming to various foreign countries.

    I was really well prepared for school, and eager for a bit of “independence” from my parents. I adored strangers, especially tricking them. One of my specialities was to amuse myself during my mother’s visits to wholesalers in town to supply her home hat making business-I would go to the other end of the shop, or another floor, and pretend I was a “foreign” lost kid, and start speaking to people in my own made-up gibberish language. People were always trying to work out what country I came from. At one time I approached a shop assistant (speaking English) and told her I was lost. I absolutely loved the consternation I had caused and hearing my name called out on tannoy. Then when my mother came over to claim me I declared “that’s not my mammy, I don’t know her, I’m not going with her”. The awkwardness of it all amused me thoroughly, and sure my mother knew right well I was a chip off her own mischievous block!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,907 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    I'm gonna call bs. There is no way a person 4 or 5 thinks like that at that time. At that age your biggest concerns are if other children will accept you and your parents will come to collect you, if you can do the work you're given. You're not sitting back and critiquing the teachers.

    Hey, don’t hold me to your intellectual limits.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    phutyle wrote: »
    Hey, don’t hold me to your intellectual limits.

    What do my "intellectual limits" have to do with it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    I remember my friend crying and I was comforting her and took her by the hand to go play. I turned and waved at my mam and got on with it.

    Our teacher was so nice that day. Her sons who were about 10 and 12 were "helping" her and had those big jars of cola cubes and pear drops and we were allowed one of each.

    Boy did things change. That teacher was a psychotic bitch. I was a chatterbox and if I was caught talking at 9 am, my name was put on the board in a corner and you knew that about half an hour before home time, punishment was coming.

    That punishment was getting slapped on the hands with a thick ruler. I can still see the ruler. It was beige kinda colour with beautiful red deer on it. It had a metal edge and boy did it hurt. I think the torture of knowing all day that you were getting it was worse though. Three years of that torture and am still a chatty Cathy. This was late 70's.

    As for starting school too young, I think it depends on the child. My eldest started on the 8th of October, the day after his 4th birthday because he was ready and bored at playschool. My youngest turned 5 a few weeks after he started because he just wasn't ready. I think I had babbied him more and had been pushing the elder one.

    Eldest did really well throughout school so was never an issue. He is also a well rounded, mature young adult now so tis grand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    My first day at school? I was 3 years old and kept following my big brother. Learned to read then..

    That was way back, during World War 2..


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,805 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Traumatic, I still have vague memories of it, then again, most journeys outside the home were traumatic those days


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I don't recall too much about Junior Infants, just the lunchbox and lots of parents around but that could have been any day of the first week.

    I do remember the first day of Secondary School where a friend of mine for some reason decided this wasn't for him and ran out the door at 9:01am. I can still see the top of his head running past the window and a teacher and principal sprinting after him as he was heading for the gate and the main road. He'd been fine from JI to 1st Class and came back in the next day and sat normally without a care in the world.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    i was roaring crying when the mother left but i soon copped myself on as it was clear that to show weakness to the animals in there would be a mistake


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭killanena


    I barely remember my first day on primary school. My mam tells me that I asked why was that boy so dirty. He was from Africa.. Lol first time seeing a coloured person I think.

    Secondary school, a large portion of my class went to primary with me so we just all stuck together and went to town buying sweets with our lunch money. We got our lockers that day and it didn't take us long to figure out that there was only 6 different types of keys. So your key could open some of the other lockers too.. Lol. They finally replaced those lockers when I was in third year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭SVI40


    1969, distinctly remember one of the kids, we were 4, crying because his mother was leaving, and one of the nuns holding him by the arm, while she smacked his arse to get him to stop crying.

    Pretty much the norm back in those days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,378 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    razorblunt wrote: »
    He'd been fine from JI to 1st Class and came back in the next day and sat normally without a care in the world.

    Did he skip 2nd to 6th class???


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,354 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Some of the local secondary schools are back this week.
    My first day of junior infants was in the mid 1990's!
    I just remember lot's of people's parents being around and meeting people from play school.
    I also remember having a bag/lunch box/etc which was all new to me.
    I had a terrible habit of walking in the door and dropping everything and sitting down. I was all over the place for those two years.
    When I started first class I went to the CBS and I was delighted I was all grown up going to big school and I liked my teacher. I really settled down.
    Secondary was fine. I wasn't really pushed about the whole thing. Having loads of new subjects/teachers/junior cert/etc didn't really bother me. I was just happy we could go down town for lunch!


    How was your first day at school?
    Seemingly I ran after Mammy and told the teacher to fcuk off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭honeybear


    cjmc wrote: »
    Seemingly I ran after Mammy and told the teacher to fcuk off.

    I hope the kiddies don’t do that to me next week!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I remember my mum leaving me at the school gate and watching me until I went inside. I looked out the window and saw her still there for a couple of minutes and then she walked off. I was a little anxious as the school was a bus ride away from home and wasn't sure how I could get home if I had to. Got chatting to the guy in the next seat and can still remember the conversation. He was worried because his school tie was all fecked up and I was worried because my laces had come undone. He knew how to tie laces, I knew how to put on a tie so we exchanged this secret info. :D I just put the down phone after a call from him as he's still my friend today.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    I genuinely thought I only had to do one day, and that was schooling done forever. When I found out I had to go back in again the next day, I asked to go to the toilet and ran home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Why?

    It's a little bit disconcerting that many people (not everyone, but a lot of people) seem to have negative memories of their first day in a place of education. If a child is frightened and crying going to school, something, somewhere has gone terribly wrong.
    Times were different. I bet most people posting here didn't go to playschool. I know when I went to primary, there were only one or two who had. Going to school was the first time away from Mammy and some kids did get anxious and cry. It didn't cause long term harm though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    Times were different. I bet most people posting here didn't go to playschool. I know when I went to primary, there were only one or two who had. Going to school was the first time away from Mammy and some kids did get anxious and cry. It didn't cause long term harm though.

    Nothing to do with different times. Young children cry all the time. If they're crying every day you might have a problem. I've no specific memory of the first day but I am fairly sure I didn't cry and others did, even though I had never gone to playschool while they did.

    It's normal and I can't help but feel the comment "something, somewhere has gone terribly wrong." regarding this thread is just a hysterical bit of rhetoric.


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