Ni-Oh (PS4)

Zero-Cool · 21-01-2017 11:18pm

What level were you fighting her? In level 6, see graves of level 12 and 13 players around so dunno if I'm under levelled. My last couple of times, I've noticed she misses me a lot when I stick to her alright but she can almost one shot so can be deadly.

Is the demo finished when you beat her?

heebusjeebus · 22-01-2017 12:08am

Zero-Cool wrote: »

What level were you fighting her? In level 6, see graves of level 12 and 13 players around so dunno if I'm under levelled. My last couple of times, I've noticed she misses me a lot when I stick to her alright but she can almost one shot so can be deadly.

Is the demo finished when you beat her?

Could have been level 15 I think.
There is a NG version of the mission called Twilight mode. There is also a mission where you take on some lad 1 V 1. That is brutal!
I'm going to try and finish the Twilight mission tomorrow.

Evade · 22-01-2017 12:09am

Is there another bonus for playing this version?

heebusjeebus · 22-01-2017 12:33am

Same items as the last demo I believe.

Evade · 22-01-2017 12:36am

I'll wait for the full game then.

YouSavedMyLife · 22-01-2017 5:36am

Nah there is one new item in this demo. You gotta clear the mission “Thoughts of the Other Side" to get the Ogress Mask

Evade · 22-01-2017 10:19pm

I'm doing a bit of grinding before the first boss by fighting bloody grave phantoms. I beat a level 28 one, I was around level 12, and it drops a sword that does over 100 point more damage than my current best. I can see this being a handy way to get gear in the release version.

Also, any tips for the boss?

ZeitgeistGlee · 23-01-2017 12:30am

Evade wrote: »

Also, any tips for the boss?

I beat her on both regular (lvl 13) and nightmare (level 28) so my advice would be:

Stay close to her, behind as much as possible, stick with a stance that allows you to manage your stamina/ki (make you're you're replenishing and purifying those corrupted areas) so you can dodge effectively. Her attack patterns are pretty obvious and easy to dodge. If you're really having trouble with stamina chug a sacred water during the fight.

I've heard an axe/hammer in heavy stance breaks her very quickly (which would fit with previous bosses) tho I stuck to a medium-stance single katana. Watch your stamina and be patient are IMO the most important tips for her.

If you think you're underlevelled/undergeared farm the revenants a bit. They're a good source of drops. Also make sure you're at max familiarity with your weapon before the fight (this is one people miss AFAICS). Sticking in "green" weight rating (under 70% IIRC) isn't a bad idea either.

Oh, if you're not going to spec for Spirit, I'd also always stick with the bull summon for his extra 200 Life/Health.

Evade · 23-01-2017 12:35am

Just did it about two minutes before you posted.

Rob2D · 23-01-2017 12:47am

I beat her with mid sword stance as well.

If you get her to the point where her stamina is gone you can just do 3 slashes - R1 - 3 slashes - R1 - 3 slashes - R1 and completely stun lock her.

ZeitgeistGlee · 23-01-2017 12:47am

No worries, congrats on the kill. Tips stand for the next mission, he's a real doozy so level as much as you can so you don't lose your amrita.

Evade · 23-01-2017 3:20am

The demo timed out in the middle of the next mission.

heebusjeebus · 23-01-2017 9:14am

I struggled with the twilight mission. Made a suicide run to the shrine above the little huts but every time i spawned out of it, i was enveloped by 3 or 4 mad baxtards!
Enjoyed it overall though. Was so much tougher that Souls but I think it was down to the control scheme. It's not as intuitive as Souls and more dexterity is required to balance blocking, dodging & ki re-charging.
I'll wait on reviews and impressions of the main game before buying it though. I still have The Last Guardian to finish.

Rob2D · 23-01-2017 11:18am

This game is more character action than souls IMO. It's going to require a lot more from people to do well. Souls is sort of happy go lucky compared to this.

Zero-Cool · 23-01-2017 1:10pm

I think the demo is after putting me off getting this day 1. I'll see what my game list in Feb is like and decide then but during the demo, even though it was good, I kind of just wanted to turn it off and play Dark Souls 3 DLC which I'm in the middle of. I don't like the stamina R1 regen mechanic as I either want to block or evade after a few hits. I read there is a skill that does a Ki Pulse when you evade after attacks to regain the stamina but I couldn't see it on the skill list. This would sway my decision big time as I'd much prefer to focus on attacking and dodging. The setting is cool but there was just something missing from the whole thing.

ZeitgeistGlee · 24-01-2017 9:39pm

I think coming from DaS3, Nioh is a lot more punishing of poor stamina management (it's more like DaS and DaS2 in that regard). You can't just barrage an enemy and then jump back with the last bit of your stamina bar and still roll 3/4 times out of the way of any return fire. Personally I'm not a fan of how lenient DaS3 was with stamina usage (it earned the name Roll Souls 3 honestly) and Nioh is a bit more challenging for forcing you to be efficient/thoughtful.

The skill you've read about lets you ki-pulse while dodging but you still have to get your R1 press in at the right time (and you have to unlock it for each style).

Xenji · 31-01-2017 4:11pm

Review embargo is up on Thursday, the game size will be 40GB.

heebusjeebus · 02-02-2017 10:26am

Some good reviews. I've read the eurogamer one. Mainy positive but they've strung out some sections.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-02-02-nioh-review_4

OpenCritic:
http://www.opencritic.com/game/3539/nioh?tab=1

Xenji · 02-02-2017 4:25pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

Some good reviews. I've read the eurogamer one. Mainy positive but they've strung out some sections.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-02-02-nioh-review_4

OpenCritic:
http://www.opencritic.com/game/3539/nioh?tab=1

Seems to be quite positive across the board, not a bad review so far, looking forward to playing it next week.

bigphil2 · 03-02-2017 12:37pm

10/10 from Jim "****ing" Sterling,Son

http://www.thejimquisition.com/nioh-review/

heebusjeebus · 03-02-2017 12:41pm

Polygon need more time to finish it. Poor babies!

http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/2/14478898/nioh-review-polygon-where-is-ps4-playstation-4-sony-team-ninja

YouSavedMyLife · 03-02-2017 2:02pm

bigphil2 wrote: »

10/10 from Jim "****ing" Sterling,Son

http://www.thejimquisition.com/nioh-review/

The absolute madman

SeantheMan · 06-02-2017 1:24am

Did the game change the guys nationality to Irish ? He's Irish in the game according to Jim, but historically he was English.

Evade · 06-02-2017 4:43am

SeantheMan wrote: »

Did the game change the guys nationality to Irish ? He's Irish in the game according to Jim, but historically he was English.

That probably explains why the boss in the second demo speaks Irish.

heebusjeebus · 06-02-2017 9:04am

I read somewhere that the creators said that the Irish are more mystical (than the English I assume) so would be a better fit for the storyline.

DarC_Kn1ght · 06-02-2017 6:07pm

ZeitgeistGlee · 06-02-2017 11:54pm

heebusjeebus wrote: »

I read somewhere that the creators said that the Irish are more mystical (than the English I assume) so would be a better fit for the storyline.

AiddonValentine (EN): Why did you decide to change William's ancestry from English to Irish?

Yosuke Hayashi: "We understand that the Irish have a culture of spirits and one of the premises behind William’s character is his ability to see yokai/ spiritual characters so that’s why we made him Irish"

A nice sentiment alright.

Gunmonkey · 07-02-2017 12:35am

Its kinda sad that Japan seems to pump out more media featuring Celtic mythology than we do. Only really payed attention to Nioh after hearing the E3 trailer was As Gaeilge.

Still undecided on picking this up though, liked the first demo but the Last Chance really soured me, dunno why but it felt far clunkier and awkward than it did before. Maybe I played other games and never dropped back into the rythem of Niohs combat.

ziggyman17 · 07-02-2017 7:17am

Thought this was out today....

heebusjeebus · 07-02-2017 9:21am

ziggyman17 wrote: »

Thought this was out today....

EU release date is tomorrow (or midnight tonight). It's released today in the states.

Ni-Oh (PS4)

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